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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:19 AM
Response to Reply #75
77. Surely yr not going to try to pretend there was never a time where there was little friction? n/t
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  -Palestine 'may abandon two-state solution'-- Dr.Erekat says. Mosby  Nov-07-09 10:42 AM   #0 
  - The one-state solution is inevitable, but  mix   Nov-07-09 10:47 AM   #1 
  - The one state "solution" is never going to happen  Mosby   Nov-07-09 10:55 AM   #2 
  - There is some truth to it being a negotiating tactic,  mix   Nov-07-09 11:00 AM   #3 
  - Building more and more settlements(almost all of which are illegal)  Ken Burch   Nov-07-09 02:04 PM   #5 
  - will you please just stop it...you simply have no idea what your talking about...  pelsar   Nov-07-09 02:33 PM   # 
     - They don't do what they do out ot antisemitism  Ken Burch   Nov-07-09 02:38 PM   #15 
        - Wow! That's lots of straw you got there.  Behind the Aegis   Nov-07-09 02:44 PM   #21 
        - No straw. You were implying a position that Palestinians don't take  Ken Burch   Nov-07-09 03:48 PM   #24 
           - PLENTY of straw! You were implying a position pelsar (and otehrs) took (take), but didn't (don't).  Behind the Aegis   Nov-07-09 07:34 PM   #43 
        - huh?...where did that come from? anti semitism?....from outerspace?  pelsar   Nov-07-09 11:17 PM   #54 
  - i think it will  bstender   Nov-09-09 01:26 AM   #69 
  - The one-state solution is at present impossible..  LeftishBrit   Nov-07-09 11:48 AM   #4 
     - It's definately being used as a tactic...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-07-09 02:20 PM   #9 
     - The two-state solution at present is also impossible; we're left with one-state apartheid  ProgressiveMuslim   Nov-07-09 04:06 PM   #28 
     - It's unlikely right now because the Palestinian leadership  Mosby   Nov-07-09 06:06 PM   #42 
        - That makes it sound like Nutty is champing at the bit to arrive at a viable two-state solution...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-07-09 09:46 PM   #50 
           - Netanyahu said he would negotiate.  Mosby   Nov-07-09 10:42 PM   #51 
              - What's he supposed to be wanting to negotiate?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-07-09 11:43 PM   #56 
     - How many states are there now? One  Recursion   Nov-09-09 05:49 AM   #72 
        - There are lots of states there now  oberliner   Nov-09-09 06:16 AM   #76 
           - Sigh  Recursion   Nov-09-09 10:24 AM   #84 
              - There is not a "one-state solution" - the fact that there is no Palestinian state is the problem  oberliner   Nov-09-09 01:26 PM   #91 
  - Yet again....  Behind the Aegis   Nov-07-09 02:08 PM   #6 
  - That's not what was said in the article...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-07-09 02:16 PM   #7 
     - It wasn't a quote from the article, nor did I claim it was.  Behind the Aegis   Nov-07-09 02:20 PM   #8 
        - Where's the quote from, then? n/t  Violet_Crumble   Nov-07-09 02:21 PM   #10 
           - It's called an "irony quote."  Behind the Aegis   Nov-07-09 02:27 PM   #12 
              - But who are you quoting?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-07-09 02:33 PM   #13 
                 - I am not quoting anyone, which is why it is called an "irony" quote.  Behind the Aegis   Nov-07-09 02:35 PM   #14 
                    - I added a bit to my post as you were answering, bta...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-07-09 02:38 PM   #16 
                    - Doesn't change my response.  Behind the Aegis   Nov-07-09 02:42 PM   #18 
                       - Fair enough n/t  Violet_Crumble   Nov-07-09 02:49 PM   #22 
                    - It's also an irony quote because, ironically, it has nothing to do with ANYTHING  Ken Burch   Nov-07-09 02:43 PM   #19 
                       - Says the creator of strawmen.  Behind the Aegis   Nov-07-09 02:44 PM   #20 
