Reply #16: yes the pullout from gaza...

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did not meet all the requirements of all the various people/groups/countries/religious groups/UN/HR groups that are interested...and in fact i believe the martians believed it wasnt done as they would have liked?.....

if that is the attitude of the Palestinians and their supporters:

either do it 100% as we see it......or not only wont we acknowledge the attempt to "break the cycle of violence, to make a change", we'll simply use the change to advance our ability to attack and kill.

Not only is that an idiotic attitude, its self defeating (something what should be obvious by now....)

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btw your out of date:
Israel controls all movement in and out of Gaza , with exclusive control over all crossing points between Gaza and Israel , and the ability to shut down the Rafah crossing to Egypt