Violet_Crumble
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Mon Nov-09-09 06:19 AM
Response to Reply #75 |
| 77. Surely yr not going to try to pretend there was never a time where there was little friction? n/t |
| -Palestine 'may abandon two-state solution'-- Dr.Erekat says. |
Mosby |
Nov-07-09 10:42 AM |
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The one-state solution is inevitable, but |
mix |
Nov-07-09 10:47 AM |
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The one state "solution" is never going to happen |
Mosby |
Nov-07-09 10:55 AM |
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There is some truth to it being a negotiating tactic, |
mix |
Nov-07-09 11:00 AM |
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Building more and more settlements(almost all of which are illegal) |
Ken Burch |
Nov-07-09 02:04 PM |
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will you please just stop it...you simply have no idea what your talking about... |
pelsar |
Nov-07-09 02:33 PM |
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They don't do what they do out ot antisemitism |
Ken Burch |
Nov-07-09 02:38 PM |
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Wow! That's lots of straw you got there. |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-07-09 02:44 PM |
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No straw. You were implying a position that Palestinians don't take |
Ken Burch |
Nov-07-09 03:48 PM |
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PLENTY of straw! You were implying a position pelsar (and otehrs) took (take), but didn't (don't). |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-07-09 07:34 PM |
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huh?...where did that come from? anti semitism?....from outerspace? |
pelsar |
Nov-07-09 11:17 PM |
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i think it will |
bstender |
Nov-09-09 01:26 AM |
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The one-state solution is at present impossible.. |
LeftishBrit |
Nov-07-09 11:48 AM |
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It's definately being used as a tactic... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-07-09 02:20 PM |
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The two-state solution at present is also impossible; we're left with one-state apartheid |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Nov-07-09 04:06 PM |
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It's unlikely right now because the Palestinian leadership |
Mosby |
Nov-07-09 06:06 PM |
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That makes it sound like Nutty is champing at the bit to arrive at a viable two-state solution... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-07-09 09:46 PM |
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Netanyahu said he would negotiate. |
Mosby |
Nov-07-09 10:42 PM |
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What's he supposed to be wanting to negotiate? |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-07-09 11:43 PM |
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How many states are there now? One |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 05:49 AM |
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There are lots of states there now |
oberliner |
Nov-09-09 06:16 AM |
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Sigh |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 10:24 AM |
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There is not a "one-state solution" - the fact that there is no Palestinian state is the problem |
oberliner |
Nov-09-09 01:26 PM |
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Yet again.... |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-07-09 02:08 PM |
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That's not what was said in the article... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-07-09 02:16 PM |
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It wasn't a quote from the article, nor did I claim it was. |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-07-09 02:20 PM |
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Where's the quote from, then? n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-07-09 02:21 PM |
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It's called an "irony quote." |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-07-09 02:27 PM |
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But who are you quoting? |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-07-09 02:33 PM |
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I am not quoting anyone, which is why it is called an "irony" quote. |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-07-09 02:35 PM |
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I added a bit to my post as you were answering, bta... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-07-09 02:38 PM |
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Doesn't change my response. |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-07-09 02:42 PM |
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Fair enough n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-07-09 02:49 PM |
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It's also an irony quote because, ironically, it has nothing to do with ANYTHING |
Ken Burch |
Nov-07-09 02:43 PM |
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Says the creator of strawmen. |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-07-09 02:44 PM |
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You've slandered me every time you've made that accusation |
Ken Burch |
Nov-07-09 03:49 PM |
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It isn't "slander." Look it up. |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-07-09 07:35 PM |
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Everyone knows the death of the two state solution would result in mass violence. |
Kurska |
Nov-07-09 02:24 PM |
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If you want the two-state solution to live, tell the Israeli government |
Ken Burch |
Nov-07-09 02:41 PM |
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I am the strongest supporter of Palestinians getting their own state as it is possible |
Kurska |
Nov-07-09 03:30 PM |
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As soon as it's possible and when will that be? |
azurnoir |
Nov-07-09 05:31 PM |
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that's a good question for you too....should Israel unilaterally withdraw now from the W.Bank? |
shira |
Nov-07-09 06:03 PM |
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Only if they don't want a one state solution. |
Crunchy Frog |
Nov-07-09 09:09 PM |
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and if the W.Bank turns into Gaza, so be it? |
shira |
Nov-07-09 10:53 PM |
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They could always maintain a military presence, but get rid of the settlements. |
Crunchy Frog |
Nov-08-09 12:43 PM |
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Depends on what the Palestinians decide |
azurnoir |
Nov-08-09 12:35 PM |
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You also support Taiwans' independence? |
IDFbunny |
Nov-10-09 06:30 PM |
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How can you say that with a straight face, when Israel refuses the SLIGHTEST compromise, |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Nov-07-09 04:12 PM |
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Israel removed every settler and settlement from Gaza |
oberliner |
Nov-07-09 04:24 PM |
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War without end. While the Palestinians proudly pout, the Israeli mouse eats the cheese. |
JDPriestly |
Nov-07-09 04:02 PM |
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Calling the Palestinian people fools is as bad as the poster who called Israelis cowards... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-07-09 04:05 PM |
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I have been watching this conflict since the early 50s. |
JDPriestly |
Nov-08-09 02:49 PM |
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I don't care how long you've been watching it for. What you said was a nasty generalisation... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-09-09 05:57 AM |
