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15. This sounds to me like a distinction without a difference
Edited on Sun Mar-25-07 07:52 AM by Skinner
Oh, I get it. He only said that the regime occupying Israel must vanish from the pages of history. I see. At least he didn't say anything about wiping from maps, because that would really be bad.

His Holocaust-denial conference was totally misunderstood, too.

(Note: This post may contain irony and/or sarcasm.)
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  -Iran's pres never said "Israel must be wiped off the map"--? dorkulon  Mar-24-07 06:03 PM   #0 
  - Yeah, he didn't  Robbien   Mar-24-07 06:04 PM   #1 
  - The US translations  PDJane   Mar-24-07 06:09 PM   #2 
  - This fact needs to be better understood  youngdem   Mar-24-07 06:23 PM   #8 
  - So you are familiar with Sible Edmonds...  Dr_eldritch   Mar-24-07 09:18 PM   #41 
     - I am familiar with Sibel Edmunds  PDJane   Mar-24-07 11:17 PM   #62 
  - That's a total crock. Here's the Al Jazeera translation  barb162   Mar-26-07 12:15 PM   #95 
  - Why let the truth stand in the way of  AnOhioan   Mar-24-07 06:11 PM   #3 
  - My only response is  malaise   Mar-24-07 06:13 PM   #4 
  - If that's true, then why do so many here at DU quote it as truth?  confludemocrat   Mar-24-07 06:14 PM   #5 
  - Because it may be inaccurate but it serves the greater truth  Kagemusha   Mar-24-07 06:15 PM   #6 
  - You're kidding I'm sure, but just in case you aren't,  confludemocrat   Mar-25-07 10:51 AM   #77 
     - It is quite literally what I was told with complete clarity and seriousness  Kagemusha   Mar-25-07 01:54 PM   #81 
  - It's not a "repub talking point" alone, alas-- many Dems use it too.  Malikshah   Mar-24-07 11:36 PM   #65 
  - What is the truth?  BlueJac   Mar-24-07 06:18 PM   #7 
  - The US Corp Media is complicit with the Bush Regime  Disturbed   Mar-24-07 06:31 PM   #9 
  - And this 'real' translation is a comment of peaceful intent?! How?  HypnoToad   Mar-24-07 06:46 PM   #10 
  - Sober reply  wain   Mar-24-07 07:15 PM   #18 
  - There's a big difference  Canuckistanian   Mar-25-07 09:20 AM   #73 
     - Sorry. Ahmadinejad and others refer to Israel as  cali   Mar-25-07 08:15 PM   #86 
  - So it seems.  igil   Mar-24-07 06:47 PM   #11 
  - "I have yet seen anybody argue that the much decried translation wasn't, in fact, accurate..."  scarletwoman   Mar-24-07 08:01 PM   #21 
  - I've seen them.  igil   Mar-24-07 08:46 PM   #29 
     - Whatever. I was countering your statement that no one was arguing that the standard translation was  scarletwoman   Mar-24-07 09:20 PM   #44 
  - I was totally with you until your last sentence...  MLFerrell   Mar-24-07 09:19 PM   #42 
  - True, but he is still nutz imo. nt  skipos   Mar-24-07 06:48 PM   #12 
  - Who cares?  cali   Mar-24-07 06:52 PM   #13 
  - In a way, that sounds worse  Nikia   Mar-24-07 06:53 PM   #14 
  - Really? Because that's how most of us feel about the current US administration  BushOut06   Mar-24-07 09:53 PM   #52 
  - This sounds to me like a distinction without a difference  Skinner   Mar-24-07 06:59 PM   #15 
  - LOL!  cali   Mar-24-07 07:35 PM   #19 
  - The distinction is "regime", as in the "BushCo regime".  BushDespiser12   Mar-24-07 08:40 PM   #26 
  - I think the distinction was "occupying Israel"  Violet_Crumble   Mar-24-07 11:16 PM   #61 
  - This is what he said  bonito   Mar-24-07 08:58 PM   #36 
     - "I will only accept something as truth if I am actually convinced of it"  MLFerrell   Mar-24-07 09:35 PM   #46 
        - Agreed.  bonito   Mar-24-07 09:50 PM   #49 
           - Ding ding ding. We have a winner!  BushDespiser12   Mar-24-07 10:10 PM   #58 
  - translations are the key  junofeb   Mar-24-07 07:00 PM   #16 
  - Speaking as a professional translator...  Bonobo   Mar-24-07 08:21 PM   #23 
     - I once had an editor that insisted that  igil   Mar-24-07 08:51 PM   #30 
     - That's a good one.  Bonobo   Mar-24-07 09:08 PM   #37 
     - Well said!  MLFerrell   Mar-24-07 09:39 PM   #47 
  - From the founder of 'Campaign against sanctions and military intervention in Iran' (CASMII)  oblivious   Mar-24-07 07:12 PM   #17 
  - Oh please.  cali   Mar-24-07 07:54 PM   #20 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-24-07 08:10 PM   #22 
  - A closer translation would be 'annihilated' according to this article  EVDebs   Mar-24-07 10:02 PM   #57 
  - It's odd...how many take at face value..  stillcool47   Mar-24-07 08:35 PM   #24 
  - Yeah, imagine the nerve of anyone criticizing Ahmadinejad.  cali   Mar-24-07 08:42 PM   #27 
     - Hi Cali. I equate Ahmadinejad with Bush. And both citizenries are stuck with  BleedingHeartPatriot   Mar-24-07 10:28 PM   #59 
