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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 09:12 AM
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11. Here are some other Meir quotes that inform the policy of the state of Israel
If you are going to make claims about Golda Meir or Israeli policy based on those selective quotations allow me to share with you some of her other quotations.

The aspiration to peace is not only the central plank in our platform, it is the cornerstone of our pioneering life and labour. Ever since renewal of independence, we have based all our undertakings of settlement and creativity on the fundamental credo that we did not come to dispossess the Arabs of the Land but to work together with them in peace and prosperity, for the good of all.

Can we, from now on--all of us--turn over a new leaf, and, instead of fighting with each other, can we all, united, fight poverty and disease and illiteracy? Is it possible for us to put all our efforts and all our energy into one single purpose, the betterment and progress and development of all our lands and all our peoples? I can here pledge the Government and the people of Israel to do their part in this united effort. There is no limit to what we are prepared to contribute so that all of us, together, can live to see a day of happiness for our peoples and see again a great contribution from our region to peace and happiness for all humanity.

Our region is now at a crossroads: let us sit down together, not as victors and conquered, but as equals; let us negotiate, let us determine secure and agreed boundaries, let us write a new page of peace, goodneighbourliness and cooperation for the profit of all the nations of the Middle East.

* On 8 November 1968, Foreign Minister Abba Eban presented to the General Assembly of the United Nations a detailed peace programme in nine clauses:

- The establishment of a just and lasting peace;

- The determination of secure and recognized borders;

- Security agreements, including non-aggression pacts;

- Borders open to travel and trade;

- Freedom of navigation in international waterways;

- A solution to the refugee problem through a conference of representatives of the countries of the Middle East, the countries contributing to refugee upkeep, and the United Nations Specialized Agencies to draw up a five-year plan; the conference could be convened even before general peace negotiations began;

- The Holy Places of Christianity and Islam in Jerusalem to be placed under the responsibility of the respective faiths, with the aim of formulating agreements which will give force to their universal character;

- Mutual recognition of sovereignty;

- Regional cooperation in development projects for the good of the whole region.

To attain peace, I am ready to go at any hour to any place, to meet any authorized leader of any Arab State--to conduct negotiations with mutual respect, in parity and without pre-conditions, and with a clear recognition that the problems under controversy can be solved.
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  - Mcuhas as I despise Lieberman,  eyl   Apr-14-09 04:56 AM   #1 
  - Lieberman never belonged to Kach  henank   Apr-14-09 06:13 AM   #2 
  - There are allegations  eyl   Apr-14-09 06:40 AM   #3 
  - Kach's former secretary general says different:  Scurrilous   Apr-16-09 07:49 AM   #34 
  - When you step back and look at the big picture, Israel's trajectory has been tragic  HamdenRice   Apr-14-09 07:29 AM   #4 
  - I would dispute your golden view of 1967-76, which could be characterized as Labor's  ProgressiveMuslim   Apr-14-09 07:41 AM   #6 
     - I think those comments are taken out of context somewhat  HamdenRice   Apr-14-09 07:46 AM   #7 
     - Those comments speak for themselves. And you can't dispute the settlement activity of  ProgressiveMuslim   Apr-14-09 07:47 AM   #8 
     - The famous cut-and-paste Meir quotes again  oberliner   Apr-14-09 08:22 AM   #9 
     - Oberliner, do you believe those views didn't seriously inform the policy of the state of Israel?  ProgressiveMuslim   Apr-14-09 08:33 AM   #10 
     - Here are some other Meir quotes that inform the policy of the state of Israel  oberliner   Apr-14-09 09:12 AM   #11 
        - Like my mom always said: talk is cheap. The subsequent settler activity tells the story.  ProgressiveMuslim   Apr-14-09 09:20 AM   #12 
        - Settlement expansion became official Israeli policy when the Likud party took over in 1977  oberliner   Apr-14-09 09:40 AM   #13 
           - And it all began in 1967... as well you know. nt  ProgressiveMuslim   Apr-14-09 02:32 PM   #19 
           - Weren't the West Bank and Gaza Strip occupied from 1948-1967?  oberliner   Apr-14-09 04:13 PM   #20 
              - Must we go through this AGAIN?  ProgressiveMuslim   Apr-14-09 04:33 PM   #22 
                 - I am responding to your statement about it all starting in 1967  oberliner   Apr-14-09 04:45 PM   #23 
                    - No I don't. I think the Allon plan in addition to the settler activity in Jerusalem  ProgressiveMuslim   Apr-14-09 09:01 PM   #26 
                       - Here are some statistics  oberliner   Apr-15-09 05:42 AM   #27 
                          - I counted 25 settlements established before 1977; among them are the "worst."  ProgressiveMuslim   Apr-15-09 06:05 AM   #28 
                             - Wikipedia has the settler population from 1972  oberliner   Apr-15-09 10:08 AM   #31 
           - What about the Nahal?  azurnoir   Apr-14-09 04:49 PM   #24 
        - No-one with any knowledge would try to deny that Meir was intransigent and no dove at all...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-15-09 06:07 AM   #29 
           - Golda Meir, intransigent, no dove at all? Can you please name some Israeli leaders who were doves  shira   Apr-16-09 09:59 AM   #36 
     - Anti-Israelis often revert to false or out of context  Sezu   Apr-14-09 10:04 AM   #14 
     - Clear equivocation on Meir part here. Semantic obfuscation  Malikshah   Apr-14-09 12:29 PM   #16 
        - She has made numerous other remarks on the subject  oberliner   Apr-14-09 04:17 PM   #21 
           - Have you read 'Scars of War Wounds of Peace' by Shlomo Ben-Ami?  Violet_Crumble   Apr-15-09 06:10 AM   #30 
              - Have you read her autobiography "My Life" ?  oberliner   Apr-16-09 05:27 AM   #32 
                 - Is there a chance you'll answer the question I asked you?  Violet_Crumble   Apr-16-09 06:01 AM   #33 
                    - There was no condescension intended  oberliner   Apr-16-09 09:15 AM   #35 
     - Not one of you have touched the point: illegal settlement began in 1967  ProgressiveMuslim   Apr-14-09 02:28 PM   #18 
        - It may have begun with Chiam Herzog's  azurnoir   Apr-14-09 05:21 PM   #25 
        - Settlements began in 1967 due to Israel winning a defensive war  shira   Apr-16-09 10:12 AM   #37 
  - The salient point remains unchallenged: "acceptable" thinking vis-a-vis Arabs  ProgressiveMuslim   Apr-14-09 07:31 AM   #5 
  - K&R  IndianaGreen   Apr-14-09 11:54 AM   #15 
     - Facts on the ground. n/t  Karenina   Apr-14-09 02:09 PM   #17 

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