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Tue Jan-26-10 04:48 AM
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2. Back to leftwing vs. rightwing, why do you think it is that most US congressional democrats vote pro-Israel, are against Goldstone, etc.? Is Obama a "rightwinger" for failing to meet your expectations regarding I/P? Am I "rightwing" for having confidence in the vast majority of liberal democratic politicos here in the USA on matters regarding Israel - and if so, how do you figure?
3. Please explain to me what is leftwing about "pro-Palestinian" people who don't care how Palestinians in Gaza live under Hamas management (women's issues, no freedom of speech, Hamas use of child combatants and shields, sharia law, antisemitic brainwashing, incitement to kill, celebrating the murder of Jews)? All of that Hamas behavior is extreme RW religious behavior, so why is it that "leftwing" types such as yourself cannot be bothered to do or say anything about what Hamas is doing to destroy the Gazan population? You're not quiet about Palestinian HR's when it's Israel doing the violating, but you could care less when it's Hamas doing much worse. How is that some "leftwing" virtue people should respect? Can you name just one true "leftwing" organization that promotes your values and is committed to Palestinian human rights under Hamas rule? One that is equally critical of Egypt's blockade and that advocated against the collective punishment of Israelis for the 8 years prior to OCL when they were being rocketed daily? Name just one organization please.
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| -Right-Wing Flame War! (LGF!!1!) |
Scurrilous |
Jan-24-10 08:13 PM |
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This right wing movement proves over and over again that |
MadMaddie |
Jan-24-10 08:25 PM |
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I find the Kreestian right even more dangerous than the muslims |
HillbillyBob |
Jan-24-10 10:05 PM |
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I have read two full pages on the NYT and still can't figure out what |
WCGreen |
Jan-24-10 08:56 PM |
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Short version: |
Scurrilous |
Jan-24-10 09:08 PM |
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The term "Little Green Footballs" has been used for dexedrine capsules. |
Ken Burch |
Jan-24-10 10:41 PM |
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Seems like Charles "blows with the wind" |
azurnoir |
Jan-24-10 11:52 PM |
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Damn, one less site for some here to look to for finding compatible values and supportive |
ConsAreLiars |
Jan-25-10 01:37 AM |
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Somehow I knew that the poster you were referring to |
shaayecanaan |
Jan-25-10 04:45 AM |
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would the 2 of you (or anyone else) like to really discuss RW/LW views on I/P? |
shira |
Jan-25-10 06:02 AM |
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part II |
shira |
Jan-25-10 07:48 AM |
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I don't think that one's opinions on I/P in isolation are enough to label one as RW or LW |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-25-10 12:53 PM |
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I agree with most of that... |
shira |
Jan-25-10 02:41 PM |
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Of course you would. LB was incredibly understated in her criticism of you... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-25-10 03:37 PM |
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why do you say you're not a progressive, that you're a left winger? |
shira |
Jan-25-10 06:50 PM |
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Because the term 'progressive' seems to be a bit of a wanky American term.... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-25-10 08:18 PM |
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why exactly is 'progressive' a wanky term in your opinion? |
shira |
Jan-26-10 03:56 AM |
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Because it's fucking wanky, that's why... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 04:18 AM |
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you're avoiding my questions with your obfuscation and personal attacks |
shira |
Jan-26-10 04:25 AM |
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Says the person who can't answer questions it's asked... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 04:31 AM |
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and you're still avoiding the questions |
shira |
Jan-26-10 04:39 AM |
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No, I'm not playing yr stupid control-freak games, that's all... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 04:44 AM |
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last chance... |
shira |
Jan-26-10 04:48 AM |
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You really don't bother paying attention to what's said to you, do you? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 04:54 AM |
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so you'll answer me once I answer you? |
shira |
Jan-26-10 04:59 AM |
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No, that's not what I said... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 05:02 AM |
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LOL...you're so predictable |
shira |
Jan-26-10 05:07 AM |
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Yeah, I'm always predictable about making sure people aren't twisting what I say... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 05:11 AM |
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Actually, those 'questions' range from plain weird to outright bizarre... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 05:32 AM |
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thanks for answering #2 |
shira |
Jan-26-10 05:45 AM |
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No, don't recall slamming anyone... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 06:02 AM |
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you called the vast majority of progressive, pro-Israel leftist democratic politicos "stupid" |
shira |
Jan-26-10 06:09 PM |
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No, that's not what I said. Why do you insist on twisting what people say? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-27-10 12:22 AM |
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yeah, right |
shira |
Jan-27-10 04:27 AM |
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Answer the question you got asked. It's right in the title of the post you replied to... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-27-10 04:37 AM |
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to second VC |
Djinn |
Jan-31-10 01:07 AM |
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so LW congressmen and senators in the USA are really RW'ers due to their views on economic issues? |
shira |
Jan-31-10 04:54 AM |
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not a "true believer" |
Djinn |
Jan-31-10 06:43 AM |
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you're attributing false views of Hamas to me |
shira |
Jan-31-10 08:11 AM |
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what I believe is based on knowing people who live there |
Djinn |
Jan-31-10 08:15 AM |
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so next time you're in Gaza... |
shira |
Jan-31-10 08:27 AM |
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I've seen you attack the only poster here who has family in Gaza... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-01-10 01:12 AM |
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By the standards of many countries, they are at any rate not LW |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-31-10 07:27 AM |
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thanks - back to the topic - what makes most Democrats views of I/P not so leftwing? |
shira |
Jan-31-10 07:55 AM |
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I simply don't understand the point of some of your questions... |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-31-10 08:14 AM |
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(edited) point of the Goldstone question... |
shira |
Jan-31-10 08:18 AM |
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Hard to label internationally... |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-31-10 11:27 AM |
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thanks, this is very helpful |
shira |
Jan-31-10 11:39 AM |