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Reality speaks for itself. |
JDPriestly |
Nov-09-09 02:11 PM |
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There is no justification for Israel to get a single inch of the West Bank |
Ken Burch |
Nov-07-09 04:07 PM |
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What about East Jerusalem? The Jewish Quarter? |
oberliner |
Nov-07-09 04:12 PM |
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where the Shepherd Hotel stands? |
azurnoir |
Nov-07-09 05:18 PM |
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Do you seriously not know what the Jewish Quarter is? |
oberliner |
Nov-07-09 05:51 PM |
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I was asking what you consider to be the Jewish Quarter n/t |
azurnoir |
Nov-07-09 07:40 PM |
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Your statement is baffling to me |
oberliner |
Nov-07-09 08:14 PM |
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nice map however didn't there used to a Moroccan Quarter |
azurnoir |
Nov-07-09 11:09 PM |
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Here is another map that may help you further |
oberliner |
Nov-08-09 04:59 AM |
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Your dodging my question I do not need another map n/t |
azurnoir |
Nov-08-09 10:51 AM |
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I am not dodging any question |
oberliner |
Nov-08-09 02:29 PM |
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i find you posts fascinating in an imaginative way....no basis in fact yet.... |
pelsar |
Nov-07-09 11:31 PM |
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The 1994 compromise was a big step. A Palestinian needs to |
JDPriestly |
Nov-08-09 02:53 PM |
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What compromise have they not made? What hoop have they not jumpted through? |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Nov-07-09 04:10 PM |
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The Native Americans did a pretty good job of "pouting themselves |
Crunchy Frog |
Nov-08-09 12:48 PM |
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Why is three state never given consideration? |
IDFbunny |
Nov-10-09 06:34 PM |
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Palestine declared independence in 1988 |
excess_3 |
Nov-07-09 05:00 PM |
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Where are you heading with this? That Palestine is a sovereign state? |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-07-09 05:24 PM |
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Erekat is very correct in assement |
azurnoir |
Nov-07-09 05:29 PM |
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how does expansion within settlement blocs encroach on any more territory since 1994? |
shira |
Nov-07-09 06:05 PM |
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So the settlement blocs will only be expanding upwards? |
azurnoir |
Nov-08-09 12:33 PM |
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The point of the expansion is to have something to trade in |
JDPriestly |
Nov-08-09 02:56 PM |
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Israel never adopted it |
varelse |
Nov-07-09 08:28 PM |
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Makes sense to me. Pretty much stating the obvious IMHO. |
Crunchy Frog |
Nov-07-09 08:59 PM |
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One state is endless war. |
proteus_lives |
Nov-08-09 02:17 AM |
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no |
bstender |
Nov-09-09 01:40 AM |
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not gonna happen |
cali |
Nov-09-09 03:58 AM |
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*shrug* it worked in the past |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 05:52 AM |
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When was this? nt |
oberliner |
Nov-09-09 06:14 AM |
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Surely yr not going to try to pretend there was never a time where there was little friction? n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-09-09 06:19 AM |
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From about 800 to about 1900 in our calendar |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 07:20 AM |
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They were living under a colonial dictatorship with little to no civil rights |
oberliner |
Nov-09-09 08:58 AM |
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Andalus and Oxiana |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 09:04 AM |
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Well at least now I know you are just joking around! |
oberliner |
Nov-09-09 10:00 AM |
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Umm... no. Look up "Andalus" |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 10:22 AM |
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Wow - you weren't joking |
oberliner |
Nov-09-09 10:49 AM |
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OK, I'll humor you |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 11:06 AM |
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Seriously inconceivable to me that you are asking this in earnest |
oberliner |
Nov-09-09 01:22 PM |
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That's a bit nasty and hypocritical of you, Obie... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-09-09 01:31 PM |
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I'm not asking, I'm calling his bluff |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 01:42 PM |
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I would respectfully encourage to read the books suggested below |
oberliner |
Nov-09-09 02:41 PM |
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WTF are you talking about? |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 01:39 PM |
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I can suggest some books that might help you get more informed |
oberliner |
Nov-09-09 02:38 PM |
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ROTFL |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 04:13 PM |
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You read the Disnified version of al Andalus |
IDFbunny |
Nov-10-09 06:49 PM |
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Yet again, yr incorrect... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-09-09 01:26 PM |
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"You are" can be contracted as "you're" |
oberliner |
Nov-09-09 02:40 PM |
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Yes, and you could also try addressing the topic for a change... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-10-09 12:13 AM |
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so what? this isn't then. it's now. and sorry, but the Jews lived as second class citizens. |
cali |
Nov-09-09 11:30 AM |
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Excuse me? |
aranthus |
Nov-11-09 01:50 PM |
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daft? |
bstender |
Nov-09-09 09:56 AM |
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No. Zionism is not a religious ideology. |
aranthus |
Nov-09-09 11:53 AM |
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reply |
bstender |
Nov-10-09 10:44 AM |
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its easy to see where your confused.... |
pelsar |
Nov-10-09 01:24 PM |
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i already acknowledged |
bstender |
Nov-10-09 03:07 PM |
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zionism above all was practical... |
pelsar |
Nov-10-09 04:38 PM |
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Answer |
aranthus |
Nov-10-09 03:20 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-09-09 11:58 AM |
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No, it was good old 19th-century "liberal" nationalism |
Recursion |
Nov-09-09 01:37 PM |
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interesting |
bstender |
Nov-10-09 10:55 AM |
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is reading history books so difficult these days? |
pelsar |
Nov-10-09 01:29 PM |
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delete wrong place |
azurnoir |
Nov-08-09 10:55 AM |
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