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Prepostericity Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:25 PM
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16. This is not an eye for an eye
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 11:37 PM by Prepostericity
Picture the New York Yankees with weapons, and you have Israel.

18 Israelis killed in 8 years or so from Hamas mortar attacks? 355 Palestinians killed in days?

Many Israelis are upset with their fascist military decisions. Palestinians are not rejecting their government due to barbaric Israeli attacks. But I guess when the #1 super bomber the USA can do the same kind of embargo crap like with Iraq, then friggen bombed the f out of them, none of us are innocent.

I'm curious of Obama's reaction to this. I realise he picked a chief of staff pro-Israel. I bet there could be some political movement in Israel. Knock on wood there is a return to sanity and peace and love.

It's like that line from Platoon. The enemy is us.
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  -"Many Gaza dead are civilians"... They're ALL civilians, LynnTheDem  Dec-29-08 11:08 PM   #0 
  - Good luck with fixing the MSM  Hydra   Dec-29-08 11:09 PM   #1 
  - And some of them are civilians like Mohammed Atta was a civilian  rockymountaindem   Dec-29-08 11:11 PM   #2 
  - Thank goodness that these militants can be identified from the air  Orrex   Dec-29-08 11:13 PM   #3 
  - So we invaded Afghanistan because....  rockymountaindem   Dec-29-08 11:17 PM   #10 
     - Don't ask me--I wasn't consulted during the policy meeting  Orrex   Dec-29-08 11:19 PM   #12 
        - Well, since we also targeted terrorists from the air  rockymountaindem   Dec-29-08 11:22 PM   #14 
           - Yes, you got that absolutely right.  High Plains   Dec-29-08 11:28 PM   #17 
           - Newsflash: our country is guilty of war crimes  halo experiment   Dec-29-08 11:28 PM   #18 
           - Again, don't ask me--I don't set DU policy  Orrex   Dec-29-08 11:29 PM   #21 
  - Well if you are wearing a graduation cap, you are a student  halo experiment   Dec-29-08 11:13 PM   #5 
  - They were Hamas police officer graduation ceremonies  oberliner   Dec-29-08 11:22 PM   #15 
     - The other part that left out was that a good deal of them  azurnoir   Dec-30-08 12:51 AM   #55 
  - All Palestinians can be redefined as terrorists, right?  JackRiddler   Dec-29-08 11:14 PM   #7 
  - Pakistan funneled money to Atta . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-29-08 11:53 PM   #33 
  - Technically you are wrong  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-29-08 11:13 PM   #4 
  - Police forces under the UN guidelines are considered civilians  halo experiment   Dec-29-08 11:14 PM   #6 
     - Read ICRC... And by the way, they are considered PARAMILITARIES  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-29-08 11:16 PM   #9 
        - But it was a graduation ceremony meaning  azurnoir   Dec-30-08 01:02 AM   #58 
  - Hamas has an armed military wing called the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades  oberliner   Dec-29-08 11:15 PM   #8 
  - But apparently because Israel can't be 100% sure of only killing them  rockymountaindem   Dec-29-08 11:18 PM   #11 
  - False dichotomy  Orrex   Dec-29-08 11:20 PM   #13 
  - Here is another reality check, which I happen to hate Iand this applies whether  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-29-08 11:28 PM   #19 
     - You're right  rockymountaindem   Dec-29-08 11:32 PM   #22 
     - I meant this to Orrex, but you understand this, and I realized this  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-29-08 11:37 PM   #24 
     - Option three would be to stop treating Hamas as a military target  Chulanowa   Dec-30-08 02:55 AM   #62 
     - Here's a simple way to handle a military target sandwiched between two civilian targets  Orrex   Dec-29-08 11:35 PM   #23 
        - Following a policy like that would only encourage militants to ensconce themselves in civilian areas  rockymountaindem   Dec-29-08 11:40 PM   #26 
