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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:23 AM
Response to Reply #45
49. "don't generally give a flying fuck about the safety of their own people"
I don't think they see Fatah and other Israeli "conspirators" as their "own people." How would we know? Where I do agree is without proof it is nothing more than conjecture, but it is interesting to apply a common tactic used on Israel and use it on Hamas.
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  -Amnesty Int'l: Israeli army's use of white phosphorus in Gaza is 'clear and undeniable' Scurrilous  Jan-19-09 01:03 PM   #0 
  - WAR CRIME.  cliffordu   Jan-19-09 01:05 PM   #1 
  - Crimes Against Humanity...........  PDJane   Jan-19-09 01:07 PM   #2 
  - Again its the legal fine print  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 01:16 PM   #3 
  - I don't know how their lawyers can wiggle away from the UN building  halo experiment   Jan-19-09 01:18 PM   #4 
  - But but didn't Israel say oops our bad or something?  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 01:26 PM   #6 
  - Yeah, OJ even escaped justice for a few years  halo experiment   Jan-19-09 01:29 PM   #7 
  - Its mostly a matter of intent  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 01:59 PM   #8 
  - I have been so disgusted with the NYTs over the years  halo experiment   Jan-19-09 02:11 PM   #9 
     - Read that one anyway. Its one of the few good ones on the situation with the shelling  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 03:21 PM   #17 
  - yeah, but dropping it on the UN compound......  PDJane   Jan-19-09 02:52 PM   #14 
  - I believe they will get away with it  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 05:15 PM   #23 
     - Of course they'll get away with it. The US will get away with the Iraq war.  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 11:34 PM   #71 
  - Is there actually any evidence  eyl   Jan-20-09 06:49 AM   #32 
  - I don't think wigglings about "fineprint" helps those burned by white phosphorous.  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 12:22 AM   #36 
  - Give it a rest .. they weren't using it against people.  cboy4   Jan-19-09 01:22 PM   #5 
  - Tell that to all the children that were maimed by it.  Arrowhead2k1   Jan-19-09 02:21 PM   #10 
  - Riiiight, because human rights only applies to the  cboy4   Jan-19-09 02:41 PM   #12 
     - Wow just wow. How the fuck does deploring the use of WP on people support Hamas?  Arrowhead2k1   Jan-19-09 02:49 PM   #13 
        - And what's laughable is you seemingly can't get it through  cboy4   Jan-19-09 03:18 PM   #15 
        - I'm excited? No, only you have imagined that I'm somehow glad Hamas will grow.  Arrowhead2k1   Jan-19-09 04:42 PM   #20 
        - You are accepting claims unproven  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 03:20 PM   #16 
  - Of course they were. You can't shoot into a crowd  sfexpat2000   Jan-19-09 03:27 PM   #18 
  - Acutally you can under the current LOW though police can not.  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 03:31 PM   #19 
     - Only if you use the law rather than your frontal lobes to guide your behavior.  sfexpat2000   Jan-19-09 05:09 PM   #21 
        - As I said in the post, the LOW need a serious revisit in a number of areas  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 05:13 PM   #22 
  - Yeah I know. Those Gazans are subhuman.  Crunchy Frog   Jan-19-09 06:29 PM   #25 
  - The point is the intended use, not the status of Gazans  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 06:43 PM   #26 
     - Your reliance on the "good intentions" defense is as pathetic as it is callous.  ConsAreLiars   Jan-20-09 12:57 AM   #27 
     - The reference is to what the LOW currently allows, and intent is a key factor  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-20-09 01:13 AM   #28 
        - You are fooling no one with that sophistry.  ConsAreLiars   Jan-20-09 01:35 AM   #30 
           - Try again  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-20-09 09:14 AM   #33 
           - More word games, trying to justify the slaughter.  ConsAreLiars   Jan-20-09 10:50 PM   #34 
           - This Statement, Sir, Is Nonesense  The Magistrate   Jan-20-09 11:34 PM   #35 
              - More blather.  ConsAreLiars   Jan-21-09 12:30 AM   #38 
                 - Best Wishes, Sir, If You Ever Fetch Up in Court....  The Magistrate   Jan-21-09 01:00 AM   #40 
                    - More nonsense  ConsAreLiars   Jan-21-09 01:44 AM   #41 
                       - Your Concession Of My Point is Appreciated, Sir  The Magistrate   Jan-21-09 02:31 AM   #42 
                          - Your concession of my point is appreciated as well.  ConsAreLiars   Jan-21-09 03:17 AM   #47 
                             - Are You Seriously Attempting To Maintain, Sir, Your View Is Not One Of Extreme Partisanship?  The Magistrate   Jan-21-09 03:59 AM   #51 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-09 04:46 AM   #54 