                          - You've slandered me every time you've made that accusation  Ken Burch   Nov-07-09 03:49 PM   #25 
                             - It isn't "slander." Look it up.  Behind the Aegis   Nov-07-09 07:35 PM   #44 
  - Everyone knows the death of the two state solution would result in mass violence.  Kurska   Nov-07-09 02:24 PM   #11 
  - If you want the two-state solution to live, tell the Israeli government  Ken Burch   Nov-07-09 02:41 PM   #17 
  - I am the strongest supporter of Palestinians getting their own state as it is possible  Kurska   Nov-07-09 03:30 PM   #23 
     - As soon as it's possible and when will that be?  azurnoir   Nov-07-09 05:31 PM   #38 
     - that's a good question for you too....should Israel unilaterally withdraw now from the W.Bank?  shira   Nov-07-09 06:03 PM   #40 
        - Only if they don't want a one state solution.  Crunchy Frog   Nov-07-09 09:09 PM   #49 
        - and if the W.Bank turns into Gaza, so be it?  shira   Nov-07-09 10:53 PM   #52 
           - They could always maintain a military presence, but get rid of the settlements.  Crunchy Frog   Nov-08-09 12:43 PM   #63 
        - Depends on what the Palestinians decide  azurnoir   Nov-08-09 12:35 PM   #62 
     - You also support Taiwans' independence?  IDFbunny   Nov-10-09 06:30 PM   #110 
  - How can you say that with a straight face, when Israel refuses the SLIGHTEST compromise,  ProgressiveMuslim   Nov-07-09 04:12 PM   #31 
     - Israel removed every settler and settlement from Gaza  oberliner   Nov-07-09 04:24 PM   #33 
  - War without end. While the Palestinians proudly pout, the Israeli mouse eats the cheese.  JDPriestly   Nov-07-09 04:02 PM   #26 
  - Calling the Palestinian people fools is as bad as the poster who called Israelis cowards...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-07-09 04:05 PM   #27 
  - I have been watching this conflict since the early 50s.  JDPriestly   Nov-08-09 02:49 PM   #66 
     - I don't care how long you've been watching it for. What you said was a nasty generalisation...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-09-09 05:57 AM   #74 
     - Reality speaks for itself.  JDPriestly   Nov-09-09 02:11 PM   #97 
  - There is no justification for Israel to get a single inch of the West Bank  Ken Burch   Nov-07-09 04:07 PM   #29 
  - What about East Jerusalem? The Jewish Quarter?  oberliner   Nov-07-09 04:12 PM   #32 
  - where the Shepherd Hotel stands?  azurnoir   Nov-07-09 05:18 PM   #35 
     - Do you seriously not know what the Jewish Quarter is?  oberliner   Nov-07-09 05:51 PM   #39 
        - I was asking what you consider to be the Jewish Quarter n/t  azurnoir   Nov-07-09 07:40 PM   #45 
           - Your statement is baffling to me  oberliner   Nov-07-09 08:14 PM   #46 
              - nice map however didn't there used to a Moroccan Quarter  azurnoir   Nov-07-09 11:09 PM   #53 
                 - Here is another map that may help you further  oberliner   Nov-08-09 04:59 AM   #58 
                    - Your dodging my question I do not need another map n/t  azurnoir   Nov-08-09 10:51 AM   #59 
                       - I am not dodging any question  oberliner   Nov-08-09 02:29 PM   #65 
  - i find you posts fascinating in an imaginative way....no basis in fact yet....  pelsar   Nov-07-09 11:31 PM   #55 
  - The 1994 compromise was a big step. A Palestinian needs to  JDPriestly   Nov-08-09 02:53 PM   #67 
  - What compromise have they not made? What hoop have they not jumpted through?  ProgressiveMuslim   Nov-07-09 04:10 PM   #30 
  - The Native Americans did a pretty good job of "pouting themselves  Crunchy Frog   Nov-08-09 12:48 PM   #64 
  - Why is three state never given consideration?  IDFbunny   Nov-10-09 06:34 PM   #111 
  - Palestine declared independence in 1988  excess_3   Nov-07-09 05:00 PM   #34 
  - Where are you heading with this? That Palestine is a sovereign state?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-07-09 05:24 PM   #36 
  - Erekat is very correct in assement  azurnoir   Nov-07-09 05:29 PM   #37 