        - Is the alternative to kill scores of civilians?  Orrex   Dec-29-08 11:44 PM   #28 
           - The cops do, regularly  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-29-08 11:47 PM   #30 
        - I just explained the reality  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-29-08 11:42 PM   #27 
           - Right, right. You're cool and rational and I'm a crazy hot-head  Orrex   Dec-29-08 11:48 PM   #31 
              - Your posts are those driven by emotion  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-29-08 11:57 PM   #37 
                 - And yours are choked with patronizing insult, but who's counting?  Orrex   Dec-30-08 12:05 AM   #40 
                    - I get tired of the willful ignorance on this, and other subjects  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-30-08 12:21 AM   #49 
                       - I can't quite see where you answered my question there  Orrex   Dec-30-08 12:26 AM   #50 
                          - If I had my way, there would be no fighting, alas in the real world that will not happen  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-30-08 12:41 AM   #52 
                             - Bully for Israel. That means they've only killed 40+ Palestinian civilians  Orrex   Dec-30-08 12:49 AM   #54 
  - This is not an eye for an eye  Prepostericity   Dec-29-08 11:25 PM   #16 
  - and I'm sure it compares with the joint Israel/US defense production . . .  defendandprotect   Dec-29-08 11:55 PM   #36 
  - This is rather disingenuous  anigbrowl   Dec-29-08 11:28 PM   #20 
  - what you just said  Prepostericity   Dec-29-08 11:38 PM   #25 
  - Gaza Strip is being denied food and medicine, etc. -- Israel is a nuclear nation -- !!!  defendandprotect   Dec-29-08 11:59 PM   #38 
     - That has nothing to do with the point I was making.  anigbrowl   Dec-30-08 12:11 AM   #42 
  - Civilians don't launch rocket attacks  gravity   Dec-29-08 11:46 PM   #29 
  - women and children  Prepostericity   Dec-29-08 11:54 PM   #34 
  - Nixon armed right-wing fundamentalist Israelis, thereby burying the liberal-left wing  defendandprotect   Dec-30-08 12:01 AM   #39 
  - I agree with this  Prepostericity   Dec-30-08 12:08 AM   #41 
     - Right . . . and about time we questioned all of this ....  defendandprotect   Dec-30-08 12:36 AM   #51 
  - The university targets seem to clearly be valid, they were weapon development sites  HardcoreProgressive   Dec-30-08 12:18 AM   #46 
  - They are upset from the suicide bombers and rocket attacks they have to deal with  gravity   Dec-30-08 12:21 AM   #48 
  - ...  LynnTheDem   Dec-29-08 11:54 PM   #35 
     - Well, that was informative  anigbrowl   Dec-30-08 12:12 AM   #43 
  - I guess they just wear uniforms and carry weapons as a fashion statement  Fozzledick   Dec-29-08 11:48 PM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-30-08 12:13 AM   #44 
  - Wow you just made killing children in Gaza OK  azurnoir   Dec-30-08 12:57 AM   #57 
     - Let's discuss when you are sober.  deaniac21   Dec-30-08 01:58 AM   #61 
  - Your snark doesn't improve the quality of discussion.  anigbrowl   Dec-30-08 12:13 AM   #45 
  - Current estimates from Palestinian media is 80% Hamas  HardcoreProgressive   Dec-30-08 12:20 AM   #47 
  - So if someone is employed by Hamas (eg civil servants) or a member they're not a civilian?  Violet_Crumble   Dec-30-08 12:48 AM   #53 
     - Their acceptance of that argument would place a precedent  Alamuti Lotus   Dec-30-08 12:55 AM   #56 
        - Veterans don't count as current agents of the states.  Kurska   Dec-30-08 01:34 AM   #60 
  - You're defining men who act as the enforcer of a area and whose job it is to fight invaders  Kurska   Dec-30-08 01:33 AM   #59 
  - But they still have combatants  LeftishBrit   Dec-30-08 03:37 AM   #63 
  - Locking per I/P Guidelines  undergroundrailroad   Dec-30-08 05:09 AM   #64 
 

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