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captainamerica101 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #39
68. No Way! PRAY ALL YOU FEEL THE NEED TO!
Agh, again with the nit-picking on trivial details like "how much" the U.S. assisted in the formation and desires of Israel from 1947 on!

Okay fine, my friend.
No American troops fought in 1947-9.
No American weapons were used in 1947-9.
No American has ever "fought" there. (I wrongly believed we helped the Israeli's fight their way in and THEN we backed out never to fight again for fear of the political repercussions.)

But can YOU my friend say that America was not "informed" of what was to about to occur in these same years?

America practically created the U.N. that (very soon after) said Israel should be right about here (pointing to map).

We are arguing "degrees of American help" I guess then, and America HAS vetoed almost any resolutions condemming Israel since day 1. (With a few squeakers making it through though against Israel.)

And sometimes my friend even you have to KNOW that "political support" (open or silent support) is what matters MOST when you are driving people out like cattle for 60 years like Israel has.

America WAS complicit in 1947, (if not directly fighting), period.
I'll just stick with that then.

Can YOU name ONE area where Israel has political, economic, or military value to the USA in return?

Please do not give me that Cold War "they are guarding the oil" either.

We all know that if America truly wanted to drill some geo-thermals like Denmark has, or build some tidal plants like Britian has, or wind-farms on the ocean like (I forget who) has, but the USA could sink so many wells and build so many of these other things in just 5 years (with the 2.7 million Bush unemployed) that America would not NEED oil EVER!

Half the time I think the oil over there in the Mid-East is just a excuse (meant for the world to cry about) while we "meddle" with the economies of our enemies far more often than anything else, you know?

Seems to me, if you turn your back on the dollar, you are going to get invaded PERIOD (Panama, Iraq, e.t.c.)
We want that dollar "in place" at any cost and that is why I want Dean to be elected President to get us out of this circle.

The world is loing patience with us in defending Israel for no good reason. We have to dump them as dead wood soon!

I mean, sooner or later they have to get off American welfare anyway right?
Sink or swim Israel.
Sink or swim.







