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Mon Jan-01-07 04:45 AM
Response to Reply #4 |
| 5. its not a matter of 'being right" |
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Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 04:47 AM by pelsar
there is no such thing as an absolute right (outside of fanatics)...if the goal is some form of justice for all, then those who advocate violence are not part of of those goals. The last 50+ years has shown what "justice" had done for the area. and for the Palestinians in paticular....as they keep on losing, their lives, and the violence becomes part and parcel of their society (see gaza) their lives become more and more miserable.
that is the legacy for those who keep on promoting violence as a way to solve problems.....as it should be.
your attempt at equating people who kill as many women an children as possible with the suicide of Masada so as not be slaves is a rather pathetic attempt at moral equivilance....
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| -Ted Honderich's "Right and Wrong and Palestine, 9-11, Iraq, 7-7" review by Swanson |
papau |
Dec-31-06 01:48 PM |
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Dec-31-06 01:58 PM |
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"A little bit of sarcasm intended" - and understood - but the book is a good one on |
papau |
Dec-31-06 11:07 PM |
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Palestinians use nonviolent resistance all the time, and they are an |
Tom Joad |
Jan-02-07 01:27 AM |
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Jan-01-07 01:00 AM |
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Where in that post do i support violence? |
Tom Joad |
Jan-01-07 06:02 PM |
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Jan-02-07 12:26 AM |
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I was being sarcastic, and said that if Israel was such a benovolent nation |
Tom Joad |
Jan-02-07 01:13 AM |
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i apologies.. |
pelsar |
Jan-02-07 04:18 AM |
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There is no democracy in Military Occupation! |
Tom Joad |
Jan-02-07 08:55 AM |
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there are still rules..... |
pelsar |
Jan-02-07 10:02 AM |
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The land lost to Palestinians was great between the 2 intifadahs. |
Tom Joad |
Jan-02-07 12:10 PM |
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and gaza... |
pelsar |
Jan-02-07 03:01 PM |
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How do you figure? |
breakaleg |
Jan-02-07 03:05 PM |
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who is "they".. |
pelsar |
Jan-02-07 03:16 PM |
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Israel. Since you haven't addressed my post, I'll take that as agreement. |
breakaleg |
Jan-02-07 03:21 PM |
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that the settlements expanded? |
pelsar |
Jan-02-07 03:25 PM |
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Yet if they intended to withdraw from that land, why expand them now? |
breakaleg |
Jan-02-07 03:42 PM |
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reverse the question.... |
pelsar |
Jan-02-07 03:53 PM |
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I stand by my water claim, as you put it. |
breakaleg |
Jan-02-07 04:18 PM |
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yes.... |
pelsar |
Jan-02-07 05:17 PM |
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Those quotes in your post - who are you quoting? Because you'd better not |
breakaleg |
Jan-02-07 05:34 PM |
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What are your ideas for a peaceful resolution to this conflict? |
oberliner |
Jan-02-07 05:52 PM |
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Israel needs to pull out of the occupied territories and give Palestinians their own state. |
breakaleg |
Jan-02-07 06:08 PM |
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israel is not benevolent... |
pelsar |
Jan-03-07 04:11 AM |
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Israeli soldiers teach Palestinian children to hate. |
Tom Joad |
Jan-02-07 03:15 PM |
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the palestenian mosques teach hate.... |
pelsar |
Jan-02-07 03:23 PM |
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this "teaching hate" BS has got to end! |
idontwantaname |
Jan-02-07 07:23 PM |
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theres a difference |
pelsar |
Jan-03-07 04:20 AM |
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ah, but thats TV and hamas... |
idontwantaname |
Jan-04-07 06:28 PM |
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but that is part of the landscape now |
pelsar |
Jan-05-07 12:10 AM |
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it still matters why |
idontwantaname |
Jan-05-07 08:52 AM |
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Pelsar it is flat-out disingenous to |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jan-04-07 06:03 PM |
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Do read post #34 |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-04-07 09:33 PM |
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I know |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jan-05-07 05:13 AM |
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And? |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-05-07 12:44 PM |
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a reality show?.... |
pelsar |
Jan-04-07 11:27 PM |
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The land grab excuse was not shown to be false! All those show is that |
breakaleg |
Jan-04-07 11:56 PM |
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and you? |
pelsar |
Jan-05-07 12:09 AM |
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How the heck would I know why? All I know is settlements speak for themselves. |
breakaleg |
Jan-05-07 12:19 AM |
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thats your answer? |
pelsar |
Jan-05-07 12:26 AM |
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Well, |
breakaleg |
Jan-05-07 12:33 AM |
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i dont see the difference between gaza and the westbank |
pelsar |
Jan-05-07 12:58 AM |
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The difference is this: |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jan-05-07 05:24 AM |
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i thought you wanted israel to leave gaza? |
pelsar |
Jan-05-07 08:15 AM |
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The fact that Israel occassionally is forced to give land back |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jan-05-07 05:17 AM |
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i would expect them to hate us... |
pelsar |
Jan-05-07 07:58 AM |
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Jan-02-07 12:04 PM |
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Jan-01-07 07:09 PM |
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It should be unsurprising that the Palestinians use violent resistance. |
Poll_Blind |
Jan-01-07 04:31 AM |
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its not a matter of 'being right" |
pelsar |
Jan-01-07 04:45 AM |
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It's not my moral equivalence. If, as I said, Israel were in the same... |
Poll_Blind |
Jan-01-07 05:32 AM |
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well we hope that is now changing ..... |
pelsar |
Jan-01-07 10:09 AM |
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It worked pretty well in Southern Lebanon. n/t |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Jan-05-07 07:11 AM |
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