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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 09:34 PM
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27. It won't be. Golda did not believe Palestinians were fully human. In contrast, Rachel
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 10:17 PM by Tom Joad
Corrie saw the humanity of the bulldozer drivers, one of whom ended up murdering her. She wrote at one point ( i can't find a direct quote at the moment) where she wondered about the drivers of the bulldozers, who were about her age, and what music he listens to, and so on. Rachel also wrote of the

"The resistance of Israeli Jewish people to the occupation and the enormous risk taken by those refusing to serve in the Israeli military offers an example, especially for those of us living in the United States, of how to behave when you discover that atrocities are being committed in your name. "

It seems like in the US, it is not required that plays about a controversial subject must be balanced by another perspective.

When Michale Moore's films are played, no one insisted that moviegoers be provided with Republican information as they go in (oth, no one was prevented from passing out such material to people walking toward the theatre, either)
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  -Seattle Jews take on Corrie play Scurrilous  Mar-26-07 06:44 PM   #0 
  - This way may prove to be more constructive  ayeshahaqqiqa   Mar-26-07 06:56 PM   #1 
  - Thanks for posting.  msmcghee   Mar-26-07 06:57 PM   #2 
  - I had read that the US asked for an independent investigation but Israel refused.  breakaleg   Mar-26-07 07:07 PM   #3 
  - Then you read wrong.  msmcghee   Mar-26-07 07:56 PM   #8 
  - I did.  breakaleg   Mar-26-07 09:14 PM   #23 
  - As i posted, the US State Department has always been unsatisfied with the  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 08:21 PM   #11 
  - Thanks for posting that. Such writing is a way of Bulldozing the truth.  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 08:19 PM   #10 
  - Since you take such exception to my statement . .  msmcghee   Mar-26-07 08:41 PM   #14 
     - yes, i think ethnic cleansing is a crime against humanity.  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 08:45 PM   #15 
        - But that's not what I said.  msmcghee   Mar-26-07 08:59 PM   #19 
           - You never explained how you would "encourage" people to leave?  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 09:10 PM   #22 
              - I have no idea what Israel's policies are with respect to . .  msmcghee   Mar-26-07 10:42 PM   #33 
                 - I think it is Israel that has an obsession with Palestine... it has moved 400,000 of its citizens  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 11:21 PM   #41 
                    - Yes, well there's nothing in the Israeli constitution . .  msmcghee   Mar-26-07 11:44 PM   #44 
                    - There is nothing in the Israeli constitution, period.  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 11:52 PM   #45 
                    - Webster defines constitution as . .  msmcghee   Mar-27-07 12:01 AM   #46 
                       - Okay, Webster Dictionary defines the word, no argument there.  Tom Joad   Mar-27-07 12:04 AM   #47 
                    - That is SOOOO DUMB  booley   Apr-13-07 12:53 PM   #104 
                    - I wonder why Israelis would be so obsessed with East Jerusalem.  oberliner   Mar-27-07 12:17 AM   #48 
                       - Go there...it will aid your understanding  Solo_in_MD   Mar-27-07 12:32 AM   #50 
  - Careful, alternative views on the martyrdom of Rachel Corrie are heresy and not allowed here  Solo_in_MD   Mar-26-07 11:21 PM   #42 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-26-07 07:12 PM   #4 
  - This is very telling.  breakaleg   Mar-26-07 07:30 PM   #6 
     - check the links provided on the "additional resources" page,  jonnyblitz   Mar-26-07 07:49 PM   #7 
     - Little Green Footballs, like the site we see MSM post at , celebrates Rachel's death.  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 08:31 PM   #13 
     - Sites that don't have strict moderation . .  msmcghee   Mar-26-07 08:46 PM   #16 
     - Where do you dreay that from?  Solo_in_MD   Mar-26-07 10:36 PM   #31 
