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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. What mask?
As I have always made absolutely clear, I think that the foundation of Israel was both a crime and a catastrophe, and I wish it had never happened.

That does not, of course, mean that I want to see it destroyed - destroying it now would be wrong for exactly the same reasons creating it was.
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  -Civil Fights: The only state in the world whose existence is deemed negotiable shira  Jun-26-09 06:14 PM   #0 
  - Israel sure is like apartheid-era South Africa  provis99   Jun-26-09 06:19 PM   #1 
  - "Mr. Madison, what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things...  shira   Jun-26-09 06:34 PM   #2 
  - There seems to be some mistake - surely this article should be about Palestine?  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-26-09 06:38 PM   #3 
  - what do you think Palestinian RoR would do to Israel?  shira   Jun-26-09 06:45 PM   #4 
  - What makes you think that he cares?  aranthus   Jun-26-09 11:19 PM   #5 
  - Half right, half wrong about my views.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-27-09 01:47 AM   #7 
     - the RoR is not just a negotiating position  shira   Jun-27-09 06:22 AM   #8 
     - There is a huge difference in Pro-Israeli vs Pro-Arab  aranthus   Jun-27-09 03:17 PM   #12 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-26-09 11:23 PM   #6 
  - Regretable? Mask slipping?  Sezu   Jun-27-09 09:06 AM   #9 
     - yeah, Jews should have stayed in Europe, Russia, Arab lands, etc...  shira   Jun-27-09 09:51 AM   #10 
     - Here's a table you might find interesting...  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-28-09 04:06 PM   #17 
        - why do you think the non-jewish population increased so much until 1946?  shira   Jun-29-09 07:17 AM   #18 
     - Again with the "slipping mask" meme?  Ken Burch   Jun-27-09 06:11 PM   #14 
     - What mask?  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-28-09 04:01 PM   #16 
        - Don't you think the same could be said of most countries?  LeftishBrit   Jun-29-09 09:51 AM   #19 
           - Yes, absolutely.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-29-09 01:51 PM   #20 
              - Donald, let's admit Israel came into being by an International consensus rather than conquest  shira   Jun-30-09 07:11 AM   #21 
                 - "Israel was declared the national home of the Jews"......By whom?....  kayecy   Jun-30-09 10:11 AM   #23 
                    - League of Nations and then finally, the UN  shira   Jun-30-09 10:59 AM   #24 
                       - League of (which) Nations?....  kayecy   Jun-30-09 05:02 PM   #29 
                          - the Int'l consensus of that time period, just as the UN was in 1948.  shira   Jun-30-09 06:10 PM   #32 
                             - If you don't like it, just move to Jordan ........  kayecy   Jul-01-09 05:57 AM   #33 
                                - or what was partitioned in 1948 to Palestine, but rejected  shira   Jul-01-09 07:34 AM   #36 
                                - The West bombed Serbia to make it take back the Kosovo Albanian refugees......  kayecy   Jul-01-09 04:36 PM   #37 
                                   - so, relevance?  shira   Jul-01-09 07:09 PM   #39 
                                      - And can any Palestinian refugee return who can prove he is not hostile'?...  kayecy   Jul-02-09 04:42 AM   #43 
                                         - how do you go about doing that? where do you draw the line?  shira   Jul-02-09 05:29 AM   #45 
                                            - Where is the double standard?.....  kayecy   Jul-02-09 09:00 AM   #47 
                                               - Germans have been no threat to Czechs for a long time.....Paln's are still openly hostile to Israel  shira   Jul-02-09 10:26 AM   #50 
                                                  - The homeland proposals didnt materialize because the Zionists werent interested  kayecy   Jul-02-09 05:39 PM   #51 
                                                  - because during Ottoman rule, there was no movement to disenfranchise an indigenous people  shira   Jul-02-09 06:35 PM   #54 
