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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:40 AM
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1. i need some help here....
we withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and since then the Palestinians have been firing rockets on our southern towns This sound bite might fly in the western media;......

remind me again why they're shooting rockets and trying to kill as many israelis as possible daily?
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  -Colonial realities subsuelo  Mar-04-08 07:09 AM   #0 
  - i need some help here....  pelsar   Mar-04-08 07:40 AM   #1 
  - 'Retaliation' is the standard claim employed by both sides  subsuelo   Mar-04-08 07:54 AM   #2 
  - The "reasoning", and I use that word loosely, seems to be about the same on both sides.  bemildred   Mar-04-08 08:09 AM   #3 
  - I think it's a little matter of your 50 year history of human-rights-denying tyranny. nt  ProgressiveMuslim   Mar-04-08 11:07 AM   #7 
     - Actually its quite a bit longer than that in the Muslim nataions  MaryCeleste   Mar-04-08 07:13 PM   #9 
     - I can't believe what I'm reading around here lately  subsuelo   Mar-04-08 07:16 PM   #10 
     - I suggest you read up on how Muslims have treated Bah'ai for much longer than 50 years  MaryCeleste   Mar-05-08 02:11 AM   #11 
        - It shocks me to even have to point this out, but.  subsuelo   Mar-05-08 07:28 AM   #19 
           - Its shocks me that you do not understand the history of the region  MaryCeleste   Mar-05-08 05:58 PM   #20 
              - Fine let's start phrasing all I/P discussion as "Jewish persection of members of the Muslim faith"  subsuelo   Mar-05-08 06:42 PM   #22 
                 - The source of your outrage continues to elude me  MaryCeleste   Mar-05-08 07:25 PM   #23 
                    - Ok, here is a simple question  subsuelo   Mar-05-08 07:38 PM   #24 
                       - Yes if it was a historical fact in context  MaryCeleste   Mar-05-08 08:54 PM   #26 
     - I just trotted off and asked the Bah'ai...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-05-08 04:23 AM   #18 
        - I was pointing out the PKB aspects of the prior post by PM  MaryCeleste   Mar-05-08 06:13 PM   #21 
     - So it is to be expected that when Israel  Shaktimaan   Mar-05-08 02:33 AM   #12 
        - Israel redeployed from the Gaza and doubled the settlement construction plans in the West Bank  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-05-08 02:39 AM   #13 
           - the new settlement building began  Shaktimaan   Mar-05-08 02:58 AM   #14 
              - I don't believe you will find that is accurate at all  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-05-08 03:12 AM   #15 
                 - yes the pullout from gaza...  pelsar   Mar-05-08 03:27 AM   #16 
                    - that is why I specified that this was in reference to a conditions following the Gaza redeployment..  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-05-08 03:37 AM   #17 
                       - You still dont explain  Dick Dastardly   Mar-05-08 08:31 PM   #25 
                          - You should consider separating Hamas/Fatah from the people in Gaza  MaryCeleste   Mar-05-08 09:00 PM   #27 
                          - It is fairly long standing U.S./ Israeli policy to arm Fatah and try to separate Hamas from their  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-05-08 09:42 PM   #28 
                             - Arming Fatah is a more recent evolution  MaryCeleste   Mar-05-08 10:07 PM   #31 
                                - I agree that the rockets should stop..but will that make the Israeli  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-05-08 11:01 PM   #32 
                                   - It will make them stop killing in Gaza  MaryCeleste   Mar-05-08 11:53 PM   #33 
                                      - the West Bank annexation by Jordan was never recognized either  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-06-08 01:25 AM   #34 
                                         - Regardless of the borders, its clear that a Palestinian state will not be a functional country  MaryCeleste   Mar-06-08 08:49 AM   #35 
                                         - While Syria may be the only Arab state to support Hamas  Vegasaurus   Mar-06-08 09:22 AM   #36 
                                            - There is also "private" funding from many sources including the House of Saud  MaryCeleste   Mar-06-08 09:52 AM   #37 
                                            - as far as private funding from the Saudis- what your saying was probably true a few years ago  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-06-08 06:57 PM   #38 
                                            - probably  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-06-08 07:02 PM   #39 
                                               - Are you aware that Syria and Iran announced closer ties today?  MaryCeleste   Mar-06-08 10:09 PM   #40 
                                                  - that would not be the least bit surprising  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-07-08 03:37 AM   #41 
                          - well first of all I don't think the rocket attacks are a good thing  Douglas Carpenter   Mar-05-08 09:59 PM   #30 
  - Your source is not exactly fair and balanced  MaryCeleste   Mar-04-08 09:22 AM   #4 
     - What source is fair and balanced?  subsuelo   Mar-04-08 09:33 AM   #5 
     - It was mostly tone, the ignoring of other key facts, and the  MaryCeleste   Mar-04-08 10:03 AM   #6 
        - There are more than just a few  hifalutin   Mar-05-08 09:43 PM   #29 
     - wouldn't it be great if all reporting and analysis were done by non-Arabs and non-Jews? nt  ProgressiveMuslim   Mar-04-08 11:08 AM   #8 

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