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  -Gunmen kill Israelis in West Bank hussar  Oct-19-03 02:02 PM   #0 
  - Wouldn't you shoot Chinese troops invading Washington D.C.?!  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 02:43 PM   #1 
  - Only it's not  Gimel   Oct-19-03 03:01 PM   #2 
     - "It isn't the same"?! WOW THAT'S RICH!  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 03:35 PM   #4 
     - Millions Of Homes, Sir?  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 04:02 PM   #8 
        - I smell an insult!  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 04:26 PM   #9 
        - Let's see...  Darranar   Oct-19-03 04:40 PM   #11 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-19-03 05:37 PM   #23 
           - ???  Darranar   Oct-19-03 05:53 PM   #26 
           - Concerning Wapons, Mr. Darranar  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 06:07 PM   #31 
           - Concerning 1973...  Darranar   Oct-19-03 06:12 PM   #33 
           - Yes, Sir  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 06:29 PM   #37 
           - Weaponty Magistrate?  captainamerica101   Oct-20-03 03:36 AM   #72 
           - No, we are not that far off, are we?  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 06:27 PM   #36 
              - Uh, okay...  Darranar   Oct-19-03 06:36 PM   #38 
              - Would you settle for 1 million then?  captainamerica101   Oct-20-03 01:02 AM   #65 
                 - You Are Not Haggling In A Carpet Shop, Dear  The Magistrate   Oct-20-03 01:08 AM   #66 
                    - Seems like I am in a carpet shop here.  captainamerica101   Oct-20-03 02:06 AM   #69 
              - A Glutton For Punishment, It Seems  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 06:40 PM   #39 
                 - No Way! PRAY ALL YOU FEEL THE NEED TO!  captainamerica101   Oct-20-03 01:37 AM   #68 
           - Just A Few Small Points, Fellow  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 05:55 PM   #27 
           - Again with the insult! I said keep it clean PLEASE  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 06:44 PM   #40 
              - Another "trivialty"  Darranar   Oct-19-03 06:52 PM   #41 
              - 2 out of 3 ain't bad  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 09:52 PM   #52 
                 - No he won't...  Darranar   Oct-19-03 09:53 PM   #53 
                 - Dean on the Middle East - Israel  Gimel   Oct-20-03 07:27 AM   #82 
                    - THAT HURT GIMEL.  captainamerica101   Oct-20-03 07:47 PM   #100 
                       - Vote Kucinich.  Darranar   Oct-20-03 07:51 PM   #102 
              - Insult, Dear?  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 07:08 PM   #42 
                 - Yes truly.  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 10:31 PM   #54 
                    - That Mellisa Sure Is A Lucky Gal, Sweetheart  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 10:41 PM   #55 
                       - Hah! I'd ask her that one because I am not so sure.  captainamerica101   Oct-20-03 12:05 AM   #61 
           - Mr. America  Lithos   Oct-19-03 06:22 PM   #35 
              - Lithos... No Way! I am innocent buddy!  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 11:51 PM   #58 
              - Them Pesky Figures, Dear  The Magistrate   Oct-20-03 12:14 AM   #62 
                 - SEMANTICS! SEMANTICS! SEMANTICS!  captainamerica101   Oct-20-03 02:25 AM   #70 
                    - Semantics, Dear  The Magistrate   Oct-20-03 02:22 PM   #93 
                    - So you don't care about facts?  Darranar   Oct-20-03 04:08 PM   #96 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-20-03 04:03 AM   #73 
              - Some answers  Lithos   Oct-20-03 07:18 AM   #80 
              - The penny just dropped for me!  Violet_Crumble   Oct-20-03 06:46 AM   #79 
                 - Neither are cool  Lithos   Oct-20-03 07:20 AM   #81 
                    - I already did...  Violet_Crumble   Oct-20-03 07:34 AM   #83 
                       - I have gone back to the beginning of Oct.  Lithos   Oct-20-03 07:44 AM   #85 
                          - I'll PM the post to you...  Violet_Crumble   Oct-20-03 07:49 AM   #86 
                             - Will do  Lithos   Oct-20-03 07:50 AM   #87 
        - 'BULLDOZING MILLIONS OF PALESTINIAN HOMES TO DUST SINCE 1948'  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 04:45 PM   #13 
           - I'm getting to you sir. I was in other rooms, and I do want the debate.  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 04:54 PM   #15 
              - What Is An 'Inc 500 Co.", Fellow?  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 04:59 PM   #16 
                 - HAH! It depends on how you look at it I guess.  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 05:44 PM   #24 
                    - Oh, You Will Make A Lot Of Friends Here, Dear  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 06:09 PM   #32 
                       - I'm back for more!  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 09:27 PM   #48 
                          - Well, Dear  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 09:49 PM   #51 
                             - How do you answer that one?  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 11:55 PM   #59 
