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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 10:59 AM
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10. Thanks for the info
Wikipedia claims that its content is controlled by Egypt but it has no source to support that claim.
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  -Abbas in limbo ProgressiveMuslim  Jan-19-09 06:24 AM   #0 
  - This is a must-read for all those who believe "moderate" Fatah is the answer...  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 06:59 AM   #1 
  - This is an Op-Ed piece out of a site that makes WND and INN look good  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 10:44 AM   #2 
  - Your ignorance is astounding.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 10:48 AM   #3 
  - Is it independent of the Egyptian government?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 10:50 AM   #5 
  - Couldn't tell you officially. They public a wide variety of PsOV.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 10:54 AM   #7 
  - Thanks for the info  oberliner   Jan-19-09 10:59 AM   #10 
  - They don't piss off the Egyptian government.  bemildred   Jan-19-09 11:37 AM   # 
     - I think it's a pretty interesting reflection of Arab opinion in English.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 12:51 PM   #31 
        - Yes, one of several I like.  bemildred   Jan-19-09 01:03 PM   #33 
  - No yours is...  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 11:57 AM   #24 
  - Do they ?  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 10:49 AM   #4 
     - You don't think Fatah and Hamas are separate entities?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 10:51 AM   #6 
        - Perhaps you did  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 10:54 AM   #8 
        - Didn't Hamas split with the PA in June of 2007?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 10:57 AM   #9 
           - The elected prime minister is Haniyeh. Abbas was president until Jan 9.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 11:02 AM   #11 
           - But do you think that Hamas is part of the PA right now?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 11:05 AM   #12 
           - I think the Palestinian Authority has actually come undone with the coup attempt in  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 12:50 PM   #30 
              - Is there an entity that you would refer to as the PA?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 01:14 PM   #36 
                 - I don't think there is currently a body that one can say accurately reflects the will of the  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 07:12 PM   #49 
                 - The rest of the world recognizes the PA and Abbas for now, Hamas is recognized by no one  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 10:28 PM   #50 
           - Who refused to participate in new elections? Fatah or Hamas  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 11:57 AM   #25 
              - WTF are you talking about?  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 12:49 PM   #29 
                 - Prior to hostilites breaking out Hamas refused to support elections  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 01:49 PM   #40 
                    - Wrong.  halo experiment   Jan-19-09 02:05 PM   #42 
                       - Hardcore doesn't have much use for the facts. nt  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 02:48 PM   #45 
           - No like Lebanon and Israel I believe  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:05 AM   #13 
              - What about Fayyad?  oberliner   Jan-19-09 11:07 AM   #14 
                 - Fayyad was declared after the fact I have read nothing that says  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:12 AM   #15 
                    - Abbas dismissed Haniyeh after the coup and appointed a new government  oberliner   Jan-19-09 11:28 AM   #16 
                       - That is an opinion not fact  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:31 AM   #17 
                       - It is not an opinion that they split and formed two separate governing entities  oberliner   Jan-19-09 11:37 AM   #18 
                          - But that Hamas is no longer part of the PA is an opinion n/t  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:47 AM   #22 
                       - Hamas is still listed as being part of the PA or PNA  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:38 AM   #19 
                          - Are you denying that there are two separate governments  Vegasaurus   Jan-19-09 11:41 AM   #20 
                          - There are two separate areas governed by separate parties  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 11:50 AM   #23 
                             - Do you see any unity between the two?  Vegasaurus   Jan-19-09 11:59 AM   #27 
                          - Governance of the Gaza Strip  oberliner   Jan-19-09 11:42 AM   #21 
                             - PA is based in the West Bank and is the only internationally recognized one  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 11:59 AM   #26 
                                - That could soon change  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 12:33 PM   #28 
                                   - EU, UN, Egypt etc are lining up behind the PA. However, new elections are overdue  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 01:09 PM   #34 
                                      - So tell us who is going to be removing Hamas?  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 01:11 PM   #35 
                                      - I hope they are simply bypassed and not removed the way they took Gaza, at gunpoint  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 01:42 PM   #39 
                                         - You are in la la land.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 01:51 PM   #41 
                                            - So you are conceding that your bubba doesn't stand a chance?  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 02:17 PM   #43 
                                               - Mark my words: no elections. Israel and the US won't take any more chances with  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 02:47 PM   #44 
                                               - Then we shall have to see what comes  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 03:15 PM   #46 
                                      - Are they seems that could change  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 01:23 PM   #37 
                                         - A unity government may not include Hamas, have to see  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 01:37 PM   #38 
                                            - If it does not include Hamas it isn't very unity it's unilateral n/t  azurnoir   Jan-19-09 04:08 PM   #47 
                                               - There are more parties than Hamas and Fatah. its not like the US with only two  HardcoreProgressive   Jan-19-09 04:40 PM   #48 
        - A definitive timeline of Hamas/Fatah split.  ProgressiveMuslim   Jan-19-09 12:59 PM   #32 
  - Fatah and Hamas arguably hate each other more than either one hates Israel  Hippo_Tron   Jan-19-09 10:42 PM   #51 
 

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