Reply #249: dont know if you'll see this but...

[pelsar]

I dont think i explained the main part of what drives my opinion:

There is a vast difference between yr views and those of people I've seen who do support the idea in principle but recognise there will of course be problems turning it into reality

a failed palestenian state, one that cannot control its "loose cannons" (jihadnikim of various colors) means a far more bitter/cruel war in the westbank and to a lesser extent gaza than what is taking place right now.

Its personal...if there is a war, i'll be one of those lobbing mortors into courtyards (and missing while i adjust the aim), i'll be the one trying to decide, do i throw a grenade in the window? do i go in shooting? or do i walk in and "look around"?....in 3 years my son will be in the army, i dont want him to be making those kind of decisions either.

That vast difference i suspect is because a "failed palestenain state" for them is discussion forums, letter writing, forgetting about it, saying now that they've got the west bank, its their problem....for me, its the opposite and far worse then being killed is returning fire and later realizing that the gunman left and a dead family is what he left behind....we'll be living with that and many others for years to come. My anger wont be directed so much at the palestenians but those who helped them to get their state before they were ready to handle it....not all societies at all times can handle the responsability of statehood....failed states exist.