Ken Burch
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Sat May-09-09 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #54 |
| 55. A lot of people responsible for killing have gone on to lead states. |
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Barghouti is a supporter of a secular Palestine. This makes him a clear improvement over Hamas, and we all know that Fatah is so corrupt and despised by the Palestinians that it will never have popular support again.
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| -The blood libel brought up to date |
shira |
May-03-09 09:05 PM |
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Zzzzzzzz |
IndianaGreen |
May-03-09 09:10 PM |
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The hilarity of Shira accusing others of racism continues |
Chulanowa |
May-03-09 10:08 PM |
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May-04-09 05:30 AM |
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so being a pro-Israel zionist = racist? |
shira |
May-05-09 03:31 AM |
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Actually, yes, that's exactly what that means |
Chulanowa |
May-05-09 02:55 PM |
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wow. just wow. |
shira |
May-05-09 09:48 PM |
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Answers for your questions... |
Chulanowa |
May-06-09 06:03 AM |
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thx for the response but there are so many errors in your post - where to begin? |
shira |
May-07-09 08:56 PM |
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You could begin by trying to come up with thought-out answers |
Chulanowa |
May-09-09 10:20 PM |
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speak for yourself |
shira |
May-10-09 05:54 AM |
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No it isn't; that's exactly like calling all criticism of Israel antisemitic! |
LeftishBrit |
May-06-09 02:55 AM |
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That "small minority" is the one calling the shots and making the policy, though |
Chulanowa |
May-06-09 06:46 AM |
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From what source did you learn about the founding of the State of Israel? |
oberliner |
May-06-09 08:15 AM |
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Oh, I wish I had that kind of memory... |
Chulanowa |
May-06-09 01:32 PM |
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Here is the characterization that struck me |
oberliner |
May-06-09 05:11 PM |
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Well, the phraseology was harsh. |
Ken Burch |
May-06-09 08:29 PM |
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Thank you for managing to type out what I was thinking |
Chulanowa |
May-07-09 12:06 AM |
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And yet, that's what happened. |
Chulanowa |
May-06-09 11:55 PM |
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In the UK, they had a deliberate policy to break up Jewish refugee families. |
Ken Burch |
May-07-09 05:31 PM |
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The Palestinians never wanted their own state until 1967 |
Vegasaurus |
May-06-09 12:26 PM |
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You know, I was devising a nice meaty reply for you... |
Chulanowa |
May-06-09 01:38 PM |
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Tom Segev's book "One Palestine, Complete", says you're wrong on that. |
Ken Burch |
May-07-09 05:36 PM |
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so where was the cry for a Palestinian state in Gaza and the W.Bank between 1948-67? |
shira |
May-07-09 09:21 PM |
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Actually that was the oroginal point of al-Fatah |
Chulanowa |
May-08-09 06:28 AM |
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wrong again, jeez |
shira |
May-09-09 06:47 AM |
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The fact that you're equating the PLO with Fatah in a historical sense proves your ignorance |
Chulanowa |
May-09-09 10:34 PM |
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once again |
shira |
May-10-09 05:57 AM |
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But it was not a "liberation movement" that also included Israel's continued existence |
oberliner |
May-09-09 07:23 AM |
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And? Did I say it was? |
Chulanowa |
May-09-09 10:36 PM |
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They were as much of an "eliminate Israel" movement as an "establish a Palestinian state" one |
oberliner |
May-10-09 06:30 AM |
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And that has what to do with the rivalry between Fatah and the PLO? |
Chulanowa |
May-11-09 04:00 PM |
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Those fundamentalists wouldn't have had influence had not the IDF crushed the SECULAR Palestinian |
Ken Burch |
May-09-09 05:37 PM |
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Is life imprisonment not a suitable sentence for someone convicted of murder? |
oberliner |
May-09-09 06:39 PM |
#54 |
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A lot of people responsible for killing have gone on to lead states. |
Ken Burch |
May-09-09 06:46 PM |
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I agree with all of your points |
oberliner |
May-09-09 06:55 PM |
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Too early to tell as yet. There's a risk in releasing such people, there's a risk in ARRESTING them |
Ken Burch |
May-09-09 07:02 PM |
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Nonsense. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-04-09 12:13 PM |
