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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:22 AM
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2. You seem convinced that it is Israeli policy to target civilians.
I'm not sure why though. You recognize the difference between targeting civilians and collateral damage, right?

I mean, how do you think this works? That Israel has a secret policy of targeting civilians that no one has spoken out about? I know for a fact that Israel has pretty strict rules of engagement. There will always be soldiers who break these rules, but that is criminal. It doesn't reflect Israeli policy any more than it is American policy to target Iraqi civilians. Yet the amount of Iraqis killed in just a few years exponentially outnumbers deaths due to collateral damage in the OPT.

You seem to be looking at the numbers and then just deciding for yourself that it is unreasonable instead of comparing it to casualty rates in other conflicts.

In terms of fault, we have a set of rules that govern such things. If Palestinian militants launch attacks from populated areas then it is reasonable to expect increased civilian casualties when Israel tries to stop them. In that case the fault rests with the militants; using civilians as shields is what places them at risk. Despite this, Israel routinely calls off attacks when the civilian casualty probability would be too great. If their policy was to disregard, let alone target, civilians then it seems unlikely that this would happen at all.

Israel is unable to defend itself without incurring civilian casualties. So what makes you so certain that they actively target civilians on purpose?
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  - Now we await the excuse makers  subsuelo   Feb-28-08 07:31 PM   #1 
  - You seem convinced that it is Israeli policy to target civilians.  Shaktimaan   Feb-29-08 03:22 AM   #2 
     - ding ding ding! We have our first excuse  subsuelo   Feb-29-08 05:28 AM   #3 
        - Got anything other than mindless propaganda?  Behind the Aegis   Feb-29-08 05:31 AM   #4 
           - Got anything other than insults?  subsuelo   Feb-29-08 05:40 AM   #5 
              - do you believe that it is also american policy to kill Iraqi children? np  Shaktimaan   Feb-29-08 09:29 AM   #6 
              - First of all, it isn't official Israeli policy to kill Palestinian civilians or children.  subsuelo   Feb-29-08 11:21 AM   #7 
              - atually there is an official policy-  pelsar   Feb-29-08 12:13 PM   #17 
                 - well they are not doing a good job living up to the official policy are they  subsuelo   Feb-29-08 12:22 PM   #18 
                    - interesting stats  pelsar   Feb-29-08 02:37 PM   #22 
                       - what are you talking about?  subsuelo   Feb-29-08 02:51 PM   #23 
                          - you make a claim..  pelsar   Feb-29-08 02:57 PM   #24 
                             - You know that half = 50% right  subsuelo   Feb-29-08 02:59 PM   #25 
                                - Even B'Tselem does not make the accusations you do.  Dick Dastardly   Feb-29-08 06:34 PM   #27 
                                - its quite simple....  pelsar   Feb-29-08 11:12 PM   #28 
              - Fuck yes it is, they admit it:  bemildred   Feb-29-08 11:46 AM   #10 
                 - Clinton= Bush= Albright =Rice= Olmert. Dirty rotten warlovers, the whole lot of them.  Tom Joad   Feb-29-08 12:00 PM   #14 
                 - Well, it's probably a mistake to assume this sort of thing was invented by Western politicians.  bemildred   Feb-29-08 12:08 PM   #16 
                    - True enough  azurnoir   Feb-29-08 01:30 PM   #20 
                       - Not usually that candid, no.  bemildred   Feb-29-08 01:36 PM   #21 
                 - Fuck yes, is right  number6   Feb-29-08 05:29 PM   #26 
              - sub, pay no mind to that. This is a guy who posts at a forum that  Tom Joad   Feb-29-08 11:57 AM   #13 
              - Do you?  Behind the Aegis   Feb-29-08 12:33 PM   #19 
  - Next week's title:  Ordr   Feb-29-08 11:36 AM   #8 
  - exactly  subsuelo   Feb-29-08 11:37 AM   #9 
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     - It pains me to say this...  Ordr   Feb-29-08 11:53 AM   #12 
        - Standing up for human rights and international law would make a difference.  Tom Joad   Feb-29-08 12:02 PM   #15 
 

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