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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:56 AM
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128. And I Guess That Standard Is No Government Buildings In Civilian Areas
Once again, any nonsense to soothe your conscience. And, sorry, you fail my friend. There was a suicide car bombing in 1998 and you know full well that suicide attacks weren't used by Palestinians until 1993 I suggest you learn to practice what you preach.

It is indisputable that it was the Israelis who broke the ceasefire, or the tahdia, or the hudna, or whatever the hell you want to call it for sake of feckless redefinitions in pursuit of muddying the waters. So in that sense, will the Israelis accept their responsibilities in starting up the conflict again, or do all responsibility fall on Hamas and the Palestinians collectively?

And finally, has bombing and shooting the Palestinians into submission ever worked? Has it led to any type of peace process? If not, then the Israelis and the supporters who support this madness are only exercising in a meaningless machinery of death, simply because it feels good to them.
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  -Report: At least 120 dead in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza City ProgressiveMuslim  Dec-27-08 04:59 AM   #0 
  - This shit never ends.  Hope And Change   Dec-27-08 05:37 AM   #1 
  - Make that 150 dead. nt  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 06:03 AM   #2 
  - First reports.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 06:06 AM   #3 
  - what is the point of this semite tribal warfare ?  madrchsod   Dec-27-08 06:18 AM   #4 
  - huh?  cali   Dec-27-08 06:23 AM   #5 
  - Indefensible response to the rocket attacks.  cali   Dec-27-08 06:25 AM   #6 
  - And what would be a "defensible" response?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 06:30 AM   #7 
     - I don't know. But I don't think that killing 150 Gazans will  cali   Dec-27-08 06:36 AM   #8 
     - So, an inappropriate response, but no idea what would be appropriate?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 06:42 AM   #10 
     - Withdrawal from all of the occupied territories, back to the 1967  Ghost Dog   Dec-27-08 06:48 AM   #12 
     - Were it that simple.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 06:53 AM   #15 
     - Yes. Unfortunately, the ORIGINAL plan was never properly implemented,  Ghost Dog   Dec-27-08 07:01 AM   #18 
     - What then?  hack89   Dec-27-08 10:36 AM   #56 
     - Threats to Israel (and to Palestine) should then stop.  Ghost Dog   Dec-27-08 11:35 AM   #62 
        - Really?  hack89   Dec-27-08 01:03 PM   #77 
           - Of course Hamas and all others would have to recognise Israel  Ghost Dog   Dec-27-08 04:11 PM   #104 
              - But they have categorically denied wanting peace with Israel  hack89   Dec-27-08 04:51 PM   #105 
                 - And the elimination of (Hamas and an independent) Palestine  Ghost Dog   Dec-27-08 05:04 PM   #106 
                    - There has been peace before  hack89   Dec-27-08 05:51 PM   #110 
     - I could take your reasoning to its logical conclusion and ask  HardcoreProgressive   Dec-28-08 02:01 AM   #116 
     - No. I have no answers to this conflict. I don't pretend to  cali   Dec-27-08 06:52 AM   #13 
        - There is a difference.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 06:54 AM   #16 
           - Israel's attack killed many more civilians than Hamas rockets did Israeli civilians  cali   Dec-27-08 07:19 AM   #24 
              - How do you know the number of civlian casualties?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 07:22 AM   #26 
              - Why is that bullshit? Seriously, that the Israeli forces  cali   Dec-27-08 07:30 AM   #28 
              - I can't deny or confirm anything.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 07:35 AM   #30 
                 - I'm hardly making the claim that Hamas doesn't target Israeli civilans  cali   Dec-27-08 07:41 AM   #32 
                    - Still wrong.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 07:48 AM   #33 
                    - utter baloney.............  PaDem   Dec-27-08 07:15 PM   #112 
                       - Now, bullshit from you?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 08:40 PM   #113 
                    - I agree with you  oberliner   Dec-27-08 09:23 AM   #46 
              - At least one of our Israeli posters has admitted quite diffrently  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 08:53 AM   #38 
              - From the New York Times, children and constructions workers dead:  SOS   Dec-27-08 01:13 PM   #78 
              - It appears like the IAF was using the most accurate munitions available  HardcoreProgressive   Dec-28-08 02:25 AM   #117 
     - I agree.  LeftishBrit   Dec-27-08 08:33 AM   #37 