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I love that you said "which we don't" n/t |
Bryan Sacks |
May-04-09 03:54 PM |
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the churchill play is nonsense |
shira |
May-05-09 03:22 AM |
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A Palestinian mother or father has all the same worries listed in the "one has to cope" paragraph |
Ken Burch |
May-05-09 03:38 PM |
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seems you're the one who doesn't care about Jews being stereotyped and libeled |
shira |
May-05-09 09:52 PM |
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Actually, yes |
Ken Burch |
May-05-09 09:59 PM |
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that's it? well that explains pretty much everything about your views |
shira |
May-06-09 05:29 AM |
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Ah, bullshitting the new guy already? |
Chulanowa |
May-06-09 07:20 AM |
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your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrogance |
shira |
May-07-09 09:12 PM |
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As usual, you have no room to talk |
Chulanowa |
May-08-09 06:15 AM |
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hard to take you seriously - just wondering if you take yourself seriously |
shira |
May-09-09 12:26 PM |
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Ever notice that your "routine" gets more laughs than mine? |
Chulanowa |
May-09-09 09:39 PM |
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can't do this anymore, you get the last word in okay? |
shira |
May-10-09 06:06 AM |
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I know that everyday Palestinian life is terrible |
Ken Burch |
May-06-09 06:03 PM |
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The other problem is your ludicrous belief that the use of brute force by the IDF |
Ken Burch |
May-06-09 01:11 AM |
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May-06-09 05:54 AM |
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Surely you can distinguish between "after" and "during"? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
May-06-09 08:17 AM |
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after occupation, it's likely Palestinians will stop violence vs. Israel? |
shira |
May-07-09 09:25 PM |
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It's a hell of a lot more likely than them stopping it while the Occupation goes on. |
Ken Burch |
May-09-09 07:14 PM |
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so you have no reason to expect an end to "resistance" once Israel withdraws from the W.Bank |
shira |
May-10-09 06:31 AM |
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Withdrawal in itself wouldn't be enough. There would also have to be |
Ken Burch |
May-10-09 06:46 AM |
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you must think Israelis are dumb |
shira |
May-10-09 07:52 AM |
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I'm making a distinction between the rank-and-file soldier and the IDF high command |
Ken Burch |
May-10-09 02:16 PM |
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I don't think Israelis are dumb. Too trusting of the generals, yes, but not dumb |
Ken Burch |
May-10-09 04:40 PM |
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do you read Haaretz, JPost, YNet, etc.? Israeli press is WAY more self-critical than |
shira |
May-10-09 06:52 PM |
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I've never given the U.S,. miilitarists a pass. |
Ken Burch |
May-10-09 06:59 PM |
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so riddle me this one |
shira |
May-12-09 06:22 AM |
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You know what the problem is? |
Shaktimaan |
May-18-09 04:41 AM |
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Well, as usual, some corrections... |
Chulanowa |
May-06-09 02:06 PM |
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My beliefs reflect the fact that you can't hold an occupied people to the same standards |
Ken Burch |
May-06-09 02:58 PM |
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That should have read |
Ken Burch |
May-06-09 06:22 PM |
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really? so occupied Palestinians between 1948-67 acted similarly WRT their Jordanian and Egyptian |
shira |
May-07-09 09:29 PM |
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There's an important difference, of course |
Chulanowa |
May-08-09 06:22 AM |
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Jordan annexed the West Bank and East Jerusalem |
oberliner |
May-08-09 09:06 AM |
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this takes the cake |
shira |
May-09-09 06:42 AM |
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Did you miss the part in parentheses? |
Chulanowa |
May-09-09 07:22 PM |
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Thos one does truly take the cake. |
Shaktimaan |
May-18-09 04:04 AM |
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Well, I disagree, but I am well aware that in a sense this goes beyond agreement/disagreement |
LeftishBrit |
May-04-09 12:32 PM |
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Not just nonsense there is also willful misinterpetation |
azurnoir |
May-04-09 02:26 PM |
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ANOTHER "Seven Jewish Children" thread? sheesh! |
Ken Burch |
May-05-09 03:35 PM |
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As Shakespeare said |
azurnoir |
May-05-09 04:09 PM |
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For any who actually want to SEE that play, here's a link |
ConsAreLiars |
May-07-09 12:47 AM |
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