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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 05:57 PM
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30. If you ever see me claiming that Israel is the worst offender out there, please call me to task.

By "most", do you really mean "more than half"? Or just "more than I would like"?

But most countries that behave worse than Israel are not bankrolled by the US, or defended by DUers, to nearly the same extent.

To change Iran's or North Korea's policies, the US has to act, and it would almost inevitably do more harm than good (acting in Zimbabwe might conceivably be worth it, but would have high costs). To influence Israel, all the US would have to do is to threaten to do less. That makes it somewhere where the cost/benefit ratio of applying pressure works out more favourably than anywhere else in the world, I think.
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  -“Remove My Grandfather’s Name from Yad Vashem!” DogPoundPup  Jan-29-09 11:35 AM   #0 
  - How did you happen to come across this story?  oberliner   Jan-29-09 11:55 AM   #1 
  - here it is  Howardx   Jan-29-09 12:10 PM   #3 
     - Merci!  oberliner   Jan-29-09 12:20 PM   #4 
        - youre welcome  Howardx   Jan-29-09 12:33 PM   #5 
  - How does he know how his grandfather would feel  madaboutharry   Jan-29-09 11:59 AM   #2 
  - maybe you should think that through for another couple seconds.  iconicgnom   Jan-29-09 03:33 PM   #8 
     - ?  madaboutharry   Jan-30-09 06:13 AM   #11 
        - OK, saying it to you straight:  iconicgnom   Jan-31-09 12:03 AM   #31 
           - I think you need help for anger management.  madaboutharry   Jan-31-09 05:43 AM   #33 
  - That is a pretty powerful request, good for him.  Jefferson23   Jan-29-09 12:54 PM   #6 
  - The Holocaust and the Holocaust survivors got nothing to do with the current I/P situation  IndianaGreen   Jan-29-09 03:16 PM   #7 
  - We don't always see eye to eye; but I entirely agree with you here!  LeftishBrit   Jan-30-09 06:58 AM   #12 
  - Tell that to all the Israelis and Israel-supporters using it to justify Israel's actions.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-30-09 08:48 AM   #13 
     - Which Israelis and Israel-supporters have used the Holocaust to justify Israel's CURRENT actions?  LeftishBrit   Jan-30-09 11:09 AM   #14 
        - The continued racist immigration laws are the most obvious example, I think.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-30-09 11:46 AM   #15 
           - There is nothing racist about Israel's immigration policies  Mosby   Jan-30-09 11:54 AM   #16 
           - In what way is giving preference to one race over another in immigration rights not racist?  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-30-09 01:03 PM   #18 
              - Other countries don't even let Jews visit, much less immigrate there  Vegasaurus   Jan-30-09 01:05 PM   #19 
              - I'm not screaming because no-one is defending them.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-30-09 01:13 PM   #22 
                 - I don't even have a problem with condemning Israel  Vegasaurus   Jan-30-09 01:18 PM   #24 
                    - If you ever see me claiming that Israel is the worst offender out there, please call me to task.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-30-09 05:57 PM   #30 
                       - I'd be interested to see how Israel would dismantle the settlements  Vegasaurus   Jan-31-09 09:26 AM   #34 
                          - Hopefully less brutally than it demolishes nth-generation Palestinian settlements.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-31-09 10:23 AM   #35 
              - I would very much prefer the phrase 'fast-track asylum status' or similar to 'right of return'  LeftishBrit   Jan-30-09 01:07 PM   #20 
              - Israels ROR is based on international laws  Mosby   Jan-30-09 03:37 PM   #28 
              - No preference is given to any race over any other in immigration  oberliner   Jan-31-09 04:06 AM   #32 
           - In what way are the immigration laws MORE racist than those of any other country?  LeftishBrit   Jan-30-09 11:56 AM   #17 
              - "Scottish" is a geographical, not a racial, group.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-30-09 01:07 PM   #21 
                 - 'Jewish' is not a racial group in the strict sense either...  LeftishBrit   Jan-30-09 01:34 PM   #25 
                    - God no! Enforced population movements and partitioning and the like are catastrophes.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-30-09 01:40 PM   #26 
                       - Who said 'enforced'?  LeftishBrit   Jan-30-09 01:43 PM   #27 
                          - OK, that I can agree with, but it's the exact opposite of what Israel does.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-30-09 04:43 PM   #29 
  - I disagree with my brother's using our grandfather's memory  ABG   Jan-30-09 04:27 AM   #9 
  - Any chance of that in English?  Donald Ian Rankin   Jan-30-09 01:15 PM   #23 
  - Nauseating.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-30-09 04:29 AM   #10 
 

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