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Thu Jun-19-08 12:52 PM
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| 118. A very serious answer |
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your 2 examples one is quite inaccurate I never mentioned Sabra veterans, I believe it was "old family Sabras" and you your self have said that immigrants get sent to less desirable area's.
Oh and Sharons son I conceded that point at the time.
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| -Why a Cultural Boycott of Israel Is Necessary |
madeline_con |
Jun-13-08 11:58 PM |
#0 |
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Why just Israel? |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-14-08 05:55 AM |
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Why just South Africa? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-14-08 08:02 AM |
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One difference... |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-14-08 08:19 AM |
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There's no difference... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-14-08 09:04 AM |
#8 |
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OK -let's leave out China for the moment (unless it actually joins the boycott).... |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-14-08 11:13 AM |
#18 |
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We boycotted South Africa... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-16-08 06:29 AM |
#45 |
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Israel is not South Africa |
oberliner |
Jun-14-08 08:32 AM |
#7 |
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So a country has to be unique in order to have sanctions imposed? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-14-08 09:13 AM |
#9 |
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Cultural boycotts |
oberliner |
Jun-14-08 09:46 AM |
#11 |
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It has to be unique in that it |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-14-08 09:51 AM |
#12 |
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The rationale and terms are made clear by PACBI: |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-14-08 12:14 PM |
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Let's be honest about what this means. |
aranthus |
Jun-14-08 07:40 PM |
#32 |
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Genocidal war is right |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-15-08 07:40 PM |
#38 |
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Try learning what genocide is before abusing the term... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-16-08 06:59 AM |
#48 |
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This is a call to genocide |
aranthus |
Jun-16-08 11:19 AM |
#61 |
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No, it's not...you really need to study up on what genocide is... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-22-08 04:27 AM |
#133 |
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Nonsense. |
aranthus |
Jun-22-08 02:34 PM |
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Jun-22-08 02:59 PM |
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Does anyone else think those comments are bigoted negative generalisations? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-24-08 06:50 AM |
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That's one way of self-describing yr post :) |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-23-08 06:30 AM |
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Jun-23-08 12:23 PM |
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No I wasn't. I didn't realise recommending books was an offensive thing... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-24-08 04:49 AM |
#171 |
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This means Israel's ongoing perpetration of evil against the people of Palestine must CEASE. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-16-08 05:11 AM |
#43 |
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You are denying the import of the very goals you support. |
aranthus |
Jun-16-08 11:23 AM |
#62 |
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Well, they are certainly clear about their terms. |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-15-08 01:15 AM |
#36 |
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So which refugees do you think Resolution 194 is referring to? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-16-08 07:47 AM |
#55 |
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Oh, it refers to the Palestinians alright. |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-16-08 10:35 PM |
#68 |
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It definately refers to the Palestinians... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-22-08 04:30 AM |
#134 |
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If this Resolution does give the Palestinian refugees the right of return... |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-27-08 04:14 AM |
#194 |
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So why is it acceptable to single out Gaza for boycotting and sanctions? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-16-08 06:49 AM |
#47 |
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IIMO, that isn't acceptable and isn't working. |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-16-08 07:12 AM |
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I'm pretty sure Shakti isn't opposed to the sanctions imposed on Gaza... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-16-08 07:28 AM |
#50 |
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'The attitude seems to be mainly confined to the Middle East...' |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-16-08 10:22 AM |
#59 |
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Israel has not made annihilation of another country its national goal |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-16-08 07:45 AM |
#54 |
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Neither have the Palestinians... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-16-08 07:56 AM |
#56 |
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The government of the Palestinians, in Gaza, absolutely has |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-16-08 08:19 AM |
#57 |
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So when will you be demanding sanctions against the US? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-16-08 08:27 AM |
#58 |
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You have a reading comprehension problem |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-16-08 10:28 AM |
#60 |
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And you have a lack of intelligence problem... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-22-08 04:34 AM |
#135 |
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Not true, there is nothing that says a country must accept an election |
Dick Dastardly |
Jun-22-08 05:30 AM |
#140 |
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So you support the US govt and its regular attempts at regime change round the world? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-22-08 05:36 AM |
#141 |
