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Fri Mar-27-09 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 34. So Shira, do you consider what was printed above hate speech? |
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Or was your Amos Oz quote designed to buttress that POV?
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| -Candidly Speaking: Jewish blood libels |
shira |
Mar-25-09 09:09 PM |
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Just don't let any women sing around them. |
panader0 |
Mar-25-09 09:15 PM |
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About OP author: Isi Leibler is the single most corrupt and degenerate human |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-25-09 09:23 PM |
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LOL. This ought to be good. |
bemildred |
Mar-25-09 09:34 PM |
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I wuz gonna ask you to pass the popcorn |
Fozzledick |
Mar-25-09 10:38 PM |
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Like any good Bruce Willis movie. |
bemildred |
Mar-25-09 10:45 PM |
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Sorry, but I don't see how that applies to The Fifth Element or Pulp Fiction |
Fozzledick |
Mar-25-09 11:37 PM |
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A couple of my favorites. |
bemildred |
Mar-26-09 08:35 AM |
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Gotta keep them axes sharpened for them lying war criminal |
Sezu |
Mar-25-09 10:49 PM |
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And what's the distraction yr so bothered by? |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-26-09 06:50 AM |
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He admits he has an axe to grind. What's YOUR excuse? n/t |
Sezu |
Mar-25-09 10:32 PM |
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It's a betrayal of Judaism to criticize the IDF, apparently. |
geek tragedy |
Mar-25-09 11:05 PM |
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You've mixed your metaphors, |
henank |
Mar-26-09 02:19 AM |
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If it was gibberish that didn't make sense, how would you know it was bigoted or not? |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-26-09 04:53 AM |
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You wanted to know |
henank |
Mar-27-09 01:58 AM |
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As I suspected...it was knee-jerking... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-27-09 04:02 AM |
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The Likud Party was not in power itself during Operation Cast Lead |
Ken Burch |
Mar-28-09 05:41 AM |
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Which Israeli political parties are not driven by "Likud values" in your view? nt |
oberliner |
Mar-28-09 10:24 PM |
#67 |
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I would call Barak and Livni "quasi-Likudniks" because they view the security issue |
Ken Burch |
Mar-29-09 02:08 AM |
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Um, it's this abhorrent op-ed piece that accuses |
geek tragedy |
Mar-26-09 08:14 AM |
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It is truly unfair to invoke the "blood libel" imagery in this context |
Ken Burch |
Mar-26-09 04:07 AM |
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I've heard this many times before and not just about Israel |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-26-09 04:45 AM |
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Yeah, it reminds me a lot of US conservatives about the Iraq war... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-26-09 04:56 AM |
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Are Jews ever accused of blood libel? This is getting curiouser and couriouser. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-26-09 06:13 AM |
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Jews who criticize Israel are obviously Jew-hating anti-semites. |
geek tragedy |
Mar-26-09 08:13 AM |
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There you go again |
henank |
Mar-26-09 01:42 PM |
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If anything, this is one of Lieberman's principles. n/t |
Idealism |
Mar-26-09 02:12 PM |
#21 |
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The ignorance about Israeli politics displayed by those who |
Sezu |
Mar-26-09 03:41 PM |
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I realize that the Olmert government wasn't Likud; but isn't Leibler a Likudnik? |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-27-09 05:18 AM |
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He definately is and he's written an article about it.... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-28-09 05:13 PM |
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What exactly is a "Likudnik" ? |
oberliner |
Mar-28-09 06:36 PM |
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Likudnik almost equal judeofascist |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-28-09 07:58 PM |
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I've never come across that word "judeofascist" before |
oberliner |
Mar-28-09 08:42 PM |
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I disagree |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-29-09 03:25 AM |
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"A judeofascist is not necessarily jewish, nor are all right-wing jews judeofascists" |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-29-09 12:33 PM |
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I take it to mean a member or supporter of Likud... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-28-09 09:31 PM |
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Thanks! |
oberliner |
Mar-28-09 09:50 PM |
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Uh, didn't I just tell you what I think *likudnik* means? |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-28-09 09:55 PM |
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Well you had written "member or supporter" |
oberliner |
Mar-28-09 10:11 PM |
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Supporter - someone who supports.... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-28-09 10:24 PM |
#68 |
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Apologize for any annoyance caused |
oberliner |
Mar-28-09 10:54 PM |
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Bullshit... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-28-09 11:07 PM |
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I truly did not mean to annoy you |
oberliner |
Mar-28-09 11:26 PM |
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Fair enough... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-29-09 01:27 AM |
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Oberliner, a question... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-09 06:13 AM |
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Here is what a Likudnik is NOT: |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-29-09 06:39 AM |
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I don't think people know what they are saying when they use that term |
oberliner |
Mar-29-09 07:27 AM |
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I agree entirely. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-29-09 08:10 AM |
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The term goes back to Medieval "Christian" Europe |
Ken Burch |
Mar-28-09 03:02 AM |
#43 |
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More on Leibler |
azurnoir |
Mar-26-09 06:04 PM |
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Disturbing to find this Israeli-Australian puke dictating to America what to do |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-27-09 12:17 AM |
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He wasn't dictating to anyone what to do |
henank |
Mar-27-09 01:53 AM |
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I'm pretty sure you missed the point by a mile there... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-27-09 04:20 AM |
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Violet, this quote is from Amos Oz, someone you respect very much |
shira |
Mar-27-09 05:18 AM |
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more Amos Oz |
shira |
Mar-27-09 05:34 AM |
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Amos Oz isn't comparing the Palestinians with the Nazis |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-27-09 06:13 AM |
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So Shira, do you consider what was printed above hate speech? |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-27-09 03:05 PM |