  - how does expansion within settlement blocs encroach on any more territory since 1994?  shira   Nov-07-09 06:05 PM   #41 
  - So the settlement blocs will only be expanding upwards?  azurnoir   Nov-08-09 12:33 PM   #61 
  - The point of the expansion is to have something to trade in  JDPriestly   Nov-08-09 02:56 PM   #68 
  - Israel never adopted it  varelse   Nov-07-09 08:28 PM   #47 
  - Makes sense to me. Pretty much stating the obvious IMHO.  Crunchy Frog   Nov-07-09 08:59 PM   #48 
  - One state is endless war.  proteus_lives   Nov-08-09 02:17 AM   #57 
  - no  bstender   Nov-09-09 01:40 AM   #70 
     - not gonna happen  cali   Nov-09-09 03:58 AM   #71 
        - *shrug* it worked in the past  Recursion   Nov-09-09 05:52 AM   #73 
        - When was this? nt  oberliner   Nov-09-09 06:14 AM   #75 
        - Surely yr not going to try to pretend there was never a time where there was little friction? n/t  Violet_Crumble   Nov-09-09 06:19 AM   #77 
        - From about 800 to about 1900 in our calendar  Recursion   Nov-09-09 07:20 AM   #78 
           - They were living under a colonial dictatorship with little to no civil rights  oberliner   Nov-09-09 08:58 AM   #79 
              - Andalus and Oxiana  Recursion   Nov-09-09 09:04 AM   #80 
              - Well at least now I know you are just joking around!  oberliner   Nov-09-09 10:00 AM   #82 
                 - Umm... no. Look up "Andalus"  Recursion   Nov-09-09 10:22 AM   #83 
                    - Wow - you weren't joking  oberliner   Nov-09-09 10:49 AM   #85 
                       - OK, I'll humor you  Recursion   Nov-09-09 11:06 AM   #86 
                          - Seriously inconceivable to me that you are asking this in earnest  oberliner   Nov-09-09 01:22 PM   #90 
                          - That's a bit nasty and hypocritical of you, Obie...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-09-09 01:31 PM   #93 
                          - I'm not asking, I'm calling his bluff  Recursion   Nov-09-09 01:42 PM   #96 
                             - I would respectfully encourage to read the books suggested below  oberliner   Nov-09-09 02:41 PM   #100 
                          - WTF are you talking about?  Recursion   Nov-09-09 01:39 PM   #95 
                             - I can suggest some books that might help you get more informed  oberliner   Nov-09-09 02:38 PM   #98 
                                - ROTFL  Recursion   Nov-09-09 04:13 PM   #101 
                          - You read the Disnified version of al Andalus  IDFbunny   Nov-10-09 06:49 PM   #112 
              - Yet again, yr incorrect...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-09-09 01:26 PM   #92 
                 - "You are" can be contracted as "you're"  oberliner   Nov-09-09 02:40 PM   #99 
                    - Yes, and you could also try addressing the topic for a change...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-10-09 12:13 AM   #102 
        - so what? this isn't then. it's now. and sorry, but the Jews lived as second class citizens.  cali   Nov-09-09 11:30 AM   #87 
        - Excuse me?  aranthus   Nov-11-09 01:50 PM   #113 
        - daft?  bstender   Nov-09-09 09:56 AM   #81 
           - No. Zionism is not a religious ideology.  aranthus   Nov-09-09 11:53 AM   #88 
           - reply  bstender   Nov-10-09 10:44 AM   #103 
              - its easy to see where your confused....  pelsar   Nov-10-09 01:24 PM   #105 
              - i already acknowledged  bstender   Nov-10-09 03:07 PM   #107 
                 - zionism above all was practical...  pelsar   Nov-10-09 04:38 PM   #109 
              - Answer  aranthus   Nov-10-09 03:20 PM   #108 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-09-09 11:58 AM   #89 
           - No, it was good old 19th-century "liberal" nationalism  Recursion   Nov-09-09 01:37 PM   #94 
              - interesting  bstender   Nov-10-09 10:55 AM   #104 
              - is reading history books so difficult these days?  pelsar   Nov-10-09 01:29 PM   #106 
  - delete wrong place  azurnoir   Nov-08-09 10:55 AM   #60 
 

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