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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 01:03 PM
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33. Yes, one of several I like.
Also Gulf Times, Daily Star, Kuwait Times for news. The Saudi Press tends to be too "regimented", if you see what I mean, nobody wants to risk pissing off the King. Same somewhat applies to Iran and Syrian press. Turkish media can be useful. I used to like some of the sites in Pakistan, but they have gone off line or declined as things went to hell there. It would be nice to see Iraq media develop. The Egyptian government is not really efficient or interested enough to do a good job of oppressing anyone, unless they feel threatened.
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  -Abbas in limbo ProgressiveMuslim  Jan-19-09 06:24 AM   #0 
  - This is a must-read for all those who believe "moderate" Fatah is the answer...  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 06:59 AM   #1 
  - This is an Op-Ed piece out of a site that makes WND and INN look good  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 10:44 AM   #2 
  - Your ignorance is astounding.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 10:48 AM   #3 
  - Is it independent of the Egyptian government?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 10:50 AM   #5 
  - Couldn't tell you officially. They public a wide variety of PsOV.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 10:54 AM   #7 
  - Thanks for the info  oberliner   Jan-19-09 10:59 AM   #10 
  - They don't piss off the Egyptian government.  bemildred   Jan-19-09 11:37 AM   # 
     - I think it's a pretty interesting reflection of Arab opinion in English.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 12:51 PM   #31 
        - Yes, one of several I like.  bemildred   Jan-19-09 01:03 PM   #33 
  - No yours is...  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 11:57 AM   #24 
  - Do they ?  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 10:49 AM   #4 
     - You don't think Fatah and Hamas are separate entities?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 10:51 AM   #6 
        - Perhaps you did  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 10:54 AM   #8 
        - Didn't Hamas split with the PA in June of 2007?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 10:57 AM   #9 
           - The elected prime minister is Haniyeh. Abbas was president until Jan 9.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 11:02 AM   #11 
           - But do you think that Hamas is part of the PA right now?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 11:05 AM   #12 
           - I think the Palestinian Authority has actually come undone with the coup attempt in  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 12:50 PM   #30 
              - Is there an entity that you would refer to as the PA?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 01:14 PM   #36 
                 - I don't think there is currently a body that one can say accurately reflects the will of the  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 07:12 PM   #49 
                 - The rest of the world recognizes the PA and Abbas for now, Hamas is recognized by no one  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 10:28 PM   #50 
           - Who refused to participate in new elections? Fatah or Hamas  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 11:57 AM   #25 
              - WTF are you talking about?  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 12:49 PM   #29 
                 - Prior to hostilites breaking out Hamas refused to support elections  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 01:49 PM   #40 
                    - Wrong.  halo experiment   Jan-19-09 02:05 PM   #42 
                       - Hardcore doesn't have much use for the facts. nt  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 02:48 PM   #45 
           - No like Lebanon and Israel I believe  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:05 AM   #13 
              - What about Fayyad?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 11:07 AM   #14 
                 - Fayyad was declared after the fact I have read nothing that says  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:12 AM   #15 
                    - Abbas dismissed Haniyeh after the coup and appointed a new government  oberliner   Jan-19-09 11:28 AM   #16 
                       - That is an opinion not fact  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:31 AM   #17 
                       - It is not an opinion that they split and formed two separate governing entities  oberliner   Jan-19-09 11:37 AM   #18 
                          - But that Hamas is no longer part of the PA is an opinion n/t  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:47 AM   #22 
                       - Hamas is still listed as being part of the PA or PNA  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:38 AM   #19 
                          - Are you denying that there are two separate governments  Vegasaurus   Jan-19-09 11:41 AM   #20 
                          - There are two separate areas governed by separate parties  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:50 AM   #23 
                             - Do you see any unity between the two?  Vegasaurus   Jan-19-09 11:59 AM   #27 
                          - Governance of the Gaza Strip  oberliner   Jan-19-09 11:42 AM   #21 
                             - PA is based in the West Bank and is the only internationally recognized one  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 11:59 AM   #26 
                                - That could soon change  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 12:33 PM   #28 
                                   - EU, UN, Egypt etc are lining up behind the PA. However, new elections are overdue  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 01:09 PM   #34 
                                      - So tell us who is going to be removing Hamas?  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 01:11 PM   #35 
                                      - I hope they are simply bypassed and not removed the way they took Gaza, at gunpoint  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 01:42 PM   #39 
                                         - You are in la la land.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 01:51 PM   #41 
                                            - So you are conceding that your bubba doesn't stand a chance?  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 02:17 PM   #43 
                                               - Mark my words: no elections. Israel and the US won't take any more chances with  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 02:47 PM   #44 
                                               - Then we shall have to see what comes  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 03:15 PM   #46 
                                      - Are they seems that could change  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 01:23 PM   #37 
                                         - A unity government may not include Hamas, have to see  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 01:37 PM   #38 
                                            - If it does not include Hamas it isn't very unity it's unilateral n/t  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 04:08 PM   #47 
                                               - There are more parties than Hamas and Fatah. its not like the US with only two  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 04:40 PM   #48 
        - A definitive timeline of Hamas/Fatah split.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 12:59 PM   #32 
  - Fatah and Hamas arguably hate each other more than either one hates Israel  Hippo_Tron   Jan-19-09 10:42 PM   #51 

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