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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 05:39 PM
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9. Odds of a US President supporting Hamas, with its longtime and deep Terrorist ties, over Israel....
0%. Never gonna happen. Hamas wants to fire rockets at civilians they can expect swift and dramatic devastation.
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  -Will Barack call out the Israel BS on the Gaza campaign the way he did Bush's Iraq dissinfromation? Sensitivity  Dec-30-08 04:37 PM   #0 
  - I do not think the majority of Americans support this slaughter in Gaza - by a wide margin  chimpymustgo   Dec-30-08 04:41 PM   #1 
  - Modern dissinformation campaigns usually work in the short run. Any opinion polls you can link?  Sensitivity   Dec-30-08 04:48 PM   #2 
  - Do YOU have any opinion polls to support your OP???  chimpymustgo   Dec-30-08 05:20 PM   #8 
     - No. You may be right. I assume that a slim majority goes along with the MSM meme  Sensitivity   Dec-30-08 05:49 PM   #10 
     - And another reality is, the people (in both the US and Israel) are often at odds with their  chimpymustgo   Dec-30-08 08:24 PM   #13 
     - Often true, but often people do have reasons for their beliefs and positions  Indenturedebtor   Jan-01-09 02:58 AM   #34 
        - Normally I only shoot the person who threw the fireworks into my yard,  Hannah Bell   Jan-03-09 03:05 AM   #59 
     - Um... it was called the Iraq War...  demdog78   Jan-01-09 05:25 PM   #46 
  - most americans don't care. it's that simple.  cali   Dec-31-08 04:39 AM   #17 
  - If he tells the truth he'll be labeled an anti-semite by the Israel lobby.  baldguy   Dec-30-08 04:52 PM   #3 
  - He wasn't afraid to stand against the Iraqui War, was he?  jesus_of_suburbia   Jan-01-09 03:57 PM   #43 
  - not this time  bstender   Dec-30-08 04:59 PM   #4 
  - Other: Obama's hands are tied until 1-20-09.  AtomicKitten   Dec-30-08 05:02 PM   #5 
  - Indeed  Juniperx   Dec-30-08 05:15 PM   #6 
  - Very true, but it underlines his inherent weakness  PurityOfEssence   Dec-31-08 06:13 PM   #24 
     - I agree: Time will tell.  AtomicKitten   Dec-31-08 09:06 PM   #28 
  - Obama will not now, nor will he in the future, be an advocate for the  acmavm   Dec-30-08 05:16 PM   #7 
  - Odds of a US President supporting Hamas, with its longtime and deep Terrorist ties, over Israel....  RollWithIt   Dec-30-08 05:39 PM   #9 
  - And never mind that wee fact that Israel broke the ceasefire truce  LynnTheDem   Dec-31-08 03:26 AM   #15 
  - Provide a link... nt  RollWithIt   Dec-31-08 05:24 PM   #23 
     - I don't respond to demands.  LynnTheDem   Jan-01-09 11:07 AM   #40 
     - Try Huffington Post  demdog78   Jan-01-09 05:27 PM   #48 
  - But we fully support Communist China and their terrorism against their own people.  ShortnFiery   Dec-31-08 06:16 PM   #25 
  - "fully support Communist China" ??????  robcon   Jan-01-09 08:11 AM   #38 
     - On planet walmart... kmart... target..... meijer...  demdog78   Jan-01-09 05:28 PM   #49 
        - So, do you mean "support" = "we don't invade China"???  robcon   Jan-02-09 08:18 AM   #54 
  - Your narrative misses an awful lot.  High Plains   Jan-01-09 05:26 PM   #47 
  - Agreed.  Statistical   Jan-03-09 10:54 AM   #70 
  - Can't believe that Barack will do what Zbig calls "repeating slogans" on this crisis  Sensitivity   Dec-30-08 06:08 PM   #11 
  - It depends on what you mean by slogans. It certainly is not a slogan to advocate that the...  totodeinhere   Dec-30-08 06:14 PM   #12 
  - When did he call out Bush's Iraq disinformation?  PurityOfEssence   Dec-31-08 02:15 AM   #14 
  - I don't buy the idea that one can support Israel and not be following a "moral compass"  CreekDog   Dec-31-08 04:20 AM   #16 
  - The issue is the blanket of LIES constructed by the Israeli Gov. Contradicted by on the ground  Sensitivity   Dec-31-08 07:16 AM   #18 
  - you need to provide some evidence of what these "lies" are  CreekDog   Dec-31-08 07:39 AM   #19 
  - EG: illustration of Israel denying a practice of blocking medical relief efforts while agressively  Sensitivity   Dec-31-08 09:10 AM   #22 