     - Yep, I agree. n/t  cali   Mar-24-07 10:31 PM   #60 
     - exactly!  stillcool47   Mar-25-07 08:50 AM   #70 
  - I've known this for a while  bonito   Mar-24-07 08:40 PM   #25 
  - That sounds like the difference between telling someone "I'm gonna kill you"  rockymountaindem   Mar-24-07 08:46 PM   #28 
  - No, it's more like the difference between saying "I'm going to kill you" -- which is a threat -- and  scarletwoman   Mar-24-07 08:53 PM   #31 
  - Consider the term "regime". It does (not) equate to a nation. eom  BushDespiser12   Mar-24-07 08:53 PM   #32 
     - Perhaps in most circles.  Behind the Aegis   Mar-24-07 08:56 PM   #34 
        - I concede your point.  BushDespiser12   Mar-24-07 09:09 PM   #38 
  - "and was a direct quotation of Ayatollah Khomeini."  frogcycle   Mar-24-07 08:54 PM   #33 
  - And what about the whole Pope fiasco?  Behind the Aegis   Mar-24-07 08:57 PM   #35 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-24-07 09:15 PM   #39 
  - And this proves....?  Behind the Aegis   Mar-24-07 09:15 PM   #40 
  - "And this proves....?"  MLFerrell   Mar-24-07 09:45 PM   #48 
  - The Jews that came are total nutcases  cali   Mar-24-07 09:19 PM   #43 
     - "Nutcases" to say the least  rockymountaindem   Mar-24-07 09:25 PM   #45 
  - Please  Lithos   Mar-24-07 09:51 PM   #50 
  - Hear, hear! But I can almost guarantee you  cali   Mar-24-07 09:57 PM   #54 
  - If it quacks like a duck? OK  Malikshah   Mar-24-07 11:39 PM   #66 
  - You quote an AFP article. The website just posts AFP and AP news articles, like any US paper.  oblivious   Mar-25-07 01:32 AM   #68 
     - The transcript of the speech  Lithos   Mar-25-07 09:06 AM   #72 
        - Our dear Imam ordered that the occupying regime in Al-Qods be wiped off the face of the earth. This  cali   Mar-25-07 10:25 AM   #75 
  - All the hate. It saddens me greatly.  BushDespiser12   Mar-24-07 09:52 PM   #51 
  - It saddens me greatly to see  cali   Mar-24-07 09:59 PM   #55 
     - I'm in total agreement with you  leftynyc   Mar-26-07 04:52 AM   #88 
  - Oh, and that doesn't mean the same thing? This is pretty fucking lame.  Redstone   Mar-24-07 09:54 PM   #53 
  - I sure that makes Israel feel MUCH better.  Forkboy   Mar-24-07 10:01 PM   #56 
  - I don't think people should make excuses for Holocaust deniers.  Dave From Canada   Mar-24-07 11:24 PM   #63 
  - it won't stop bush and fox news from repeating it EVERY time iran is mentioned  HuffleClaw   Mar-24-07 11:27 PM   #64 
  - It is a good article, but many folks don't want to see their idols smashed.  Malikshah   Mar-24-07 11:45 PM   #67 
  - No. For me it has nothing to do with "wanting an enemy"  cali   Mar-25-07 06:18 AM   #69 
     - Exactly! I'm not sure why so many people have such a hard time admitting that Ahmadinejad is a  Dave From Canada   Mar-25-07 10:18 AM   #74 
     - Simple minds  leftynyc   Mar-26-07 04:56 AM   #89 
     - There are many unhinged folks out there. Many haters.  Malikshah   Mar-25-07 01:17 PM   #80 
        - That is really one of the lamest arguments I have ever heard.  Skinner   Mar-25-07 02:14 PM   #82 
           - Sorry to hear you say that. It appears that the statements of other folks  Malikshah   Mar-25-07 04:37 PM   #83 
              - I am going to back off, because you have explained yourself somewhat.  Skinner   Mar-25-07 05:47 PM   #84 
                 - No -- I have never nor will I ever give Ahmedinejad a pass.  Malikshah   Mar-25-07 09:08 PM   #87 
                    - When people single out Ahmadinejad to  cali   Mar-26-07 05:06 AM   #91 
                       - And the cycle continues.  Malikshah   Mar-26-07 07:34 AM   #92 
                          - It appears to me that you're unable  cali   Mar-26-07 07:44 AM   #93 
                             - I don't rush in in any case. If you wish to try and pin me down and  Malikshah   Mar-26-07 12:02 PM   #94 
                                - Sharon is in a coma  oberliner   Mar-26-07 12:19 PM   #96 
                                   - May he continue to *rest* in peace and be comforted.  Malikshah   Mar-27-07 04:16 PM   #98 
  - It's pretty clear that Ahmadinejad wants Israel to disappear altogether  LeftishBrit   Mar-25-07 08:54 AM   #71 
  - Aren't wars started on the basis of words?  bluedawg12   Mar-25-07 10:25 AM   #76 
  - Take home message: Repub talking points are OK as long as they serve Israel's  confludemocrat   Mar-25-07 11:34 AM   #78 
  - Take home message:  Lithos   Mar-25-07 11:53 AM   #79 
     - Extremely well said (eom)  leftynyc   Mar-26-07 04:59 AM   #90 
  - Did he say it or didn't he...?  kaal   Mar-25-07 06:09 PM   #85 
  - 119 posts on this?  TomClash   Mar-26-07 08:52 PM   #97 
 

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