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3. And you do? The only thing you know is to apologize for Israel's racist policies
The Zionist version of a personality cult!
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  -Robert Fisks World: Walls never work: in the Middle East or in Ireland IndianaGreen  Jan-01-10 07:44 PM   #0 
  - Any article, no matter how insightful, that suggests Israel is on the wrong track gets put on  ConsAreLiars   Jan-02-10 02:11 AM   #1 
  - just curious.....  pelsar   Jan-02-10 10:25 AM   #2 
     - And you do? The only thing you know is to apologize for Israel's racist policies  IndianaGreen   Jan-02-10 10:50 AM   #3 
        - well yes i do....  pelsar   Jan-03-10 06:25 AM   #4 
           - I think he meant to say you were an apoligist(that is a defender) for Israeli security policies  Ken Burch   Jan-08-10 02:10 AM   #45 
              - actually the word use is correct... (i never checked)  pelsar   Jan-08-10 02:17 AM   #46 
                 - If there's one thing I can barely picture you saying(at least politically)  Ken Burch   Jan-08-10 02:38 AM   #47 
                 - eg, in Socrates's "Apology" he never says "I'm sorry"  Recursion   Jan-14-10 02:18 PM   #92 
  - One phrase tells you everything that you need to know.  aranthus   Jan-04-10 01:06 PM   #5 
  - I would expect people keep reading past the byline...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-06-10 04:44 AM   #17 
     - It wasn't a by-line.  aranthus   Jan-06-10 10:25 AM   #20 
     - also, how can the occupation be illegal? The 4GC sets rules for occupying powers....  shira   Jan-06-10 11:16 AM   #23 
        - It can't be for several reasons.  aranthus   Jan-06-10 12:11 PM   #24 
     - ALL settlers anywhere in Occupied Territories are illegal under international law - This is not even  Douglas Carpenter   Jan-07-10 05:00 AM   #30 
        - absolute nonsense - as the link provided in post #23 above proves  shira   Jan-07-10 05:30 AM   #32 
        - Yeah, the settlements are definately illegal under international law...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-14-10 12:52 AM   #85 
  - Robert Fisk wrote if he were Afghani, he would kill westerners  shira   Jan-05-10 06:20 PM   #6 
     - If someone had done to us what we did to Iraq or Afghanistan  IndianaGreen   Jan-05-10 06:37 PM   #7 
     - Fisk didn't call for killing foreign invaders, but any westerners  shira   Jan-05-10 06:53 PM   #8 
        - You know full well what he meant, but you are spinning it to suit your sick ideology  IndianaGreen   Jan-05-10 07:06 PM   #9 
           - so Robert Fisk, or any other westerner like yourself would be considered a foreign invader?  shira   Jan-05-10 07:11 PM   #10 
              - I wouldn't go to any region in Afghanistan after it has been bombed by US  IndianaGreen   Jan-05-10 07:14 PM   #11 
                 - but Western civilians are not 'foreign invading' troops who deserve being blown up, right?  shira   Jan-05-10 07:16 PM   #12 
                 - Do you even remember the lust for blood in America on the aftermath of 9-11?  IndianaGreen   Jan-05-10 07:20 PM   #13 
                    - so? just b/c after 911 some Americans wanted random Muslims killed doesn't make Fisk's views...  shira   Jan-05-10 07:29 PM   #14 
                       - and you had to play the Holocaust card in your newly edited post  IndianaGreen   Jan-05-10 08:11 PM   #15 
                          - It is worse than sad when  ConsAreLiars   Jan-06-10 12:53 AM   #16 
                             - what's worse than sad is those who have fake concerns for human rights and use that to bash/hate  shira   Jan-06-10 04:59 AM   #18 
                             - Shira, please don't wheel out holocaust survivors in relation to palestine.  Tripmann   Jan-06-10 07:21 AM   #19 
                                - And do not forget that Israel was not even involved in that one  azurnoir   Jan-06-10 10:47 AM   #21 
                                - why not? the point is no matter how bad things are, Fisk is wrong sympathizing with a mindset that  shira   Jan-06-10 11:01 AM   #22 
                                   - I guess the 'mindset' is lost on you then  Tripmann   Jan-06-10 12:57 PM   #26 
                                      - it must be lost on me.....so here are several questions for clarity's sake  shira   Jan-06-10 02:27 PM   #27 
                                         - This is very basic stuff shira....  Tripmann   Jan-07-10 05:29 AM   #31 
                                            - so recognizing the right of others to deliberately attack innocents...  shira   Jan-07-10 05:36 AM   #33 
                                               - Your attempts to put words in my mouth are laughable shira  Tripmann   Jan-07-10 05:51 AM   #34 
                                               - just trying to get it straight  shira   Jan-07-10 05:58 AM   #35 
                                               - I stated whether I condone your methods or not.  Tripmann   Jan-07-10 06:02 AM   #36 
                                               - i asked for clarity and now you're backing down  shira   Jan-07-10 06:36 AM   #37 
                                               - I'm not backing down by no means shira  Tripmann   Jan-07-10 07:36 AM   #38 
                                               - to quote you..  shira   Jan-07-10 12:18 PM   #40 
                                               - You seem to be obsessed..  Tripmann   Jan-07-10 04:30 PM   #41 
                                               - Israel is like the man that kicks and abuses a puppy  IndianaGreen   Jan-07-10 07:19 PM   #42 
                                               - i dont understand either....  pelsar   Jan-07-10 11:31 PM   #43 
                                               - on second thought and further research...i think i understand.....  pelsar   Jan-08-10 12:35 AM   #44 
                                               - You're kinda right pelsar  Tripmann   Jan-08-10 06:12 AM   #48 
                                               - your philosophy/attitude assumes the Palestinians are "special"  pelsar   Jan-09-10 02:58 AM   #49 
