azurnoir
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Mon Oct-19-09 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #11 |
| 13. No their religons are not mentioned |
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Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 01:59 PM by azurnoir
but the mention in case more likely relates to Goldstone's ethnicity rather than religion and very likely occurs because Israel is the self proclaimed Jewish State and many of Goldstone's critics insinuate if not outright accuse him of antisemitism
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bemildred |
Oct-19-09 09:18 AM |
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m'thinks they do protest too much. |
sui generis |
Oct-19-09 10:18 AM |
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From the London Times |
Sezu |
Oct-19-09 12:13 PM |
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is there ANY criticism of Israel's public policy that is acceptable, ever? |
sui generis |
Oct-19-09 12:24 PM |
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read more.....and widen your sources..... |
pelsar |
Oct-19-09 12:53 PM |
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Of course I'm interested, subtle swipe aside. |
sui generis |
Oct-19-09 01:12 PM |
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UH excuse me. It was the UN which touted him |
Sezu |
Oct-19-09 01:28 PM |
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oh go for the ad hominem with me |
sui generis |
Oct-19-09 01:48 PM |
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let me help......it starts with comments like this: |
pelsar |
Oct-20-09 08:42 AM |
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the answers to your questions |
sui generis |
Oct-20-09 09:53 AM |
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so i guess at least one correction is in order.... |
pelsar |
Oct-20-09 10:23 AM |
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oh brilliant |
sui generis |
Oct-20-09 11:53 AM |
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LOL I was waiting for this angle in the smear campaign |
azurnoir |
Oct-19-09 01:30 PM |
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The usual Nazi comparison, etc. nt |
bemildred |
Oct-19-09 06:37 PM |
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What utter bullshit. Goldstone was way ahead of the curve |
HamdenRice |
Oct-19-09 09:33 PM |
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Is there any article written about Goldstone that does not point out that he is Jewish? |
oberliner |
Oct-19-09 12:14 PM |
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god forbid a jew should criticize a jew unless it's on the topic of having an opinion |
sui generis |
Oct-19-09 12:32 PM |
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facinating why is that? n/t |
azurnoir |
Oct-19-09 01:25 PM |
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Are the religions of Chinkin, Jilani, or Travers ever noted? |
oberliner |
Oct-19-09 01:48 PM |
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No their religons are not mentioned |
azurnoir |
Oct-19-09 01:58 PM |
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Does being Jewish mean you cannot be anti-semitic? |
oberliner |
Oct-19-09 05:25 PM |
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no, it means anything you say against Israel cannot be labeled antisemitic, biased, etc.. |
shira |
Oct-19-09 07:04 PM |
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No but it does make it a bit less likely |
azurnoir |
Oct-19-09 07:23 PM |
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the point is it's a shield against criticism..."if a jew says it, then it must be true" |
shira |
Oct-19-09 07:25 PM |
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Possibly but same question |
azurnoir |
Oct-19-09 07:27 PM |
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no - but he deserves zero respect for his dishonesty WRT the report and his response to critics |
shira |
Oct-19-09 08:02 PM |
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well Goldstne will certainly get no respect from you will he? |
azurnoir |
Oct-19-09 11:08 PM |
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he shouldn't get respect from you either.... |
shira |
Oct-20-09 04:36 AM |
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Already read that n/t |
azurnoir |
Oct-20-09 09:42 AM |
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and despite being aware of all that, you respect Goldstone - why? |
shira |
Oct-20-09 12:26 PM |
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you assume much and know little other than the propaganda |
azurnoir |
Oct-20-09 02:20 PM |
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how's about trying to lay off the personal jabs and focus on Goldstone's report instead? |
shira |
Oct-20-09 03:34 PM |
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If you do want to be "jabbed" do not presume to state my opinion |
azurnoir |
Oct-20-09 07:12 PM |
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Not really facinating, more par for course. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-19-09 02:11 PM |
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I think it is quite telling that so many folks feel the need to point that out |
oberliner |
Oct-19-09 05:28 PM |
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What do you mean by 'telling'? |
Violet_Crumble |
Oct-19-09 07:49 PM |
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I think it "tells" that they are concerned about relevant facts. |
bemildred |
Oct-19-09 08:07 PM |
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Yeah, if it wasn't relevant, I'd see it differently too n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Oct-20-09 05:00 AM |
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If he was a Muslim or Arab would that be relevant? |
oberliner |
Oct-20-09 05:55 AM |
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It is relevant to know the background of all parties to the investigation and the report. |
bemildred |
Oct-20-09 08:31 AM |
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Why would their religion or ethnic background be important? |
oberliner |
Oct-20-09 08:37 AM |
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Is that another rhetorical question? |
bemildred |
Oct-20-09 08:43 AM |
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Indeed it was! |
oberliner |
Oct-20-09 11:43 AM |
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So I've caused you some cognitive disconnect? nt |
bemildred |
Oct-20-09 12:07 PM |
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None whatsoever |
oberliner |
Oct-20-09 12:38 PM |
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I have learned not to trust my sarcasm meter on the web, unless the sarcasm is explicit. |
bemildred |
Oct-20-09 01:00 PM |
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Fair enough |
oberliner |
Oct-20-09 01:03 PM |
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I don't really believe in the notion of people being unbiased. |
bemildred |
Oct-20-09 01:10 PM |
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It seems to me that he was selected to head the commission precisely because of his background. |
bemildred |
Oct-20-09 08:46 AM |
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What is your evidence for that claim? |
oberliner |
Oct-20-09 11:43 AM |
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The fact that it is so continually mentioned, as you yourself have pointed out? nt |
bemildred |
Oct-20-09 12:08 PM |
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I've never once seen it mentioned |
oberliner |
Oct-20-09 12:37 PM |
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I refer you to post #3. |
bemildred |
Oct-20-09 12:55 PM |
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That he is Jewish is frequently mentioned, that he was chosen because he is Jewish is not |
oberliner |
Oct-20-09 12:59 PM |
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Well, I will skip the obvious pun. |
bemildred |
Oct-20-09 01:05 PM |
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I see the same damn thing in regards to gay issues. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-19-09 08:25 PM |
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Of course there are, though it's not particularly fascinating that others do... |
Violet_Crumble |
Oct-19-09 02:43 PM |
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Do you know what a rhetorical question is? |
oberliner |
Oct-19-09 05:24 PM |
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I've never had any problems |
Violet_Crumble |
Oct-19-09 07:45 PM |
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I didn't realise one could use rhetorical questions to avoid facts... |
Violet_Crumble |
Oct-20-09 05:38 AM |
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