     - How many will die to prevent "shock" in Sderot?  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 06:37 AM   #9 
        - I don't know.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 06:46 AM   #11 
           - Injured being carried to hospitals where the only equipment is gauze.  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 06:53 AM   #14 
              - Wow! You should write for the propaganda sites you post from (or do you already?).  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 06:56 AM   #17 
                 - You understand propaganda better than anyone here...  AnOhioan   Dec-27-08 07:05 AM   #19 
                 - So says one who wouldn't know truth if it bit him on the ass.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 07:08 AM   #20 
                    - Oh, so you and and only you are the arbiter of 'truth'  AnOhioan   Dec-27-08 07:10 AM   #21 
                    - LMAO! Yes, I claim to be the "sole arbiter of 'truth'".  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 07:12 AM   #23 
                       - No I do not 'hate' Israelis....  AnOhioan   Dec-27-08 07:20 AM   #25 
                          - So, it is all about "equal number of dead."  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 07:25 AM   #27 
                             - You can talk out your ass all you want  AnOhioan   Dec-27-08 04:09 PM   #103 
                                - No, it is yours. You have never wavered in your "bias."  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 05:17 PM   #109 
                    - LOL pot meet kettle n/t  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 08:56 AM   #39 
                       - says the skillet.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 02:44 PM   #94 
                          - Well thankyou n/t  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 08:56 PM   #114 
                 - It's not bullshit. It's the face of Israel on December 27, 2008.  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 07:32 AM   #29 
                    - More propaganda from you? Say it isn't so?!  Behind the Aegis   Dec-27-08 07:40 AM   #31 
                       - Turn on the TV, BTA... Anyone with 2 eyes can see.  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 08:07 AM   #35 
  - More than 200 rockets have been fired at Israel since the "truce" ended  Vegasaurus   Dec-27-08 07:10 AM   #22 
  - Too stupid or......  Sezu   Dec-27-08 08:03 AM   #34 
  - Hmmmm another "death is good for them post"  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 09:07 AM   #40 
     - Who's cheering?  Vegasaurus   Dec-27-08 10:13 AM   #53 
     - Good for them?  Sezu   Dec-27-08 12:06 PM   #64 
        - So now you are trying to claim that I am cheering Hamas? n/t  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 12:30 PM   #68 
           - who knows what you are cheering, since your posts are impossible to decipher  Vegasaurus   Dec-27-08 12:47 PM   #75 
  - Hamas is actually very smart  TheRealThing   Dec-27-08 10:09 AM   #52 
  - Oh yeah Alsn Johnston the BBC  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 02:02 PM   #86 
  - Israel Was The One Who Broke The Ceasefire In The First Place  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-27-08 12:33 PM   #70 
     - it wasnt a cease fire....  pelsar   Dec-27-08 01:36 PM   #81 
        - Yeah, That's Why All Reports Called It A Ceasefire  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-27-08 01:51 PM   #83 
           - He was trying to use semantics to kill  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 02:12 PM   #88 
           - just the proper definition...  pelsar   Dec-27-08 02:45 PM   #95 
           - Nevermind that the Israeli media use the English word "ceasefire" daily...  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 03:49 PM   #101 
              - "talking points"...  pelsar   Dec-28-08 02:52 AM   #119 
           - did you actually read your link?  pelsar   Dec-27-08 02:48 PM   #96 
              - A Lot Better Than You  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-27-08 03:34 PM   #98 
                 - huh?....  pelsar   Dec-28-08 02:56 AM   #120 
                    - I Don't Know Why Hebrew Newspapers Have Less Problem  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-28-08 07:34 AM   #123 
  - 'Only just beginning'  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 08:30 AM   #36 
  - a little clarification of the civilian casualties within gaza..  pelsar   Dec-27-08 09:09 AM   #41 
  - Well in that case, I suppose 195+ is something to be proud of!  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 09:14 AM   #43 
  - Contradicted: "...Israel sought to catch Hamas off guard by luring it into a false sense..."  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 09:57 AM   #48 
  - From the same article: "Most of the casualties were Hamas operatives."  oberliner   Dec-27-08 10:30 AM   #55 