                                                  - Palestinians wishing to return to their villages are not immigrants .....they refugees.....  kayecy   Jul-04-09 04:39 AM   #56 
                                                  - the originals from 1948 are refugees, their children are not  shira   Jul-04-09 05:12 AM   #57 
                                                  - You clearly need to read up on your Zionist history!.......  kayecy   Jul-04-09 08:29 AM   #59 
                                                  - please respond to my posts below before responding to this one  shira   Jul-04-09 09:25 AM   #60 
                                                  - What did the Zionists hope to do as a result of their 1905 decision to go for Palestine?........  kayecy   Jul-04-09 04:40 PM   #64 
                                - This is baseless nonsense devoid of anything factual and full of hyperbole  Dick Dastardly   Jul-02-09 08:54 PM   #55 
  - Don't you guys ever get tired of playing the eternal victim?  IndianaGreen   Jun-27-09 01:50 PM   #11 
  - Nope n/t  azurnoir   Jun-27-09 04:38 PM   #13 
  - better to live in denial?  shira   Jun-27-09 06:35 PM   #15 
     - And if one day in the future the Israeli-Arabs become a majority?  kayecy   Jun-30-09 10:03 AM   #22 
        - it'll still be the Jewish homeland  shira   Jun-30-09 11:03 AM   #26 
           - Interesting that you compare Israel to Arab dictaterships - Now try a western comparison....  kayecy   Jun-30-09 04:48 PM   #28 
              - so you don't have a problem with declared Arab nations with Muslim state religion?  shira   Jun-30-09 06:07 PM   #31 
                 - Tell that to those Jewish organization that ban other Jews becoming members .....  kayecy   Jul-01-09 06:06 AM   #34 
                    - again, you are employing a double-standard when you could care less about 'Arab' nations with Islam  shira   Jul-01-09 07:29 AM   #35 
                       - The Law of Return is racist discrimination.......  kayecy   Jul-01-09 04:47 PM   #38 
                          - it's positive discrimination based on Jews needing refuge and having nowhere else to go  shira   Jul-01-09 07:14 PM   #40 
                             - There is no such a thing on our planet as the idea that one has more claim to land than another  IndianaGreen   Jul-02-09 12:13 AM   #41 
                             - both have valid claims, ergo 2 states for 2 people  shira   Jul-02-09 04:22 AM   #42 
                                - 2 states yes, 1 state and 1 bantustan no.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-04-09 12:43 PM   #61 
                                   - what utter nonsense.......the Palestinians are not being offered bantustans  shira   Jul-04-09 02:12 PM   #62 
                             - Your use of the word 'positive' merely shows how 'Jewish-centric' you are...  kayecy   Jul-02-09 04:50 AM   #44 
                                - Israel allows non-Jews to apply for citizenship just as any other nation - try again  shira   Jul-02-09 05:32 AM   #46 
                                   - Lift your sights up a bit and try western comparisons for a change.....  kayecy   Jul-02-09 09:09 AM   #48 
                                      - that's the problem with double-standards....the european nations you mentioned don't have the same  shira   Jul-02-09 10:16 AM   #49 
                                         - There seems little point on continuing this discussion.......  kayecy   Jul-02-09 05:49 PM   #52 
                                            - you doubt the USA funds terror against Israel? here are just 2 examples  shira   Jul-02-09 06:23 PM   #53 
                                               - kayecy, now that you realize the West acts 100x worse than Israel, tell me please....  shira   Jul-04-09 05:23 AM   #58 
                                                  - If you read your supporting references you will see they make no such claim....  kayecy   Jul-04-09 04:21 PM   #63 
  - Mmmmm  LeftishBrit   Jun-30-09 11:01 AM   #25 
  - Israel only needs to be recognized as the homeland for Jews...orthodox or atheist, doesn't matter  shira   Jun-30-09 11:19 AM   #27 
  - The existence of all states and governments in the world is negotiable.  bemildred   Jun-30-09 05:17 PM   #30 
     - Just ask Poland  Ken Burch   Jul-05-09 01:52 PM   #65 
 

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