     - Rachel Corrie ..  Scurrilous   Mar-27-07 01:27 PM   #60 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-26-07 10:51 PM   #34 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-27-07 10:39 PM   #68 
           - If you think their criticism is unjustified . .  msmcghee   Mar-28-07 09:07 PM   #74 
              - What kind of people post there? I mean, they don't just stop at attacking me, but they have  Tom Joad   Mar-29-07 11:31 PM   #85 
              - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-30-07 03:48 PM   #90 
              - another website describes itself as "Pro-Jewish, Pro-Arab, Pro-Peace"  Tom Joad   Mar-30-07 08:27 PM   #98 
                 - thanx...nice site...  Douglas Carpenter   Apr-06-07 10:20 AM   #101 
     - What about a play about Golda Meir?  oberliner   Mar-26-07 09:02 PM   #20 
     - It won't be. Golda did not believe Palestinians were fully human. In contrast, Rachel  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 09:34 PM   #27 
        - With all due respect, that is a ridiculous statement  oberliner   Mar-26-07 10:41 PM   #32 
           - There are many examples of her speech that dehumanizes Palestinians, but even more so the  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 11:02 PM   #36 
              - In regard to your quote  oberliner   Mar-26-07 11:12 PM   #38 
                 - It is unlawful for nations to take territory by force.  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 11:16 PM   #40 
                    - It is unlawful for people to enter Israel . .  msmcghee   Mar-27-07 12:08 PM   #57 
                       - One is a state, the other are individuals. nt  breakaleg   Mar-27-07 12:57 PM   #59 
                          - It's hard to understand the meaning of your statement.  msmcghee   Mar-29-07 10:29 AM   #76 
                             - The state of Israel is responsble for its actions. Those individual Palestinians are responsible  breakaleg   Mar-29-07 02:19 PM   #78 
                                - My statement was . .  msmcghee   Mar-29-07 02:33 PM   #79 
                                   - Your statement was in response to Toms which said that it was unlawful for a nation to take  breakaleg   Mar-29-07 02:37 PM   #80 
                                      - Hmmm. I was comparing the relative . .  msmcghee   Mar-29-07 03:11 PM   #81 
                                         - Who is able to correct these wrongs? Israel doesn't listen to any international bodies. nt  breakaleg   Mar-29-07 03:41 PM   #82 
                                            - So, you are unable to agree that . .  msmcghee   Mar-29-07 03:46 PM   #83 
                                               - Both are wrong and neither makes the other one right...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-07 02:46 AM   #86 
                                               - It's interesting that you like to ask challenging questions . .  msmcghee   Mar-30-07 09:53 AM   #87 
                                               - It wasn't a challenging question, and I notice you didn't answer it...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-07 06:32 PM   #91 
                                               - Why am I not surprised . .  msmcghee   Mar-30-07 06:45 PM   #92 
                                               - Maybe it'd help if you actually read my posts before replying...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-07 06:56 PM   #93 
                                               - I did see where you said that you don't approve of killing . .  msmcghee   Mar-30-07 07:20 PM   #94 
                                               - I answered yr question in post #86...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-07 07:29 PM   #95 
                                               - Certainly you know that I believe it is wrong . .  msmcghee   Mar-30-07 07:53 PM   #96 
                                               - Try answering the question I asked you...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-07 08:02 PM   #97 
                                               - Why put words in my mouth? AGAIN?  breakaleg   Mar-30-07 10:32 AM   #88 
                                               - It's hard to know how I can put . .  msmcghee   Mar-30-07 10:39 AM   #89 
     - There was no tunnel under this home (that eventually the IDF demolished)  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 10:20 PM   #30 