                                               - I don't judge palestinians as 'special'.....  Tripmann   Jan-09-10 04:39 AM   #50 
                                               - war and terrorism have its uses....  pelsar   Jan-09-10 05:02 AM   #51 
                                               - But thats exactly what you're doing  Tripmann   Jan-09-10 10:27 AM   #52 
                                               - so if you can't defend your position, be more careful with your words next time, admit your mistake,  shira   Jan-09-10 11:30 AM   #53 
                                               - LOL, what mistake shira? What part of my position do you need explained once again?  Tripmann   Jan-09-10 01:00 PM   #55 
                                               - try responding in full to Pelsar's post #51, okay?  shira   Jan-09-10 04:32 PM   #56 
                                               - Try framing it as a question so I can answer it concisely.  Tripmann   Jan-09-10 10:16 PM   #57 
                                               - I leave it to you to choose any one question from Pelsar's posts #49 or #51  shira   Jan-10-10 10:59 AM   #58 
                                               - Exactly what I thought...  Tripmann   Jan-10-10 11:48 AM   #59 
                                               - okay, here's a question (in bold) based on a few facts...  shira   Jan-10-10 01:16 PM   #60 
                                               - What part of...  Tripmann   Jan-11-10 04:44 AM   #61 
                                               - one last try  shira   Jan-11-10 06:13 AM   #62 
                                               - Wow, you really don't know when to stop digging, do you?  Tripmann   Jan-11-10 06:35 AM   #63 
                                               - this is pointless and here's why...  shira   Jan-11-10 03:22 PM   #64 
                                               - I don't take issue with your question  Tripmann   Jan-11-10 03:56 PM   #65 
                                               - sure you do  shira   Jan-11-10 09:21 PM   #66 
                                               - More grandstanding without a straight question  Tripmann   Jan-12-10 04:38 AM   #67 
                                               - LOL....  shira   Jan-12-10 05:00 AM   #68 
                                               - Still waiting for that straight question.......  Tripmann   Jan-12-10 05:25 AM   #69 
                                               - okay, I'll play along  shira   Jan-12-10 05:31 AM   #70 
                                               - I recognise the right of ANY people to resist their oppressor  Tripmann   Jan-12-10 05:41 AM   #71 
                                               - so when did that violence suddenly turn into resistance to oppression? please answer  shira   Jan-12-10 05:44 AM   #72 
                                               - When the action takens primary function is to resist the oppressor. Chicken and egg stuff shira.  Tripmann   Jan-12-10 08:21 AM   #73 
                                               - how do you distinguish b/w action that resists the oppressor and aggressive action?  shira   Jan-12-10 12:28 PM   #74 
                                               - You seem to be a bit confused shira  Tripmann   Jan-13-10 05:06 AM   #78 
                                               - well, at least you admitted you condemn aggression for aggression's sake  shira   Jan-13-10 05:28 AM   #79 
                                               - "What's your evidence for this?"  Tripmann   Jan-13-10 08:05 AM   #81 
                                               - on the contrary the history is important..  pelsar   Jan-13-10 01:29 AM   #75 
                                               - That 'obvious point' isn't correct...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-13-10 02:08 AM   #76 
                                               - not as far as i know  pelsar   Jan-13-10 03:08 AM   #77 
                                               - I'm talking about the First Aliyah...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-14-10 01:03 AM   #86 
                                               - d/p  pelsar   Jan-15-10 04:38 AM   #94 
                                               - but of course they re going to fight back...  pelsar   Jan-15-10 04:38 AM   #95 
                                               - yes that picture is far less than accurate:  Douglas Carpenter   Jan-13-10 07:35 AM   #80 
                                               - try again please...and watch the dates....  pelsar   Jan-13-10 11:40 PM   #83 
                                               - Can you list attacks by Arabs on Zionist settlers  azurnoir   Jan-13-10 11:45 PM   #84 
                                               - the quote above was made in 1891  Douglas Carpenter   Jan-14-10 06:27 AM   #90 
                                               - why are you shocked?  pelsar   Jan-15-10 04:14 AM   #93 
                                               - missing facts WRT Jews and Arabs pre-1948  shira   Jan-15-10 04:40 AM   #96 
                                               - my point is that any usurpation of someone's homeland with the intent of creating a state  Douglas Carpenter   Jan-15-10 09:17 AM   #109 
                                               - no..your point was that it was possible via respect to avoid a conflict...  pelsar   Jan-20-10 02:21 AM   #134 
                                               - what not to do, if one wants to avoid conflict  Douglas Carpenter   Jan-20-10 03:02 AM   #135 
                                               - history, facts, and logic are not important to the irrationally or emotionally compromised  shira   Jan-13-10 11:48 AM   #82 
                                               - Again, completely one-sided  Tripmann   Jan-14-10 04:52 AM   #87 
                                               - here's a Ray Hanania OP posted just yesterday...  shira   Jan-14-10 05:15 AM   #88 
                                               - Thats what you have to reply? An OP in the jpost?  Tripmann   Jan-14-10 06:14 AM   #89 
