OregonBlue
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Tue Dec-30-08 03:40 PM
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| 3. So just ignore that Israel stole their land and herded them into ghettos and you can |
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justify anything? Sorry but I'm not buying what you're selling. If the Zionists wanted peace with the Arab peoples, they never would have taken this land to begin with. Please don't try to rewrite history.
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| -In Gaza Conflict, Context is Key |
sellitman |
Dec-30-08 03:04 PM |
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Bombing away at everything that moves is terrorism, not self defense. |
subsuelo |
Dec-30-08 03:11 PM |
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Link? |
ellisonz |
Dec-30-08 06:21 PM |
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If Israel is providing humanitarian aid, |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Dec-30-08 03:18 PM |
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It is |
HardcoreProgressive |
Dec-30-08 05:34 PM |
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According to Democracy Now and several articles I read from first-hand accounts |
halo experiment |
Dec-30-08 10:32 PM |
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Between 1.5 to 3 tons are the claims. Seems excessive for a pleasure yacht |
HardcoreProgressive |
Dec-30-08 11:33 PM |
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If aid was really getting through |
halo experiment |
Dec-30-08 11:55 PM |
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It is at this point |
HardcoreProgressive |
Dec-31-08 01:42 AM |
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So just ignore that Israel stole their land and herded them into ghettos and you can |
OregonBlue |
Dec-30-08 03:40 PM |
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It's you who is trying to re-write history. |
aranthus |
Dec-30-08 04:06 PM |
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So the Zionists did not force the Palestinians into Gaza and the West Bank? So they did not try |
OregonBlue |
Dec-30-08 04:24 PM |
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No, they didn't. |
aranthus |
Dec-30-08 05:14 PM |
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This is not rocket science. Why do you try to make this a moral or religious discussion. |
OregonBlue |
Dec-30-08 05:49 PM |
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Maybe you better go look at the 1947 population maps. Jews were concentrated in very small areas. |
OregonBlue |
Dec-30-08 06:04 PM |
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Oh, the "Jews should have been put elsewhere" meme |
Vegasaurus |
Dec-30-08 04:14 PM |
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"The Zionist wanted to live where they had 2000 years of history" but there is a little problem of |
OregonBlue |
Dec-30-08 04:37 PM |
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This Veg, is the underlying belief on the left. |
sellitman |
Dec-30-08 04:41 PM |
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Truth is, the Israel wants the Palestinians to leave and the Palestinians want the Israelis to leave |
OregonBlue |
Dec-30-08 05:15 PM |
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The Israelis were willing to live with the Palestinians, remember? |
Vegasaurus |
Dec-30-08 06:32 PM |
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Accepting the partition then building an Apartheid Wall |
halo experiment |
Dec-30-08 08:28 PM |
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There was no wall until suicide bombers starting killing hundreds of Israelis |
Vegasaurus |
Dec-31-08 07:08 AM |
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Shocking, isn't it? |
Vegasaurus |
Dec-30-08 06:34 PM |
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Why is it shocking? |
dmesg |
Dec-31-08 04:09 AM |
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But I don't suppose you mind the 22 Muslim countries surrounding israel |
Vegasaurus |
Dec-31-08 07:06 AM |
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Ding ding! Strawman award goes to you! |
dmesg |
Dec-31-08 10:04 AM |
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There is a term for this kind of thought process. |
sellitman |
Dec-31-08 03:45 PM |
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Your argument for the dismemberment of Israel is sad. |
sellitman |
Dec-31-08 08:19 AM |
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I love the smell of condescension in the morning |
dmesg |
Dec-31-08 10:09 AM |
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How are pointing out facts strawmen? |
Vegasaurus |
Dec-31-08 10:36 AM |
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I don't think that's true. There are always the few who, because of ignorance |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-31-08 01:01 AM |
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What land are you talking about? If you're talking about the settlements |
cali |
Dec-30-08 04:20 PM |
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Why, they were living in all of Israel. Why should they settle for a partition? What justification |
OregonBlue |
Dec-30-08 04:30 PM |
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So you're admitting the Arabs/Palestinians started the war in 1947? |
ellisonz |
Dec-30-08 06:36 PM |
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Fucking educate yourself. The Jews took nothing. |
cali |
Dec-30-08 10:05 PM |
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I posted a non-partisan (I hope) action thread in GD: |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-30-08 03:42 PM |
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Half-truths, distortions, and outright propaganda |
halo experiment |
Dec-30-08 03:44 PM |
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Let's say angry Mexicans in Tijuana... |
spin |
Dec-30-08 03:48 PM |
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Why are the Mexicans shooting rockets at San Diego? |
bemildred |
Dec-30-08 03:59 PM |
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Would you suggest that Isreal... |
spin |
Dec-30-08 10:41 PM |
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The two situation are not the same, although the similarities you refer to are good enough. |
bemildred |
Dec-30-08 11:10 PM |
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The solution may be more difficutlt... |
spin |
Dec-31-08 12:24 AM |
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If we stole Tijuana and walled it in and cut it off from the rest of the world and refused to allow |
OregonBlue |
Dec-30-08 03:59 PM |
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History is complicated.... |
spin |
Dec-31-08 12:14 AM |
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Yes, indeed, control the context and you control the message. nt |
bemildred |
Dec-30-08 03:48 PM |
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Trying to control contex but |
azurnoir |
Dec-30-08 04:17 PM |
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Hamas and the Israeli government are twins -- their actions support each other. |
damntexdem |
Dec-30-08 04:19 PM |
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Hamas is worth more to Israeli politicos as bad guys |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-30-08 04:58 PM |
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Reasonable Palestinians? |
GoesTo11 |
Dec-31-08 02:51 AM |
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Abbas didn't leave Hamas in charge of Gaza |
Vegasaurus |
Dec-31-08 04:03 PM |
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