#34 |
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no, I don't believe those comments by Oz were hate speech |
shira |
Mar-27-09 03:54 PM |
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I was talkinga about what Leibler wrote. Is that hate? |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-27-09 04:47 PM |
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let's agree if that's hate, then labeling Israel constantly as a Nazi apartheid racist evil state |
shira |
Mar-27-09 06:04 PM |
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I never compare Israel to Nazis, nor I do use the term genocide. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-27-09 08:39 PM |
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baloney. codswallop. you do both. it 's beyond belief that |
cali |
Mar-28-09 03:37 AM |
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Bullshit. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-28-09 07:31 AM |
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Every time I substantively address one of your nasty posts, I get crickets. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-28-09 04:58 PM |
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Stereotypes against either Israeli or Palestinian society is generally steeped in bigotry... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-28-09 01:35 AM |
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so using your argument about stereotyping I/P |
shira |
Mar-28-09 11:38 AM |
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I don't think the same applies to Nazism... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-28-09 04:23 PM |
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Nazism was a truly extreme situation |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-28-09 04:38 PM |
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Exactly.... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-28-09 05:01 PM |
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to answer your question, no, no one can really be compared to the Nazis |
shira |
Mar-28-09 10:21 PM |
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I meant that Nazism and German society then can't be compared to anything else...n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-28-09 10:25 PM |
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so you won't answer the question? |
shira |
Mar-29-09 05:53 AM |
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No, I thought I'd already made it clear... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-29-09 06:04 AM |
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okay, sorry - I didn't see that you answered it |
shira |
Mar-29-09 06:09 AM |
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But now yr comparing the Palestinians to the Nazis? |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-09 06:22 AM |
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no |
shira |
Mar-30-09 09:11 PM |
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Sorry, but you were... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-31-09 06:44 AM |
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sorry, I know what I was thinking and am still thinking |
shira |
Mar-31-09 08:47 PM |
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Yes, you were... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-09 06:20 AM |
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no, I didn't, and I'd appreciate it if you stopped falsely accusing me |
shira |
Apr-01-09 05:36 PM |
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But yr entire argument is an attempt to justify blind hatred of the Palestinian people... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-02-09 06:12 AM |
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can you admit that Hamas actions are evil |
shira |
Apr-02-09 06:18 AM |
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I don't do the *evil* label coz it's hyperbolic crap... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-02-09 07:13 AM |
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let's see if I understand you |
shira |
Apr-02-09 09:46 PM |
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No, yr not understanding me... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-04-09 06:31 AM |
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forget the "evil" label then, let's go with "sick and twisted" |
shira |
Apr-04-09 06:35 AM |
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Don't change the subject, Shira... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-04-09 06:54 AM |
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I believe that what Hamas does is evil |
shira |
Apr-04-09 07:47 AM |
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That's not what this sub-thread has been about...it was about SOCIETY... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-04-09 09:26 AM |
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I'm on topic, you don't like the answers apparently |
shira |
Apr-05-09 08:04 AM |
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For fucks sake, go back and reread this exchange! You are trying to change the subject! |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-05-09 06:19 PM |
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You think it's pretty damn simple? |
shira |
Apr-05-09 06:55 PM |
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Read post 94 |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-05-09 07:11 PM |
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you're contradicting yourself now |
shira |
Apr-05-09 08:48 PM |
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No I'm not as unlike you I understand the impact of Nazism on German society... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-05-09 08:53 PM |
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well you certainly don't understand the impact of Hamas on Palestinian society |
shira |
Apr-05-09 09:12 PM |
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Considering you don't even know the definition of society, that's rich... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-05-09 10:12 PM |
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do you know what a strawman is? |
shira |
Apr-05-09 10:44 PM |
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I do, but clearly you don't... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-05-09 10:52 PM |
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The problem is, shira, that, even if the Israeli government and the IDF |
Ken Burch |
Mar-29-09 07:01 PM |
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He's a disgusting right-winger but he's still not 'dictating' to America |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-27-09 06:17 AM |
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You forgot to mention that his writings are also bigoted... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-28-09 01:37 AM |
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He is certainly bigoted |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-28-09 03:36 AM |
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Jerusalem Post is owned by Hollinger International. A RW rag since Conrad Black bought it |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-27-09 05:00 PM |
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Defaming someone is a civil tort, not a criminal offense |
The Second Stone |
Mar-28-09 12:49 AM |
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I agree with your first sentence but... |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-28-09 03:43 AM |
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Proved in what international court |
The Second Stone |
Mar-28-09 12:41 PM |
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I suppose I tend to think that the term 'rogue nation' is rarely helpful |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-28-09 04:21 PM |
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"rogue nation", like "failed state" is a pejorative term, and usually used that way, to dismiss. |
bemildred |
Mar-28-09 06:06 PM |
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rogue state is also a technical term of international law |
The Second Stone |
Mar-29-09 12:10 AM |
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But mainly used for propaganda in the news media. |
bemildred |
Mar-29-09 08:55 AM |
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Small note: |
Idealism |
Mar-28-09 09:21 PM |
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Criminal Defamation Laws are rather common. |
Sezu |
Mar-29-09 11:08 AM |
#84 |
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