     - So wait...  Hippo_Tron   Dec-31-08 06:56 PM   #26 
        - I guess you view all the reporters on the boat as liars including the CNN correspondents  Sensitivity   Jan-01-09 01:25 AM   #30 
           - I believe neither side at face value nor do I think anyone is necessarily a liar  Hippo_Tron   Jan-01-09 02:29 AM   #31 
  - Yes because when the Hamas spokesman the other day said that Israelis were launching rockets  Indenturedebtor   Jan-01-09 02:55 AM   #33 
  - Why not try having a less one-sided view of what's going on?  High Plains   Jan-01-09 05:23 PM   #45 
  - The OP has only allowed for a one sided response  CreekDog   Jan-01-09 06:24 PM   #50 
     - I am thinking of OUR SIDE not the other. Bagdad Bob was a liar. But that was not the issue  Sensitivity   Jan-01-09 08:15 PM   #52 
        - Look you made a poll with two choices, one contained the words "moral compass" and the other didn't  CreekDog   Jan-02-09 07:24 AM   #53 
           - Yes. One choice involves truth despite the political consequences, the other is PC  Sensitivity   Jan-03-09 10:20 AM   #67 
  - Considering that their rockets have killed a grand total of 25 people since 2001,  Hannah Bell   Jan-03-09 04:51 AM   #61 
     - The right number of unprovoked rocket attacks is zero  GoesTo11   Jan-03-09 05:37 AM   #63 
        - yeah, ok, whatever.  Hannah Bell   Jan-03-09 05:56 AM   #64 
  - Other: Your push-poll is funny. n/t  Indenturedebtor   Dec-31-08 07:49 AM   #20 
  - How many U.S. presidents since the foundation of Israel have stood up to them exactly?  cstanleytech   Dec-31-08 07:52 AM   #21 
  - Depends on what you mean by standing up to them.  yourguide   Dec-31-08 07:09 PM   #27 
  - They also launched the offensive because they were being attacked  Indenturedebtor   Jan-01-09 03:00 AM   #35 
     - Israel's response is the eqivalent  yourguide   Jan-01-09 08:37 AM   #39 
        - You forgot to mention that Hamas also refused the ceasefire - link  Indenturedebtor   Jan-01-09 03:44 PM   #41 
           - Digging a tunnel does not compare to killing people.  yourguide   Jan-01-09 06:54 PM   #51 
  - Neither! Obama's silence speaks volumes.  IndianaGreen   Dec-31-08 09:28 PM   #29 
  - Acts of war are dealt with harshly. I remind people of our actions in the "good" war against the  CTyankee   Jan-01-09 04:24 PM   #44 
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        - I wouldn't recommend anything from the Rys2Sense site  LeftishBrit   Jan-03-09 02:34 AM   #58 
  - By taking advantage of the power vaccuum, Israel's leaders have put Obama on the spot  depakid   Jan-01-09 02:44 AM   #32 
  - Is Hamas Totally Blameless Here?  Yavin4   Jan-01-09 03:25 AM   #36 
  - "Quite obvious"?  WinkyDink   Jan-01-09 08:06 AM   #37 
  - Haaretz, CNN "Disinformation, secrecy and lies: How the Gaza offensive came about"  Sensitivity   Jan-03-09 01:48 AM   #56 
  - Quite disingenuous!  Fozzledick   Jan-03-09 11:07 AM   #74 
  - I'm so sad that so many think Obama won't do what he did with the Iraq war.  jesus_of_suburbia   Jan-01-09 03:56 PM   #42 
  - No he won't . He'll issue statements of strong support for Israel  cali   Jan-02-09 08:23 AM   #55 
  - Someone upthread was wondering if there's an opinion poll out.  tan guera   Jan-03-09 04:38 AM   #60 
  - he won't do shit. nothing's going to change.  Hannah Bell   Jan-03-09 06:34 AM   #65 
  - If Obama screws Israel here, he will be a lame duck from day 1  GoesTo11   Jan-03-09 05:31 AM   #62 
  - They killed 435 people to "stop rocket attacks" that have killed 25 people in 7 years?  Hannah Bell   Jan-03-09 06:39 AM   #66 
  - He will be a lame duck from day1 LOL  azurnoir   Jan-03-09 10:28 AM   #68 
     - Not all diplomatic solutions are equal  GoesTo11   Jan-03-09 10:49 AM   #69 
     - Obama is not stupid  shira   Jan-03-09 11:05 AM   #72 
     - Obama can try every diplomatic solution in the book  Vegasaurus   Jan-03-09 10:59 AM   #71 
  - Obama isn't dumb enough to buy your pro-Hamas propaganda  Fozzledick   Jan-03-09 11:06 AM   #73 
  - Locking per I/P guidelines  Lithos   Jan-03-09 12:06 PM   #75 

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