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Mon Apr-13-09 04:49 PM
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| 10. I disagree. As a land-settling colonial movement, that has never stopped colonizing land since |
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Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 04:51 PM by ProgressiveMuslim
1897... I think it's pretty fair to say this IS Zionism.
As always, I think you are very generous to Labor and Kadima. While being "pro-settler" may not be written into the party plank... it's stretching it to insinuate that pro-settler parties twisted arms since 1967.
I don't make that statement to be provocative. Land expropriation and settlement needs to end. I think it's time to move beyond a national liberation theology/ideology. It's time for you Zionists to become post-Zionists and focus on the state you have!
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| -Christian housing faces Israeli encirclement |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-13-09 05:56 AM |
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I ask everyone who calls him or herself a liberal or progressive Zionist... |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-13-09 07:09 AM |
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Land seized for military purposes would not be seized |
Sezu |
Apr-13-09 10:40 AM |
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there have hardly been missile flying out of Bethlehem - this land was seized |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-13-09 11:01 AM |
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What is dishonest and irrational is for folks like you to |
Sezu |
Apr-13-09 02:17 PM |
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Most countries only expropriate their own land, though. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Apr-13-09 06:27 PM |
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Further, most countries that expropriate land are required to pay fair compensation |
shaayecanaan |
Apr-13-09 06:50 PM |
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well exactly! Expropriating land that is Occupied Territory is NOT legal or practiced by everyone |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-13-09 10:26 PM |
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41%to 42% of the West Bank? Come on get real!! That is how much land is now off limits to the |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-13-09 10:10 PM |
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How to stop this? |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-13-09 04:36 PM |
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I disagree. As a land-settling colonial movement, that has never stopped colonizing land since |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-13-09 04:49 PM |
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So all immigrants are "colonizers"? |
Vegasaurus |
Apr-14-09 07:49 AM |
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Are we pretending Zionism isn't a colonial movement? |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-14-09 08:10 AM |
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are we pretending zionism was a colonial movement back in the Ottoman days, and the Turks decided |
shira |
Apr-14-09 08:23 AM |
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Zionism was a colonial movement from day one. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-14-09 09:24 AM |
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you must have a low opinion of the Turks then |
shira |
Apr-14-09 10:23 PM |
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Do accept the right of Palestinians to an independent sovereign state? |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-15-09 06:15 AM |
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yes |
shira |
Apr-15-09 06:17 PM |
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Interesting that the gov't of Israel did everything in its power to PREVENT |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-15-09 07:56 PM |
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interesting that the govt of Israel offered to end the refugee camps once and for all |
shira |
Apr-15-09 10:19 PM |
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Nothing like an AJC letter to the editor to serve as "proof" in defining |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-16-09 06:47 AM |
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If you attempt to supplant rather than integrating , you're a coloniser. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Apr-14-09 07:21 PM |
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so the Arabs who mass immigrated to Israel once there were plenty of jobs for |
shira |
Apr-14-09 10:12 PM |
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It's time to ..focus on the state you have |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-14-09 10:57 AM |
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While I agree with the two state solution, do you think |
Sezu |
Apr-14-09 11:16 AM |
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I think the first option is the one that will work... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-14-09 07:17 AM |
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Hopefully this will help to put to rest the |
azurnoir |
Apr-13-09 10:25 AM |
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a Zogby opinion poll of Palestinian Christians in Bethlehem |
Douglas Carpenter |
Apr-13-09 11:14 AM |
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Thank you for the polls although the results are exactly |
azurnoir |
Apr-13-09 12:03 PM |
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As always, crickets on the hard questions. nt |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-13-09 04:09 PM |
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you think this is zionism? |
shira |
Apr-14-09 08:07 AM |
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Shira, why is Israel stealing land from Christians? Can you answer that? |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-14-09 08:13 AM |
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you're assuming you know all the parts of this recent story are honest and accurate |
shira |
Apr-14-09 08:20 AM |
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This story isn't from the Electronic Intifadah. It's Reuters. And you can't respond |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-14-09 08:30 AM |
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See you in 2 days, which is when you usually pop back to get the "last word" |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-14-09 09:23 AM |
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Day one is gone. Perhaps day two... |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-14-09 09:02 PM |
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still here, PM.......and unlike you, I answer questions posed to me |
shira |
Apr-14-09 10:06 PM |
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LOL -- CAMERA is your unbiased sourced! Sorry -- just spit coffee all over my computer. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-15-09 06:07 AM |
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you asked, I supplied you with facts not reported in the OP |
shira |
Apr-15-09 06:00 PM |
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Shira, your CAMERA quotes prove nothing. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-15-09 07:57 PM |
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sure they do |
shira |
Apr-15-09 10:33 PM |
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Land theft justification #13: "BUT IT'S NOT BEING USED." |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-16-09 06:41 AM |
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Hey, the whole Terra Nullis thing worked for the British when it came to Australia... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-16-09 06:48 AM |
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Shira, is there any settlement in the West Bank that you declare illegal and immoral? |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-16-09 07:04 AM |
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what we're talking about is not a settlement |
shira |
Apr-16-09 08:23 AM |
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You don't consider Har Homa a settlement? nt |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Apr-16-09 12:26 PM |
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would you mind answering my questions first? I answered yours. |
shira |
Apr-17-09 02:11 AM |
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Arrogance, I'll take it because I can approach to fellow human beings, and |
Jefferson23 |
Apr-13-09 07:28 PM |
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