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So do you just make things up and put words in peoples mouths |
Dick Dastardly |
Jun-22-08 05:42 AM |
#142 |
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No, the US has stated that it wants regime change... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-22-08 05:45 AM |
#143 |
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No stating a want and actually invading for regime change are 2 different things |
Dick Dastardly |
Jun-22-08 06:30 AM |
#145 |
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You think it's not regime change if there's no invasion involved? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-22-08 06:53 AM |
#146 |
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Using your right to not deal with someone you dont like and or dont approve of |
Dick Dastardly |
Jun-22-08 06:39 PM |
#154 |
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No, it's not merely a matter of not wanting to deal with a govt... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-23-08 06:43 AM |
#159 |
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Again you move the goal posts and ignore what is said. |
Dick Dastardly |
Jun-23-08 10:41 PM |
#168 |
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Maybe you should quit it with the ad-homs and try and stay on-topic? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-24-08 04:56 AM |
#172 |
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More of the same I have come to expect. |
Dick Dastardly |
Jun-24-08 10:13 PM |
#179 |
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Let me get this straight., You accusing me of not wanting honest debate is yr idea of honest debate? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-25-08 02:29 AM |
#183 |
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Back in 2000 |
eyl |
Jun-23-08 04:26 AM |
#157 |
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Cease with the ad hominems |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-22-08 02:56 PM |
#149 |
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So you are claiming that from at least 2004 to today |
azurnoir |
Jun-22-08 04:10 PM |
#151 |
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Are you seriously equating |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-22-08 04:15 PM |
#152 |
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Different circumstances create |
azurnoir |
Jun-22-08 05:06 PM |
#153 |
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Strictly speaking the US isn't a democracy... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-23-08 07:18 AM |
#163 |
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That's rich coming from someone who told me to get a life... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-23-08 07:11 AM |
#162 |
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Jun-23-08 09:00 AM |
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Why NOT Israel? |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-14-08 08:32 AM |
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Well, considering that Hamas is at least as intransigent |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-14-08 10:15 AM |
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Hamas is as intransigent? RU kidding? nt |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-14-08 10:30 AM |
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No. Not kidding. |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-14-08 10:45 AM |
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Let's turn the tables...can you point to an example when an Israeli has done something besides TALK |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-14-08 12:10 PM |
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They have withdrawn from gaza, dismantled settlements, |
Sezu |
Jun-14-08 12:29 PM |
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Palestinian officials: Israel offers new West Bank proposal |
oberliner |
Jun-14-08 12:34 PM |
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I'd love to see the map! |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-16-08 05:14 AM |
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So would I... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-16-08 07:37 AM |
#51 |
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I believe that it can happen |
oberliner |
Jun-16-08 11:26 AM |
#63 |
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thats just talk.... |
pelsar |
Jun-16-08 11:15 PM |
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you really have to ignore history for that post ..... |
pelsar |
Jun-14-08 11:13 PM |
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Slaves in Alabama were intransigent too. |
grassfed |
Jun-14-08 02:39 PM |
#28 |
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Slaves in Alabama |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-14-08 05:19 PM |
#30 |
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What the hell is 'global dole'?? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-22-08 04:39 AM |
#136 |
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Wait... what? |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-15-08 11:40 PM |
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Occupation is an a priori evil instituion, as was slavery. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-16-08 05:08 AM |
#42 |
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I 'd support a boycott of Hamas |
number6 |
Jun-15-08 07:19 PM |
#37 |
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Well for starters |
aranthus |
Jun-14-08 07:44 PM |
#33 |
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defend the indefensible if you like. |
grassfed |
Jun-14-08 02:37 PM |
#27 |
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Just for the record... |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-14-08 03:50 PM |
#29 |
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It won't happen |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-14-08 07:22 AM |
#2 |
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Nokia's an Israeli company? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-14-08 09:34 AM |
#10 |
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Interesting list of settlement-made products that Gush Shalom suggests boycotting: |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-14-08 10:39 AM |
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Guess you don't knowingly use your cell phone or computer, with its Pentium processor |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-14-08 11:09 AM |
#17 |
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google .... |
pelsar |
Jun-14-08 11:23 PM |
#35 |
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So what you are saying is that |
azurnoir |
Jun-16-08 04:54 AM |
#40 |
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You can use them or not |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-16-08 07:40 AM |
#52 |
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Hey, I've got a question! |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-22-08 05:09 AM |
#138 |
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You're an amateur... |
shaayecanaan |
Jun-22-08 06:16 AM |
#144 |
