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Reply #11: The EUMC definition isn't meant to entrap the BNP, it's meant to define anti-semitism. [View All]

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11. The EUMC definition isn't meant to entrap the BNP, it's meant to define anti-semitism.
The relevance of Lee Barnes' remark is hard to see in this case. Not everything a fascist says is anti-semitic, you know. The BNP has, in the past, attempted to court some extremist Zionist groups - they were rewarded with a frosty reaction to say the least, as well as an internal doctrinal row with their own "more traditional" anti-semitic elements. You appear to be under the impression that the British far right has put anti-semitism behind it - it has not. The existence of Israel is convenient to the BNP - it gives them somewhere to send the Jews. By courting Zionist groups, they are ham-fistedly attempting to triangulate what they see as growing anti-Muslim sentiment, and not getting very far. They've also been making overtures to right-wing Christian groups. And, indeed, everyone who they think will listen.

You have been physically attacked by leading members of the BNP? I urge you to pursue the case under British law.

Incidentally, unless you're working from two definitions of Zionism, how can you be both Zionist and anti-Zionist?

As for "another board", as I was telling someone else scant hours ago, you're behind the times, my account there was closed at my request several weeks ago.
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  How many anti-Zionists does it take to change a lightbulb? TheBaldyMan  Apr-07-07 10:34 PM   #0 
   There's a problem with this debate.  Taxloss   Apr-07-07 10:46 PM   #1 
   that's a point that Mr. Nelsen makes at the end of his blog entry  TheBaldyMan   Apr-07-07 11:27 PM   #3 
   Gee, I just thought someone who hated Jews  Andromeda   Apr-17-07 04:57 AM   #28 
   Another six of one, half a dozen of the other argument.  aquart   Apr-08-07 12:43 AM   #5 
      I think you have me wrong.  Taxloss   Apr-08-07 09:39 AM   #6 
      Anti-semites aren't the only bigots who do it...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-08-07 10:52 AM   #7 
         The EUMC definition isn't meant to entrap the BNP, it's meant to define anti-semitism.  Taxloss   Apr-08-07 03:29 PM   #11 
            I believe Ms. Crumble makes it clear she was quoting Mr. Arthur Nelsen  Douglas Carpenter   Apr-08-07 03:57 PM   #12 
               Well, that explains it. n/t  Taxloss   Apr-08-07 04:03 PM   #13 
      as an example of a position that might possibly be called anti-Zionist but not anti-Semitic  Douglas Carpenter   Apr-08-07 11:17 AM   #8 
      I'll field those hard-hitting questions...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-08-07 11:33 AM   #9 
         Hahahaha.  Shaktimaan   Apr-08-07 09:49 PM   #14 
   Perhaps for some their anti-Zionist comments come from anti-semitism - indeed that was what  papau   Apr-07-07 10:46 PM   #2 
   I was thinking of pro-Palestinian groups.  TheBaldyMan   Apr-07-07 11:46 PM   #4 
      I hope the PA groups are given a pass- as to economic dullards, I went to  papau   Apr-08-07 11:15 PM   #15 
   This whole argument is tiresome.  bemildred   Apr-08-07 12:19 PM   #10 
   But the lines are blurrier than that.  Shaktimaan   Apr-09-07 03:49 AM   #17 
   They are "blurred" deliberately a lot.  bemildred   Apr-09-07 08:37 AM   #18 
      Care to expand on that?  Shaktimaan   Apr-09-07 04:41 PM   #21 
         Please refer to post #10.  bemildred   Apr-09-07 04:59 PM   #22 
            Sooo...  Shaktimaan   Apr-09-07 06:25 PM   #24 
               No, that's not it. nt  bemildred   Apr-09-07 11:40 PM   #25 
   going OT slightly your Mark Twain comment reminded me of  TheBaldyMan   Apr-09-07 03:30 PM   #20 
   I took the test, which in all candor did not impress me much.  bemildred   Apr-09-07 05:42 PM   #23 
   A perfect example:  bemildred   Apr-16-07 01:02 PM   #26 
   I'm anti-innocent people getting killed  Lilith Velkor   Apr-08-07 11:36 PM   #16 
      Well said. nt  bemildred   Apr-09-07 08:37 AM   #19 
      I wonder why I never thought of that.  Andromeda   Apr-17-07 04:36 AM   #27 
 

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