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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. Doesn't change it was a choice.
And, no I don't agree with your question nor your strawman.
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  -Israel deports American journalist demoleft  Jan-20-10 05:47 AM   #0 
  - at least they didn't kill him (like they've done to others)  subsuelo   Jan-20-10 06:55 AM   #1 
  - I guess they're scared he might WRITE something  trungpa ricochet   Jan-20-10 07:58 AM   #2 
  - Israel deports US journalist  AlphaCentauri   Jan-20-10 09:44 AM   #3 
  - New headline: Detained American journalist opts to leave Israel  Behind the Aegis   Jan-20-10 10:01 AM   #4 
  - So in other words  Tempest   Jan-20-10 10:16 AM   #5 
  - But there was a choice.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-20-10 10:19 AM   #6 
  - There was no choice  Tempest   Jan-20-10 01:02 PM   #9 
  - There was a choice.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-20-10 01:06 PM   #10 
  - If you consider an offer from Don Corleone a choice  Tempest   Jan-20-10 02:42 PM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-20-10 02:51 PM   #14 
     - Malsin HIMSELF said there wasn't a choice.  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 12:58 AM   #26 
  - It was a meaningless choice  Ken Burch   Jan-21-10 06:38 PM   #18 
     - It was a choice.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-21-10 11:54 PM   #22 
        - Not when you're in a cell  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 12:55 AM   #25 
           - Doesn't change it was a choice.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:03 AM   #27 
              - There WAS no strawman  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 01:39 AM   #29 
                 - There was a strawman, it was a combo of your subject line and first sentence.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:43 AM   #31 
                    - It is a simple question  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 01:45 AM   #33 
                       - You are introducing "facts" not in evidence.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:47 AM   #35 
                          - Fact: Malsin is just a journalist  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 01:54 AM   #39 
                             - More straw and facts without substanstial proof.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:56 AM   #41 
  - Malsin: No such thing as voluntary deportation  Scurrilous   Jan-21-10 05:40 PM   #16 
  - Are you saying the fact that he may have been allowed to leave means he wasn't BARRED from entering?  Ken Burch   Jan-21-10 07:05 PM   #20 
  - The story is discussed here on this thread  azurnoir   Jan-20-10 03:18 PM   #15 
  - How'd you do that?  The Stranger   Jan-20-10 01:30 PM   #11 
  - Zionist magic.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-20-10 01:40 PM   #12 
     - Israel does not have to do this to JOURNALISTS to survive  Ken Burch   Jan-21-10 06:40 PM   #19 
        - Before commenting on a particular comment, read the comment preceding it.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-21-10 11:56 PM   #23 
           - I read the comment.  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 12:54 AM   #24 
              - Try again, Ken.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:04 AM   #28 
                 - No false statement.  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 01:41 AM   #30 
                    - Again, more straw and now, side-stepping the actual post to which I responded.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:44 AM   #32 
                       - All you did was make a meaningless change in the headline  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 01:49 AM   #37 
                          - Newsflash...***I*** didn't make the change in the headline.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:58 AM   #44 
                             - Even if the headline was actually changed by the press service, it's meaningless  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 02:00 AM   #46 
                                - Look up the word "meaningless" after you look up the word "choice."  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 02:01 AM   #49 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-22-10 02:03 AM   #52 
  - There's never a justification for putting a JOURNALIST in detention.  Ken Burch   Jan-21-10 06:36 PM   #17 
  - IF you're in a cell, it's not free choice to leave.  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 01:46 AM   #34 
     - Changing the goalposts doesn't change the fact he had a choice.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:48 AM   #36 
        - IF you're in a cell, it's not a choice  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 01:51 AM   #38 
        - More straw and more stupidity.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:55 AM   #40 
           - You don't honestly think that inserting the false word "choice" means Malsin wasn't forced to leave  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 01:58 AM   #43 
              - Why can't you except you have done nothing but throw up one strawman after another?  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 02:00 AM   #47 
        - Repeating the meaningless phrase "he had a choice" doesn't discredit the story  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 01:56 AM   #42 