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Does this mean I can start using my computer and eating hummus and pomegranites again? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-23-08 07:01 AM |
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Correction |
shaayecanaan |
Jun-23-08 10:44 PM |
#169 |
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I'd refuse to buy anything from companies based in the West Bank... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-16-08 07:41 AM |
#53 |
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Cell phone technology |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-14-08 11:15 AM |
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Mobile phone networks and technology were developed in Europe... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-16-08 06:45 AM |
#46 |
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Goulash? OK, you're not understanding this. |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-16-08 12:45 PM |
#64 |
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Thank you, Shatki |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-16-08 01:33 PM |
#65 |
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Too true. |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-16-08 01:48 PM |
#66 |
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You and Vegas are the ones who don't understand... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-22-08 04:56 AM |
#137 |
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I could care less what you do, Violet |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-22-08 11:25 AM |
#147 |
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Then why are you so fascinated by me and pomegranites? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-23-08 06:48 AM |
#160 |
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And thank you for making my point again |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 05:05 AM |
#71 |
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What is your point? |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-17-08 06:47 AM |
#72 |
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Actually you can ignore them |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 11:06 AM |
#73 |
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Incorrect |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-17-08 11:49 AM |
#74 |
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Spouting nonsense? |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 12:32 PM |
#76 |
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Israeli firms developed a lot of the technology we're discussing. |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-17-08 02:18 PM |
#79 |
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If those companies don't matter, |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-17-08 11:52 AM |
#75 |
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So it would seem that your point here is |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 12:44 PM |
#77 |
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No, you are missing the point again |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-17-08 12:53 PM |
#78 |
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So we are back to |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 04:04 PM |
#84 |
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I am not BACK to that point |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-17-08 04:30 PM |
#87 |
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No but whether you realize it or not |
azurnoir |
Jun-22-08 07:10 PM |
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What the hell are you talking about? |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-22-08 07:46 PM |
#156 |
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so one of those questions again...based on ignorance or spite? |
pelsar |
Jun-17-08 02:31 PM |
#80 |
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Hey pelsar, |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-17-08 03:33 PM |
#81 |
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very common... |
pelsar |
Jun-17-08 03:56 PM |
#82 |
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Pretty much the same as the US for managment |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 04:19 PM |
#85 |
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technically i'm right...that means... |
pelsar |
Jun-17-08 06:00 PM |
#95 |
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Israel does not have socialized or state paid health care? |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 04:02 PM |
#83 |
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I think he meant that |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-17-08 04:47 PM |
#91 |
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The health insurance point was my original post Ma'm |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 05:05 PM |
#94 |
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the state health service comes out of the paycheck... |
pelsar |
Jun-17-08 06:04 PM |
#96 |
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Comes out of paycheck? |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 06:26 PM |
#98 |
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its their "tax" that i pay... |
pelsar |
Jun-17-08 11:15 PM |
#101 |
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Gee so that is the standard method |
azurnoir |
Jun-18-08 05:34 AM |
#106 |
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your right it is standard... |
pelsar |
Jun-18-08 11:46 AM |
#108 |
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See #85 |
azurnoir |
Jun-18-08 12:30 PM |
#110 |
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It is cheaper in israel.. |
pelsar |
Jun-18-08 10:14 PM |
#115 |
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Sir I corrected it yesterday that would be Tuesday |
azurnoir |
Jun-18-08 10:50 PM |
#116 |
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Add academic to that... as Palestinian students and scholars are imprisoned |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-14-08 08:31 AM |
#5 |
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and at least support a boycott of hamas? |
pelsar |
Jun-14-08 11:27 AM |
#20 |
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Why? Hamas is calling for ceasefire and change of status quo. nt |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-14-08 12:09 PM |
#21 |
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hamas: |
pelsar |
Jun-14-08 02:18 PM |
#26 |
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Bullshit. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-16-08 05:07 AM |
#41 |
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if i recall it was called a... |
pelsar |
Jun-16-08 11:27 PM |
#70 |
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Dude. Get a hold of yourself. Would you like me to search the posts that finally CONFIRMED |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jun-17-08 04:19 PM |
#86 |
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Who do you think this crowd posts for? |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 04:31 PM |
#88 |
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Untrue |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-17-08 04:36 PM |
#90 |
