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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:08 PM
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27. Nakba
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The popularity of the narrative of the "nakba" has greater implications for Israel than just a nationalist slogan or a bid for supremacy in the war of public relations. It leads Palestinians and their advocates in a direction away from responsibility for building a nation and toward illusion and blame, twin illnesses which have haunted the Palestinians for decades.

Today there is real hope for a different result. Today, Israel's 60-year hope for peace is being heard by Palestinian and Arab leaders. Today, leaders of the Palestinians like President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Salaam Fayad are trying to pursue a path toward realizing the Palestinian dream of a state, while the forces of Hamas hold the Palestinian people's aspirations hostage to the false and destructive promise embodied in the concept of "nakba." Today there are pragmatic leaders in the Arab world who went to Annapolis and let the Arab League openly talk about normalizing relations with Israel.

Instead of looking backward and remaining anchored in the failed vision of a "nakba," the world should join with Israel and the elected leadership of the Palestinian Authority to bring a new vision of success and good fortune for the future of the Palestinians.

http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/foxman/entry/playing_the_na...
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  -Israel Tells UN to Strike Nakba From Lexicon Violet_Crumble  May-17-08 02:25 AM   #0 
  - What alternative word  edwardlindy   May-17-08 02:36 AM   #1 
  - Undermine the legitimacy?  azurnoir   May-17-08 10:31 AM   #7 
     - The word in question was  edwardlindy   May-17-08 01:00 PM   #11 
        - It was the part about  azurnoir   May-17-08 02:25 PM   #12 
           - That was cut and pasted from the main post  edwardlindy   May-17-08 03:30 PM   #29 
              - Sorry I misunderstood n/t  azurnoir   May-17-08 06:59 PM   #33 
  - That's akin to the U.S. National Parks Dept. asking Rand McNally to remove the Trail of Tears from  no_hypocrisy   May-17-08 05:46 AM   #2 
  - Dupe. Sorry.  no_hypocrisy   May-17-08 05:46 AM   #3 
  - Wow. Pretty pathetic, isn't it? nt  ProgressiveMuslim   May-17-08 07:40 AM   #4 
  - Pathetic and petty....  Violet_Crumble   May-17-08 08:16 AM   #5 
     - It think its pretty indicative of the beginning of the end.  ProgressiveMuslim   May-17-08 10:02 AM   #6 
     - Beginning of the end of what?  LeftishBrit   May-17-08 10:34 AM   #8 
        - There will be no end to Israel  Vegasaurus   May-17-08 10:35 AM   #10 
        - Here is what I mean:  ProgressiveMuslim   May-18-08 08:12 AM   #38 
     - What strikes me is the absolute paranoiia  azurnoir   May-17-08 10:35 AM   #9 
  - Israel Tells UN to Strike Nakba From Lexicon  Agony   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #13 
  - BREAKING: Germany tells UN to strike 'Shoah' from Lexicon...  regnaD kciN   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #16 
     - What political gain?  TLM   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #22 
  - Well alrighty then......  AnOhioan   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #15 
  - Nope. It's my dead relatives ... not Arabs who fought w/Nazis n/t  Fredda Weinberg   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #17 
     - How would your dead relatives feel....  TLM   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #23 
     - Israel long ago lost any claim to a moral high ground  AnOhioan   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #24 
        - Only at DU. The rest of America . .  msmcghee   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #26 
           - I could not care less what others think.  AnOhioan   May-17-08 03:19 PM   #28 
           - I was not expecting you to retract . .  msmcghee   May-17-08 03:57 PM   #30 
           - The only echo chamber is one  azurnoir   May-17-08 06:49 PM   #31 
              - Sometimes your posts are very coherent and . .  msmcghee   May-17-08 07:19 PM   #34 
  - Jump to it, motherfuckers....  TomInTib   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #18 
  - Delete  hisownpetard   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #20 
     - Delete - wrong place  hisownpetard   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #21 
     - Hey! You can't do that!  TomInTib   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #25 
  - Are you f-ing kidding me? Not even aloud to have the word?  TLM   May-17-08 02:30 PM   #19 
     - Nakba  notfullofit   May-17-08 03:08 PM   #27 
     - Actually if there is a win/lose in this  azurnoir   May-17-08 06:58 PM   # 
        - Propaganda wise perhaps but psychologically the  Sezu   May-17-08 07:27 PM   #35 
           - It was 60 years ago  azurnoir   May-17-08 07:47 PM   #36 
              - As you well should know it's not really all that  Sezu   May-17-08 08:24 PM   #37 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   May-18-08 09:43 AM   #39 
                 - Of course it's important what average Palestinians believe...  Violet_Crumble   May-18-08 06:12 PM   #41 
                    - "This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre  Sezu   May-18-08 11:08 PM   #42 
                    - One could  notfullofit   May-18-08 11:45 PM   #43 
                       - A quote isn't what makes something genocide...  Violet_Crumble   May-19-08 12:00 AM   #44 
                    - Well, sort of  eyl   May-19-08 03:37 AM   #46 
  - ## DON'T DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   May-17-08 06:58 PM   #32 
  - The good news is that no propaganda campaign on the part of Israel's supporters  ProgressiveMuslim   May-18-08 02:21 PM   #40 
  - a note on the propaganda...  pelsar   May-19-08 02:15 AM   #45 
 

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