     - You don't think the situation is complex?  oberliner   Mar-26-07 09:03 PM   #21 
     - At the specific times and context in which it was said to me, it most certainly does.  breakaleg   Mar-26-07 09:35 PM   #28 
        - I think it goes both ways  oberliner   Mar-26-07 10:55 PM   #35 
           - I disagree.  breakaleg   Mar-26-07 11:02 PM   #37 
              - I don't know, I've seen posts recently that have said things like  oberliner   Mar-26-07 11:15 PM   #39 
                 - I saw those as well. That's not the same as what I was writing about. nt  breakaleg   Mar-26-07 11:37 PM   #43 
                    - I just wish people could discuss this conflict with less hyperbole  oberliner   Mar-27-07 12:21 AM   #49 
     - Well, if you took a stance that was strictly anti-Palestinian  Shaktimaan   Mar-27-07 10:29 AM   #52 
  - I'll try to keep open-minded on this, and will welcome ALL verifiable info.  pnorman   Mar-26-07 07:22 PM   #5 
  - What kind of overt anti-Semitism? n/t  rockymountaindem   Mar-26-07 08:08 PM   #9 
  - stuff like this.  Shaktimaan   Mar-27-07 11:20 AM   #55 
     - What a bunch of freaks and assholes n.t.  rockymountaindem   Mar-27-07 12:00 PM   #56 
     - word.  Shaktimaan   Mar-27-07 12:56 PM   #58 
     - Why do you post a link to an Anti-Arab Hate site? A proud defender of Bush's  Tom Joad   Mar-27-07 10:17 PM   #67 
        - A hate site?  Shaktimaan   Mar-28-07 10:07 PM   #75 
  - There is also overt anti-Arab racism that enters these affairs as well.  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 08:26 PM   #12 
  - "A Different Approach"  TomClash   Mar-26-07 08:49 PM   #17 
  - They are too busy defending the likes of John Bolton and the rest of the cast-offs of the Bush  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 08:58 PM   #18 
  - Actually the ADL has been busy working to uphold the rights of gays and lesbians  oberliner   Mar-26-07 09:14 PM   #24 
  - Yes, they can do very good work  TomClash   Mar-26-07 09:17 PM   #25 
  - But you don't deny that they worked long and hard to defend John Bolton,  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 09:36 PM   #29 
  - Great stuff nt  TomClash   Mar-26-07 09:19 PM   #26 
  - Why? Is anyone trying to stop it?  Shaktimaan   Mar-27-07 11:05 AM   #53 
     - No, but there was an attempt to stop its production in New York  TomClash   Mar-27-07 06:57 PM   #62 
        - What happened in New York?  Shaktimaan   Mar-27-07 09:02 PM   #63 
           - The play was supposed to be originally shown  TomClash   Mar-27-07 09:25 PM   #65 
              - How does this abrogate free speech?  eyl   Mar-28-07 05:24 AM   #70 
                 - You're taking the quote out of context. It was in response to the prior post  TomClash   Mar-28-07 05:57 AM   #71 
                    - not talking about  eyl   Mar-29-07 10:32 AM   #77 
                       - Then I guess you didn't read this  TomClash   Mar-29-07 09:30 PM   #84 
  - Aaargh. Another Rachel Corrie thread.  cali   Mar-27-07 04:20 AM   #51 
  - How about those who . .  msmcghee   Mar-27-07 11:08 AM   #54 
  - Yeah, I'm Surprised No One Mentioned Her Burning An American Flag  wellst0nev0ter   Mar-27-07 05:18 PM   #61 
  - I served my country so  TomClash   Mar-27-07 09:30 PM   #66 
  - I Know  wellst0nev0ter   Mar-28-07 08:41 PM   #72 
  - Flags aren't sacred, people are...  Tom Joad   Mar-27-07 10:45 PM   #69 
     - I Wish More People Would Understand That Simple Concept (n/t)  wellst0nev0ter   Mar-28-07 08:42 PM   #73 
  - Put me down for...  Shaktimaan   Mar-27-07 09:09 PM   #64 
  - I saw the play Tuesday evening in Seattle.  msmcghee   Apr-05-07 10:02 AM   #99 
  - Thanks for the info. nt  Phx_Dem   Apr-05-07 10:17 AM   #100 
  - ok, I have a question...  booley   Apr-13-07 12:46 PM   #102 
  - That Rachel Corrie facts site is not operated by her supporters.  breakaleg   Apr-13-07 12:51 PM   #103 
  - I gathered that...  booley   Apr-13-07 01:01 PM   #105 
  - the bulldozer..  pelsar   Apr-13-07 01:54 PM   #106 
     - Whatever.  breakaleg   Apr-13-07 01:55 PM   #107 
  - Zionist Federation? More like the Avigdor Lieberman fan club!  IndianaGreen   Apr-14-07 12:17 AM   #108 
     - Really?  Shaktimaan   Apr-14-07 12:42 AM   # 
     - Really?  Shaktimaan   Apr-14-07 12:42 AM   #109 
 

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