                                - You aren't neutral. Your pose doesn't become you.  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 06:15 AM   #56 
                                - Just a brief reply to note that the deleted reply was not mine.  ConsAreLiars   Jan-22-09 12:55 AM   #75 
                                   - Yes, it was your reply.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-09 01:08 AM   #76 
                                      - Oh really ???????  ConsAreLiars   Jan-22-09 01:27 AM   #77 
                                         - Yes, really.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-22-09 01:59 AM   #79 
                                            - Ahh, thank you!  ConsAreLiars   Jan-22-09 02:13 AM   #80 
     - It was certainly anti-personnel use.  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 12:34 AM   #39 
  - You don't think Palestinian residents of Gaza are "people"?  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 12:24 AM   #37 
  - WOW............  Marrah_G   Jan-21-09 01:11 PM   #66 
     - Sorry Marrah but I'm not here to make friends. I'm here  cboy4   Jan-21-09 02:40 PM   #69 
        - Understood. My mistake.  Marrah_G   Jan-21-09 02:44 PM   #70 
        - I see. You aren't here to make friends. I think it's sad, but also,  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 11:46 PM   #72 
           - My position is that if you're not comfortable with a wide  cboy4   Jan-22-09 01:28 AM   #78 
              - I'm not an acquaintance of yours. I don't want to be. n/t  iconicgnom   Jan-22-09 02:37 AM   #81 
                 - No, I was referring to the other poster. I have no idea  cboy4   Jan-22-09 02:42 AM   #82 
                    - I'm someone who thinks that Marrah will never be someone lacking for friends.  iconicgnom   Jan-22-09 02:52 AM   #83 
                       - Whatever you say Dr. Phil  cboy4   Jan-22-09 06:50 AM   #85 
  - Abject cruelty  democrank   Jan-19-09 02:28 PM   #11 
  - so far, the only proven illegal usage of WP was on an Hamas rocket  shira   Jan-19-09 06:16 PM   #24 
  - The evidence that supports that one rocket is weak  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-20-09 01:14 AM   #29 
  - Even the israeli government,...  Tripmann   Jan-20-09 05:49 AM   #31 
  - Are You Seriously Suggesting, Ma'am, Hamas Dusted A Few Gazans With White Phosphorus For Pictures?  The Magistrate   Jan-21-09 03:02 AM   #43 
  - Why is the idea of "false flag" not a possibility?  Behind the Aegis   Jan-21-09 03:09 AM   #44 
     - Hard To Keep A Thing Like That Quiet, Sir....  The Magistrate   Jan-21-09 03:21 AM   #48 
     - Oh, I certainly agree. I simply don't think it is outside the realm of possibility.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-21-09 03:30 AM   #50 
     - You have quite some unconstrained imagination, there.  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 06:20 AM   #57 
     - you're right, i have little to go by  shira   Jan-21-09 04:53 AM   #55 
     - Most things are possible, but many are not probable  LeftishBrit   Jan-21-09 12:16 PM   #64 
        - Just FYI: Hamas isn't right-wing  Idealism   Jan-21-09 11:55 PM   #73 
           - Hamas socialist?  LeftishBrit   Jan-22-09 02:53 AM   #84 
           - Compared to the region  Idealism   Jan-22-09 01:02 PM   #88 
           - um, so what?  cali   Jan-22-09 07:07 AM   #86 
              - Just correcting the poster, ma'am  Idealism   Jan-22-09 01:00 PM   #87 
  - Huh? Somehow that reminds me of all the false-flag conspiracy theories about terrorism....  LeftishBrit   Jan-21-09 03:13 AM   #45 
  - "don't generally give a flying fuck about the safety of their own people"  Behind the Aegis   Jan-21-09 03:23 AM   #49 
  - That, Sir  The Magistrate   Jan-21-09 04:02 AM   #52 
     - Perhaps.  Behind the Aegis   Jan-21-09 04:07 AM   #53 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-09 06:28 AM   #59 
  - You jump from this example to a suggestion that false-flag ops don't exist?  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 06:22 AM   #58 
     - They exist, but far more rarely than conspiracy theorists (on any side) tend to allege.  LeftishBrit   Jan-21-09 11:49 AM   #62 
        - and a "conspiracy theorist" is someone who doesn't agree with you?  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 01:06 PM   #65 
           - A conspiracy theorist, to me, is someone who believes in sinister plots without proof...  LeftishBrit   Jan-21-09 01:14 PM   #67 
              - Yes, we agree on that one. But for the other, in this case "conspiracy theorist" is just a slur.  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 01:37 PM   #68 
  - That's just delusional. There are miles of video of burn patients  sfexpat2000   Jan-21-09 11:55 PM   #74 
  - Use of white phosphorus in war should be banned altogether  LeftishBrit   Jan-21-09 03:15 AM   #46 
  - It is proven effective in a ground war, esp. one controlled from the sky  iconicgnom   Jan-21-09 06:30 AM   #61 
  - Israel admits using WP  Tripmann   Jan-21-09 06:30 AM   #60 
     - Thanks.  Scurrilous   Jan-21-09 11:53 AM   #63 
 

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