MaryCeleste
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Fri Mar-21-08 01:51 AM
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| 6. Its a sovreignity issue |
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The article claims it is internationally unlawful without citation.
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| -AAI leads delegation to protest restrictions in Americans in Occupied Territories |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-20-08 07:50 PM |
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Clearly, some "Americans" are more equal than others. nt |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-20-08 07:51 PM |
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Its a process they apply to citizens of all nations |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-21-08 09:35 AM |
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I hope people are equally outraged by the fact that anyone with an Israeli |
Vegasaurus |
Mar-20-08 08:50 PM |
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And how does this relate to the US and its relationship with Israel? It doesn't. |
breakaleg |
Mar-20-08 10:16 PM |
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Israel is a sovereign nation |
Vegasaurus |
Mar-21-08 06:32 AM |
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The article's about entry to the Occupied Territories, not Israel...n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-21-08 07:50 AM |
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This is about how Israel is treating SOME US citizens differently than others. |
breakaleg |
Mar-21-08 08:52 AM |
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What about Israeli-Americans or Americans who have visited Israel? |
oberliner |
Mar-21-08 02:42 PM |
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Americans with Israeli passport stamps are not welcome in Arab countries either |
Vegasaurus |
Mar-22-08 08:42 AM |
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So you are OK with American citizens |
azurnoir |
Mar-21-08 12:13 AM |
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What you are complaining about is profiling, which is common in many countries |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-21-08 01:47 AM |
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Imagine our government's response if Americans of Jewish background were subject to a different |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-21-08 06:30 AM |
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American Jews don't pose a threat to French national security |
Vegasaurus |
Mar-21-08 06:38 AM |
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And Arab-Americans don't pose a threat to Israeli national security... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-21-08 08:06 AM |
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As I understand, this isn't about Palestinians but about Americans of Arab descent.. |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-21-08 08:17 AM |
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It DOES happen in many Arab countries; and there's no hue and cry |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-21-08 06:57 AM |
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List these 'many Arab countries' that it happens to Americans in...n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-21-08 07:48 AM |
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I should not have said 'many'; I was thinking specifically of Saudi Arabia.. |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-21-08 08:11 AM |
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Yeah, Saudi Arabia's the only one I can think of... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-21-08 08:22 AM |
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There are no American Jews working in SA? nt |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-21-08 08:44 AM |
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Actually, my call might have been hasty... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-23-08 07:41 AM |
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Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar will not allow anyone whose passports show evidence of a visit to Israel... |
oberliner |
Mar-21-08 08:37 PM |
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I have had to change passports a few times for that reason |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-22-08 12:03 AM |
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If you've had to change it more than once, you're a bit slow on the uptake |
shaayecanaan |
Mar-22-08 04:03 AM |
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Exactly,"everyone" does that. This was the same procedure during South African apartheid days |
Douglas Carpenter |
Mar-22-08 05:46 AM |
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Except if you have an Israeli passport |
Vegasaurus |
Mar-22-08 08:48 AM |
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The usual bullshit applies |
shaayecanaan |
Mar-22-08 09:31 AM |
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Try to go to any Arab country with an Israeli passport |
Vegasaurus |
Mar-23-08 11:07 AM |
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yes |
shaayecanaan |
Mar-23-08 07:32 PM |
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But perhaps Israelis would like to visit their former homelands |
Vegasaurus |
Mar-23-08 07:59 PM |
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Perhaps Palestinians would like to visit theirs |
shaayecanaan |
Mar-24-08 07:22 AM |
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Some people do get caught out once... |
shaayecanaan |
Mar-22-08 10:04 AM |
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First time I was young, more recently I just forgot and felt all the more stupid for it |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-22-08 10:44 AM |
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But of course... |
shaayecanaan |
Mar-23-08 07:38 PM |
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That's a long stretch from a claim that Jews are barred from countries... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-23-08 07:48 AM |
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Israeli-Americans are barred from entering countries that are ostensibly "friendly" to the US |
oberliner |
Mar-23-08 08:52 AM |
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They are not barred from entering those countries using their US passports n/t. |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-24-08 07:29 AM |
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Really? Having seen it first hand, I would disagree with you |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-24-08 09:44 PM |
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Oh, well. If *you* say so, it MUST be true! |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-25-08 06:58 AM |
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I am not happy about ethnic discrimination anywhere... |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-21-08 07:02 AM |
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The US does similar things too |
azurnoir |
Mar-21-08 10:00 AM |
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Here's the latest horror story from the UK |
LeftishBrit |
Mar-21-08 02:27 PM |
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Thank you |
azurnoir |
Mar-21-08 03:16 PM |
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No, there is no such expectation |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-21-08 09:37 AM |
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This is not an issue about entry |
azurnoir |
Mar-21-08 10:12 AM |
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Actually its both |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-21-08 10:34 AM |
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Huh? |
azurnoir |
Mar-21-08 11:01 AM |
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TLV security is about as good as it gets, but its not perfect |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-21-08 11:07 AM |
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Its a sovreignity issue |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-21-08 01:51 AM |
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It is Israel's right. But our gov't should stand behind its own citizens is the point. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-21-08 06:31 AM |
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If it is Israel's right, why should it? |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-21-08 10:35 AM |
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Israel is free to act as racist as it pleases. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-21-08 11:02 AM |
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Its not racist, its profiling |
MaryCeleste |
Mar-21-08 11:09 AM |
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I agree with your first point . . |
msmcghee |
Mar-21-08 11:18 AM |
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Profiling IS racist, at least according to most DEMOCRATS. |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Mar-21-08 04:36 PM |
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Where the hell do you get off talking about the rest of the world? |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-23-08 07:53 AM |
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