                                               - yeah, it shows how liberals do not recognize the "right" of Hamas, etc.. to terrorize  shira   Jan-14-10 12:15 PM   #91 
                                               - Ah yes  Tripmann   Jan-15-10 04:52 AM   #97 
                                               - ah, of course  shira   Jan-15-10 05:07 AM   #98 
                                               - As you are accusing me of demonising Israel  Tripmann   Jan-15-10 07:11 AM   #101 
                                               - Well I think 3 days is enough time to give you  Tripmann   Jan-18-10 08:40 AM   #128 
                                               - what's the point carrying on?  shira   Jan-18-10 05:31 PM   #129 
                                               - Show me where I said israel intentionally targets innocents.  Tripmann   Jan-19-10 05:13 AM   #130 
                                               - first, why did you compare the Israeli defense minister to an SS officer?  shira   Jan-19-10 05:35 AM   #131 
                                               - Show me where I said Israel intentionally targets innocents  Tripmann   Jan-19-10 06:31 AM   #132 
                                               - put 2 and 2 together  shira   Jan-19-10 04:45 PM   #133 
                                               - Show me where I said Israel intentionally targets innocents  Tripmann   Jan-20-10 03:31 AM   #136 
                                               - Correction.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 05:08 AM   #99 
                                               - A correction of yr correction...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-15-10 06:40 AM   #100 
                                               - Correction.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 07:24 AM   #102 
                                               - Is this the link?  azurnoir   Jan-15-10 07:34 AM   #103 
                                               - You have any thing to disprove it?  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 07:40 AM   #104 
                                               - Do you? it was your link  azurnoir   Jan-15-10 08:01 AM   #105 
                                               - So, nothing? No surprise.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 08:08 AM   #106 
                                               - Yawn interpet as you wish dear  azurnoir   Jan-15-10 08:12 AM   #107 
                                               - Once again, nothing. Yawn, indeed. You are nothing if not predictable,  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 08:14 AM   #108 
                                               - Yr correction is incorrect...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-15-10 01:39 PM   #110 
                                               - And that linked showed it was not.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 01:42 PM   #111 
                                               - the one you fixed 45 minutes or so after I did? n/t  azurnoir   Jan-15-10 02:05 PM   #112 
                                               - Here's a suggestion that was given to me to deal with late edits...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-15-10 02:47 PM   #118 
                                               - Which link?  Violet_Crumble   Jan-15-10 02:06 PM   #113 
                                               - The link I provided demonstrated Gaza is NOT the most densely populated place on earth.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 02:11 PM   #114 
                                               - You made an incorrect claim about the most densely populated areas on earth...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-15-10 02:14 PM   #115 
                                               - In your mind perhaps...  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 02:19 PM   #116 
                                               - Posted in this thread definately...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-15-10 02:36 PM   #117 
                                               - Actually, you're wrong as well. Correcting your correction.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 02:48 PM   #119 
                                               - No. I said nothing about cities. Yr bringing that up now...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-15-10 03:54 PM   #122 
                                               - Doesn't matter what you said about cities or not.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 03:56 PM   #123 
                                               - I didn't say anything about cities. Yr the one who did...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-15-10 04:01 PM   #125 
                                               - Doesn't matter.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 04:08 PM   #126 
                                               - Yeah, it does as the post you initially replied to was clearly not talking about cities...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-15-10 05:36 PM   #127 
                                               - I always heard it was dhaka. np  Shaktimaan   Jan-15-10 03:00 PM   #120 
                                               - It is.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-15-10 03:04 PM   #121 
                                               - After travelling on a bus last week during the heatwave, I could swear it's Canberra...  Violet_Crumble   Jan-15-10 03:59 PM   #124 
                             - well said. +1 [n/t]  stranger81   Jan-09-10 12:40 PM   #54 
                 - Before the CIA destabilization began, Afghans treated Westerners as very welcome guests.  ConsAreLiars   Jan-07-10 01:54 AM   #29 
     - Fisk was speaking from his own experience  azurnoir   Jan-06-10 12:21 PM   #25 
        - Fisk wrote explicitly about attacking ANY westerner, like himself, not just military personel  shira   Jan-06-10 02:31 PM   #28 
           - Yes Shira he was your right  azurnoir   Jan-07-10 07:45 AM   #39 
 

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