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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:20 AM
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9. It isn't 'sickness of the Palestinians'...
It's 'sickness of peoples at war'. Wars breed hatred, dehumanization of the 'others', celebration of violence, etc.

I've just been looking at a collection of verses from WW2 by British writer A.P. Herbert. This was as clear an example of justified war as one can have; there was truly no alternative but to fight and to win. However, one can still notice a bloodthirsty hatred for all Germans and Japanese and gloating over civilian as well as military suffering, that could be called 'sick'.

'There'll always be a Hitler
To worry you and me
Until we take the German race
And sink it in the sea'.


'Plod on, poor frozen Fritzes;
Plod on, poor frozen Frau;
You who invented blitzes
Are in the business now..

Sing 'Heil' to mighty Russia,
Farewell to farm and shack.
This is an end of Prussia
And you're not coming back'.


'Each little piece (of broken glass from a home damaged by air-raids) I pluck from a flowerbed
Is a piece of Hitler, soiling the English spring.
For each I cry a curse on a German head,
And when I remember Aachen - I laugh and sing.'


And for Japan:

'...Do you remember, long ago
When earthquakes toppled Tokyo?
We passed the plate, we filled our caps
With hard-won pennies for the Japs.

This is Bushido. This is how
Our children are rewarded now.
When God again afflicts Japan,
Let her not look to mortal man;
And God bless those who mean to make
The whole of that vile island quake.'


So: wars do corrupt people into celebrating violence and hatred for enemies. I hope that one day, before too long, the Israelis and Palestinians will be able to co-exist in peace. After all, it's been some time since the English and Japanese hated each other.
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  -Kidnapped troops return in coffins from Lebanon notfullofit  Jul-16-08 03:33 AM   #0 
  - Now they know for sure...  notfullofit   Jul-16-08 03:44 AM   #1 
  - The question is  azurnoir   Jul-16-08 03:48 AM   #2 
  - It's been done.  notfullofit   Jul-16-08 03:54 AM   #3 
  - Not quite  azurnoir   Jul-16-08 04:00 AM   #4 
  - oops...  pelsar   Jul-16-08 09:45 AM   #12 
     - They have did but the posts are almost 6 hours apart  azurnoir   Jul-16-08 11:20 AM   #15 
        - it was pretty clear..  pelsar   Jul-16-08 11:27 AM   #16 
  - This is so sad for the families  azurnoir   Jul-16-08 04:30 AM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-16-08 07:14 AM   #6 
     - There's another example of disgusting generalisations...  Violet_Crumble   Jul-16-08 07:39 AM   #7 
     - Note too that  azurnoir   Jul-16-08 01:02 PM   #17 
        - Condolences are not in order, is that what you mean?  notfullofit   Jul-16-08 01:09 PM   #19 
           - No that is not what I mean  azurnoir   Jul-16-08 01:26 PM   #20 
              - My wife and I  notfullofit   Jul-16-08 02:25 PM   #21 
              - Apparently you do not read  azurnoir   Jul-17-08 12:06 AM   #27 
                 - Just the facts ma'am,  notfullofit   Jul-17-08 12:13 AM   #28 
              - What are you talking about?  Vegasaurus   Jul-16-08 02:28 PM   #22 
     - It isn't 'sickness of the Palestinians'...  LeftishBrit   Jul-16-08 08:20 AM   #9 
        - People here constantly remind us  Vegasaurus   Jul-16-08 09:02 AM   #10 
           - My impression is...  LeftishBrit   Jul-16-08 09:10 AM   #11 
           - i cant recall any celebrations of death.....  pelsar   Jul-16-08 09:49 AM   #13 
              - That is good to know...  LeftishBrit   Jul-16-08 01:04 PM   #18 
                 - To clarify slightly...  LeftishBrit   Jul-17-08 09:36 AM   #29 
           - Indeed they don't and everybody knows who does  Sezu   Jul-16-08 11:06 PM   #24 
           - Thats because shooting Arabs is easy...  shaayecanaan   Jul-16-08 11:33 PM   #26 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-17-08 11:16 AM   #30 
  - This is just so sad.  LeftishBrit   Jul-16-08 08:03 AM   #8 
  - its israel watching out for its own.....  pelsar   Jul-16-08 10:26 AM   #14 
  - change the victory celebrations in Lebanon to a mass funeral  notfullofit   Jul-16-08 09:28 PM   #23 
     - There are very few situations so bad...  LeftishBrit   Jul-17-08 01:47 PM   #31 
  - To the intransigent go the spoils...  shaayecanaan   Jul-16-08 11:18 PM   #25 
 

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