     - FCOL Oberliner, of course that's what Haartez is going to say.  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 12:09 PM   #66 
        - so PM you also dont have internet? read the news?  pelsar   Dec-27-08 12:23 PM   #67 
           - more eyewitness accounts...  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 12:30 PM   #69 
              - Eh, It Was Probably Located Next To A Government Building  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-27-08 12:40 PM   #73 
              - I treat such commentaries with suspicion  HardcoreProgressive   Dec-28-08 01:56 AM   #115 
  - If that was their plan, then wouldn't they have cleared out of their bases in  breakaleg   Dec-27-08 09:57 AM   #49 
  - Hamas was given ample warning  Vegasaurus   Dec-27-08 10:07 AM   #51 
  - i dont know..some speculation....  pelsar   Dec-27-08 10:55 AM   #59 
  - I'd Be Careful About Condemning The Use Of "Human Shields" If I Were You  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-27-08 12:36 PM   #72 
  - why?......  pelsar   Dec-27-08 01:13 PM   #79 
     - One Group Of Human Shields  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-27-08 02:02 PM   #85 
        - ask hamas....  pelsar   Dec-27-08 02:51 PM   #97 
           - So Governments Can't Build Offices In The Cities They Govern?  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-27-08 03:37 PM   #99 
              - It their choice  pelsar   Dec-28-08 04:08 AM   #122 
                 - So They CAN'T Build Government Buildings In The Places They Serve  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-28-08 08:13 AM   #124 
                    - They actually started doing their jobs  eyl   Dec-29-08 02:19 AM   #125 
                    - I Didn't Say It Was A Perfect Arrangement  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-30-08 01:04 AM   #130 
                    - they can do what they want...  pelsar   Dec-29-08 02:40 AM   #126 
                       - And I Guess That Standard Is No Government Buildings In Civilian Areas  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-30-08 12:56 AM   #128 
  - Where did get this one?  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 02:14 PM   #89 
  - where have you been the last week?  pelsar   Dec-27-08 02:41 PM   #92 
  - Some counter points  HardcoreProgressive   Dec-28-08 02:42 AM   #118 
     - i will defer to your greater knowledge on bombs...  pelsar   Dec-29-08 04:06 PM   #127 
  - Were any non-military targets hit? Is there any word on civilian casualties?  oberliner   Dec-27-08 09:12 AM   #42 
  - Eyewitness reports on BBC  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 09:20 AM   #44 
     - That interview is very informative  oberliner   Dec-27-08 09:57 AM   #47 
        - Oberliner, I've been watching TV since 5:45 this morning.  ProgressiveMuslim   Dec-27-08 10:00 AM   #50 
           - I am trying to collect information on what happened  oberliner   Dec-27-08 10:24 AM   #54 
  - AP Report  Orwellian_Ghost   Dec-27-08 09:22 AM   #45 
  - To all of you people  gilad   Dec-27-08 10:50 AM   #57 
  - "you people"? nt  bemildred   Dec-27-08 10:53 AM   #58 
  - translation from hebrew....  pelsar   Dec-27-08 10:58 AM   #60 
     - Looks like English to me.  bemildred   Dec-27-08 11:09 AM   #61 
        - sort of english....  pelsar   Dec-27-08 11:58 AM   #63 
        - Pelsar I know Russian immigrants  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 02:16 PM   #90 
           - well then perhaps hes russian..  pelsar   Dec-27-08 02:42 PM   #93 
        - "you people" is us. You, me, and everyone else here reading the post. nt  greyl   Dec-28-08 03:45 AM   #121 
  - Well you can explain this part  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 12:36 PM   #71 
  - "They" have been warned for a full week  Vegasaurus   Dec-27-08 12:45 PM   #74 
  - you'll have to ask the IDF..  pelsar   Dec-27-08 01:17 PM   #80 
     - Speculation or just plain silly?  azurnoir   Dec-27-08 02:18 PM   #91 
  - What Are You Talking About?  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-27-08 12:53 PM   #76 
     - learn to read  gilad   Dec-27-08 01:51 PM   #82 
        - Um, Yeah . . .  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-27-08 01:56 PM   #84 
           - ok, you got me  gilad   Dec-27-08 02:05 PM   #87 
              - There was also a clash that killed 3 militants  wellst0nev0ter   Dec-27-08 03:38 PM   #100 
  - Hmmm.  TomClash   Dec-27-08 12:08 PM   #65 
  - 206 Dead- 400 injured - Latest update...  JCMach1   Dec-27-08 04:02 PM   #102 
  - At least 228 die as Israel hammers Hamas-run Gaza  bemildred   Dec-27-08 05:09 PM   #107 
  - Fresh Israeli airstrikes on Gaza Strip kill three  bemildred   Dec-27-08 05:11 PM   #108 
  - has P.E.B.O. said anything? n/t  excess_3   Dec-27-08 05:56 PM   #111 
     - "now watch this drive"?  Alamuti Lotus   Dec-30-08 12:58 AM   #129 
 

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