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Pot meet kettle n/t |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 04:53 PM |
#93 |
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psst... |
pelsar |
Jun-17-08 06:27 PM |
#99 |
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But I do not "make stuff up" |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 08:12 PM |
#100 |
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you insinuate things that are not true.... |
pelsar |
Jun-18-08 01:21 AM |
#103 |
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Wow. Um... you've got something there on your shoulder, friend. |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-18-08 12:56 AM |
#102 |
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we've been discovered...... |
pelsar |
Jun-18-08 01:38 AM |
#104 |
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Um, shakti was the one who talked about a subversive agenda, not az.... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jun-24-08 06:08 AM |
#173 |
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quite interesting isnt it.... |
pelsar |
Jun-18-08 10:33 AM |
#107 |
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All the more reason for some of us to continue to post |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-18-08 12:15 PM |
#109 |
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Whom do *you* think it posts for? |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-18-08 02:10 PM |
#111 |
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You do not understand? |
azurnoir |
Jun-18-08 02:41 PM |
#112 |
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Who has decided not to post here? (If you're allowed to say.) |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-18-08 02:47 PM |
#113 |
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To be honest I do not know |
azurnoir |
Jun-18-08 03:17 PM |
#114 |
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a very serious suggestion..... |
pelsar |
Jun-19-08 01:18 AM |
#117 |
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A very serious answer |
azurnoir |
Jun-19-08 12:52 PM |
#118 |
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you insinuate constantly |
pelsar |
Jun-20-08 02:34 AM |
#126 |
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Does "racist" even apply? |
azurnoir |
Jun-20-08 04:18 AM |
#130 |
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infering racism.... |
pelsar |
Jun-20-08 10:17 AM |
#131 |
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Sir your statements are incorreect |
azurnoir |
Jun-20-08 06:38 PM |
#132 |
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israel invaded in 82 because of the katuahas... |
pelsar |
Jun-22-08 05:13 AM |
#139 |
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Vanity Fair, eh? |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-17-08 04:34 PM |
#89 |
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Heres one |
azurnoir |
Jun-17-08 04:51 PM |
#92 |
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your hamas coup to prevent the |
pelsar |
Jun-17-08 06:24 PM |
#97 |
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Vanity Fair article doesn't exactly say what you are suggesting |
oberliner |
Jun-18-08 02:03 AM |
#105 |
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Why Hamas won't recognise Israel |
delad |
Jun-19-08 07:32 PM |
#119 |
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Except Israel didn't start the '67 war |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-19-08 09:53 PM |
#120 |
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Israel is a country that actually does exist |
oberliner |
Jun-19-08 11:33 PM |
#121 |
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Sort of true but |
azurnoir |
Jun-20-08 12:04 AM |
#122 |
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Abbas has repeatedly reaffirmed the recognition of Israel as stated in Arafat's letter |
oberliner |
Jun-20-08 12:18 AM |
#123 |
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Has the charter been changed yet? |
azurnoir |
Jun-20-08 01:10 AM |
#124 |
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The charter was amended in 1996 |
oberliner |
Jun-20-08 01:32 AM |
#125 |
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recognition |
delad |
Jun-20-08 02:43 AM |
#127 |
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Then why is not changed on their website? |
azurnoir |
Jun-20-08 03:06 AM |
#129 |
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Why Hamas won't just recognize Israel. |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-20-08 02:51 AM |
#128 |
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Change in status quo? |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-14-08 05:20 PM |
#31 |
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It all boils down to rockets and suicide bombings. Those stop and |
pegleg |
Jun-16-08 03:32 PM |
#67 |
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Simplistic and naive |
Tarc |
Jun-23-08 12:26 PM |
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Jun-23-08 01:57 PM |
#167 |
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Jun-24-08 08:09 AM |
#175 |
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Your rude and unpleasant style aside |
Vegasaurus |
Jun-24-08 08:58 AM |
#177 |
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truth hurts, eh? |
Tarc |
Jun-24-08 11:57 PM |
#181 |
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Jun-25-08 01:35 PM |
#187 |
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The truth hurts? |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-27-08 03:03 AM |
#191 |
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Of course it isn't. |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-24-08 09:46 AM |
#178 |
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nothing let for them to do? |
pelsar |
Jun-24-08 08:29 AM |
#176 |
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pretty much, yep |
Tarc |
Jun-24-08 11:55 PM |
#180 |
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actually is was the hagana |
pelsar |
Jun-25-08 01:39 AM |
#182 |
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/yawn |
Tarc |
Jun-25-08 09:43 AM |
#184 |
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no apology for zionist motivations..... |
pelsar |
Jun-25-08 11:11 AM |
#185 |
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Two comments... |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-27-08 03:31 AM |
#192 |
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boycott of israeli arabs |
pelsar |
Jun-24-08 12:35 AM |
#170 |
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No one has the right to impose a cultural boycott |
HamdenRice |
Jun-25-08 12:37 PM |
#186 |
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If we are going to boycott a culture based |
Zionismisnotracism |
Jun-26-08 12:50 PM |
#188 |
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Did you read the post? It's not based on bad behavior |
HamdenRice |
Jun-26-08 01:44 PM |
#189 |
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What good would come from a boycott? |
Phx_Dem |
Jun-26-08 02:00 PM |
#190 |
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I just re-read the whole article, |
Shaktimaan |
Jun-27-08 04:07 AM |
#193 |
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