           - Repeating the same tired strawman doesn't change the fact he had a choice.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:59 AM   #45 
              - Malsin's own statement proves he was forced to leave?  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 02:01 AM   #48 
              - Why can't you admit you don't know the meaning of the word "meaningless?"  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 02:02 AM   #51 
                 - IF you're in a cell, you don't have a choice.  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 02:03 AM   #53 
                    - Look up "choice."  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 02:05 AM   #56 
                       - Choice requires freedom. Everyone knows that.  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 02:33 AM   #57 
                          - More logical fallacies. How unsurprising.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 02:37 AM   #58 
                             - And everyone acknowledges that the power of choosing is only possessed by those who are not  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 02:53 AM   #59 
                                - More logical fallacies.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 03:02 AM   #60 
              - No one in a prison cell has ANY choices.  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 02:02 AM   #50 
                 - Now we have moved from strawmen to "no true sctosman" logical fallacies?  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 02:03 AM   #54 
                    - IF you're in a cell, you are without rights and without power.  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 02:05 AM   #55 
  - Israel tossed a couple of my friends  gratuitous   Jan-20-10 10:25 AM   #7 
  - Israel supports freedom of choice  trungpa ricochet   Jan-20-10 10:34 AM   #8 
  - Jared Malsin: Theres no such thing as a voluntary deportation. I was deported, period.  Douglas Carpenter   Jan-21-10 10:14 PM   #21 
     - Only a complete illiterate moron would try to argue there is...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-22-10 03:05 AM   #61 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-22-10 03:41 AM   #62 
           - I've been following that exchange with some amusement...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-22-10 03:48 AM   #63 
              - Some amusement?  Scurrilous   Jan-22-10 04:14 AM   #64 
                 - Okay, that was a bit understated...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-22-10 04:40 AM   #65 
                 - Violet, I'm begging you...please don't ever turn the "strawmen" thing into a drinking game  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 01:28 PM   #66 
                    - Especially with the number you provide on an almost daily basis.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 01:33 PM   #67 
                    - Ok a question here for you and I will ask one at a time  azurnoir   Jan-22-10 03:14 PM   #69 
                       - Can you not understand the articles?  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 03:26 PM   #71 
                          - Of course I can understand the articles  azurnoir   Jan-22-10 03:39 PM   #73 
                             - Then you know what the choices were.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 03:43 PM   #74 
                                - Do you?  azurnoir   Jan-22-10 04:32 PM   #75 
                                   - Yes, I know. And, if you read and understood the articles, so should you.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-10 04:35 PM   #76 
                                      - Az asked you what you think the choices are. Could you try answering the question yr asked?  Violet_Crumble   Jan-22-10 04:51 PM   #77 
                                      - The only choices were to be forced out sooner or forced out later  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 05:03 PM   #78 
                                         - What? You mean there's no choice to stay when it comes to deportation???  Violet_Crumble   Jan-22-10 05:06 PM   #79 
                                            - well I actually expected another answer  azurnoir   Jan-22-10 06:23 PM   #82 
                                               - Aegis doesn't do "answers" or arguments for a position  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 07:10 PM   #83 
                                                  - oh and don't I know that ............. n/t  azurnoir   Jan-23-10 04:12 AM   #84 
                                                  - Yeah, not hard to spot that...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-23-10 06:41 PM   #85 
                    - That'd be encouraging irresponsible drinking!  Violet_Crumble   Jan-22-10 03:03 PM   #68 
                       - Hmmmm sounds more like a  azurnoir   Jan-22-10 03:28 PM   #72 
                 - As a person of Scottish descent, I take personal and ethnic offense at that last one  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 03:23 PM   #70 
                    - Be careful when cracking jokes like that, Ken...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-22-10 05:17 PM   #80 
                       - Aye, 'struth.  Ken Burch   Jan-22-10 05:33 PM   #81 

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