                                - Well, Then, At Least You Know What You Are Worth, Dear  The Magistrate   Oct-20-03 12:17 AM   #63 
        - well Mr. Magistrate how many do you think ???  number6   Oct-20-03 07:45 PM   #99 
     - Israeli soldiers in West Bank ambush  Aidoneus   Oct-19-03 04:01 PM   #7 
     - They do continue, unfortunately  Gimel   Oct-19-03 11:32 PM   #56 
        - This is a red herring, Ms. Gimel  Jack Rabbit   Oct-20-03 08:57 AM   #90 
           - IDF casualties  Gimel   Oct-21-03 09:31 AM   #112 
     - Yes it is...  Violet_Crumble   Oct-20-03 06:10 AM   #76 
  - So the security forces are civilians?  loudnclear   Oct-19-03 03:33 PM   #3 
  - As long as america supprt Israel.  Jorje Bzsch   Oct-19-03 03:42 PM   #5 
     - Welcome  bluesoul   Oct-19-03 03:45 PM   #6 
     - How many  Gimel   Oct-19-03 04:35 PM   #10 
        - Not strictly true...  Darranar   Oct-19-03 04:43 PM   #12 
        - If Memory Serves, Sir  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 05:08 PM   #19 
        - That sounds about right.  Darranar   Oct-19-03 05:10 PM   #20 
           - Second Thought Suggests Colonel For Rank, Sir  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 05:14 PM   #21 
              - See here:  Lithos   Oct-19-03 05:36 PM   #22 
                 - Thanks, Lithos.  Darranar   Oct-19-03 06:05 PM   #30 
        - Not under the US command  Gimel   Oct-19-03 11:42 PM   #57 
        - That's not the point!  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 04:51 PM   #14 
        - The population of Israel exceeds 4.5 million...  Darranar   Oct-19-03 05:00 PM   #17 
        - Sorry, check the Israell websites. There are about 4.5 million Israeli's.  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 05:53 PM   #25 
           - Aside from the fact...  Darranar   Oct-19-03 05:59 PM   #28 
           - Nah! No they don't  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 09:38 PM   #49 
              - They can all vote...  Darranar   Oct-19-03 09:48 PM   #50 
              - Bedouin Israelis  Gimel   Oct-20-03 04:43 AM   #74 
                 - ...yet still get their land attacked and swindled away from them  Aidoneus   Oct-20-03 06:30 AM   #78 
                    - Such incidents are common  Gimel   Oct-20-03 08:25 AM   #89 
                       - That does not happen to Jews in Israel..  Sesquipedalian   Oct-20-03 02:40 PM   #94 
                          - Not so sure  Gimel   Oct-21-03 02:50 AM   #109 
                             - you have to define "public land" in Israeli terms  Sesquipedalian   Oct-21-03 08:26 AM   #110 
                                - Arab land  Gimel   Oct-21-03 09:20 AM   #111 
                                - It Is Not That Simple, Mr. Pedalian  The Magistrate   Oct-21-03 09:33 AM   #113 
                                   - true enough  Sesquipedalian   Oct-21-03 09:51 AM   #114 
           - Official Israeli site  Gimel   Oct-20-03 08:20 AM   #88 
        - 'Looted', Fellow  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 05:02 PM   #18 
        - Okay then. What do you call it?  captainamerica101   Oct-19-03 06:04 PM   #29 
           - Funds Appropriated By Congess, Fellow  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 06:18 PM   #34 
              - Correction  tinnypriv   Oct-19-03 07:50 PM   #43 
                 - Bad link...  Darranar   Oct-19-03 07:54 PM   #44 
                 - Fixed  tinnypriv   Oct-19-03 08:03 PM   #45 
                 - We Need Not Split Hairs, Mr. Priv  The Magistrate   Oct-19-03 08:13 PM   #47 
                    - a specific reason  Aidoneus   Oct-20-03 06:28 AM   #77 
        - As usual  Gimel   Oct-20-03 12:01 AM   #60 
           - Your only partly right on what "gets my goat" Gimel  captainamerica101   Oct-20-03 12:43 AM   #64 
              - What do you call the return of the Sinai?  Gimel   Oct-20-03 01:09 AM   #67 
                 - Applying the rules of 1492-1800 A.D. is a nice try Gimel, but no dice.  captainamerica101   Oct-20-03 03:23 AM   #71 
                    - Israel's land  Gimel   Oct-20-03 05:52 AM   #75 
                       - That was very well said Gimel!  captainamerica101   Oct-20-03 07:28 PM   #97 
                          - A Brief Question, Dear  The Magistrate   Oct-20-03 07:38 PM   #98 
                          - And yet you speak of propaganda?  Darranar   Oct-20-03 07:49 PM   #101 
                          - And you want this person to back your candidate?  GabysPoppy   Oct-20-03 08:34 PM   #104 
                             - I make no claim to be a representative of Dennis Kucinich...  Darranar   Oct-20-03 08:37 PM   #105 
                                - You misunderstood me  GabysPoppy   Oct-20-03 08:42 PM   #106 
                                   - That's a very good point...  Darranar   Oct-20-03 08:47 PM   #107 
                          - In my view  Gimel   Oct-20-03 11:57 PM   #108 
        - wrong  number6   Oct-20-03 08:01 PM   #103 
  - This is the second recent attack  YANG   Oct-19-03 08:06 PM   #46 
     - I agree with you, Yang...  Violet_Crumble   Oct-20-03 07:37 AM   #84 
     - True enough  tinnypriv   Oct-20-03 10:21 AM   #91 
        - Indeed, Mr. Priv  The Magistrate   Oct-20-03 10:43 AM   #92 
           - I should correct my own post here  tinnypriv   Oct-20-03 03:00 PM   #95 
 

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