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Errmmm |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-31-10 12:40 PM |
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thanks again |
shira |
Jan-31-10 01:28 PM |
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Just to clarify that of course I realize that LePen is not British or American! I was citing him as |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-31-10 04:25 PM |
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LB, see if you agree with me that Goldstone has no use for Israel's left |
shira |
Feb-01-10 03:09 PM |
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Comments... |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-25-10 06:12 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-25-10 07:08 PM |
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Why do you keep spamming this forum with links to some stupid blog? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-25-10 08:21 PM |
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that 2nd link on WilliamBapthorpe is a perfect example |
shira |
Jan-26-10 03:39 AM |
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Uh, you didn't answer the question I aqsked you. |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 04:05 AM |
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but you say you're against anti-Jewish bigotry |
shira |
Jan-26-10 04:07 AM |
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And you still refuse to answer the question I asked you... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 04:10 AM |
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i'm against racism and bigotry and so is CiFWatch, that's why |
shira |
Jan-26-10 04:17 AM |
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I know plenty of places that are against bigotry... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 04:26 AM |
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do you find anything wrong with these comments... |
shira |
Jan-26-10 04:33 AM |
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I've got no fucking idea and even less interest in knowing what that's from.. |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 04:36 AM |
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those are comments right off CiF and that poster was not banned |
shira |
Jan-26-10 04:45 AM |
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What the fuck do you want anyone here to do about it? This is DU, not CiF... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 04:59 AM |
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at least admit that's bigotry CiF needs to act more seriously against |
shira |
Jan-26-10 05:05 AM |
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What bit of me not being interested in the comments at CiF or that blog are you not getting? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-26-10 05:13 AM |
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LB...you wrote and asked.... |
pelsar |
Jan-26-10 01:00 AM |
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Thanks - interesting points! |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-26-10 02:19 PM |
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religion can be "passive".... |
pelsar |
Jan-26-10 11:34 PM |
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response to LB |
shira |
Jan-26-10 08:46 AM |
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A few points |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-26-10 02:07 PM |
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self delete |
shira |
Jan-26-10 02:57 PM |
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on your two points.... |
shira |
Jan-26-10 02:59 PM |
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Are you for real? Of course there's bigotry against Muslims at CiF! |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-27-10 12:28 AM |
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then show me please |
shira |
Jan-27-10 04:11 AM |
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What's this? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-27-10 04:41 AM |
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link? |
shira |
Jan-27-10 04:57 AM |
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Here... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-27-10 05:02 AM |
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thanks, that's pretty bad.....looks like the mods are busier on I/P threads where it's more heated |
shira |
Jan-27-10 05:09 AM |
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No, I'm not going to waste time searching for things on another site... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-27-10 05:13 AM |
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well, if/when you ever find an article on CiF that is anti-Muslim or racist against any group... |
shira |
Jan-27-10 03:40 PM |
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I just said I'm not going to go looking... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-27-10 08:09 PM |
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then don't |
shira |
Jan-28-10 04:35 AM |
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That's what I've been telling you for the past few posts. Glad you finally got the hint... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-28-10 04:52 AM |
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your views on I/P are not mainstream leftwing in either the USA or Israel |
shira |
Jan-28-10 05:47 AM |
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As I've told you repeatedly, you've got no clue what my views are... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-28-10 05:55 AM |
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your views are counter to the ADL and most voting democrats/leftists in the USA and Israel |
shira |
Jan-28-10 05:59 AM |
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As I've told you repeatedly, you've got no clue what my views are... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-28-10 06:01 AM |
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ROFL |
Djinn |
Jan-31-10 01:28 AM |
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please explain what's so RW about the mainstream left in both the USA and Israel |
shira |
Jan-31-10 04:57 AM |
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go do politics 101 |
Djinn |
Jan-31-10 06:51 AM |
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Good luck trying to get any sense out of it... |
Violet_Crumble |
Feb-01-10 01:19 AM |
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Taking your challenge... |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-27-10 05:31 PM |
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thanks, see post #67 |
shira |
Jan-28-10 04:09 AM |
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One would have to define an 'anti-Muslim' article |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-28-10 01:02 PM |
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that article isn't hateful or anti-Muslim bigotry |
shira |
Jan-28-10 01:20 PM |
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It isn't anti-Muslim; but it is defending aggression against Iraq |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-28-10 04:25 PM |
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I always figured your reasonableness schtick... |
shaayecanaan |
Jan-26-10 10:57 PM |
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come on...i'm still around.... |
pelsar |
Jan-26-10 11:16 PM |
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I think you've been "dethroned" |
azurnoir |
Jan-27-10 09:21 AM |
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Dont know... |
shaayecanaan |
Jan-28-10 04:42 AM |
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why dont you reverse it.... |
pelsar |
Jan-28-10 05:29 AM |
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You would be wrong! |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-27-10 03:11 AM |
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Classical philology |
shaayecanaan |
Jan-27-10 06:20 PM |
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I just wanted to commend you on how patient and friendly you are to Shira... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-27-10 12:39 AM |
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A lot of bad things happened in DU after 9-11 that let to an exodus to LGF |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-25-10 07:27 PM |
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This is a very interesting article |
varelse |
Jan-29-10 09:25 PM |
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