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nicoll Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #31
34. okay
I agree that the militants should lay down all their weapons and do not think Israel should lay down hers. With Israel having weapons are more about defense rather than attack. Maybe I got it all wrong I have always seen the solution to the conflict being the fact that the West Bank and Gaza Strip are separated. My possible solution to is below or at least the bare bone of it.

The Golan heights gives Israel security against Syria and Lebanon. The Golan Heights was annexed by Israel in the early eighties, but this was never recognized by the international community and Syria in particular. Israel needs to keep the Golan Heights and not only that but have Syria to accept it as part of Israel. This is so important for Israeli security because maybe then Syria might stop funding Hezbolhah in Lebanon. How could Israel get the Syrians to do this? It is all about give and take.

If Israel was to give land to the Palestinians to allow the formation of a Palestinian state from the unification of the West Bank and Gaza Strip then it could obtain security with Syria and Lebanon. A unified and newly formed Palestine would have a better chance of being politically stable and economically viable.

West Bank (5860) + Gaza Strip (360) + unification land (5000) giving a total of just over 10,000sq km of land.

This would still leave Israel with 20770 + 1250 (Golan Heights) - 5000 = 17,020sq km of land

Security and a peaceful solution to the conflict are more important than the size of Israel.

Every day the Palestinian people have no state they are like a sponge to extremists.
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  -Abbas tells Israel: 'Don't waste the chance for peace' FernBell  Nov-16-06 05:49 AM   #0 
  - Stop firing missiles, Abbas, then talk about peace  Boston Critic   Nov-16-06 06:01 AM   #1 
  - No less hypocritical  Chulanowa   Nov-16-06 07:03 AM   #4 
  - Ah the old tit-for-tat fallacy  Boston Critic   Nov-16-06 08:51 AM   #8 
  - Mr Abbas does not fire the rockets.  bemildred   Nov-16-06 08:39 AM   #7 
  - If he has no control....  Boston Critic   Nov-16-06 08:54 AM   #9 
     - Indeed, why bother?  bemildred   Nov-16-06 09:32 AM   #13 
  - Abbas isn't firing missiles...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 03:25 AM   #18 
     - What has Abbas done...  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 03:59 PM   #53 
        - He hasn't fired missiles...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:06 PM   #56 
           - Don't dodge the issue  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:19 PM   #67 
              - The issue is that you claimed he fired missiles...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:25 PM   #72 
                 - Again, quit dodging  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 05:17 PM   #101 
                    - I'm not the one doing the dodging...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 05:19 PM   #103 
                       - Asked and answered....  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 05:17 AM   #151 
                          - The FACT is that Abbas didn't fire missiles...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 02:01 PM   #167 
                             - And still you dodge...  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 02:57 PM   #174 
                                - No, I'm pointing out you made a false claim in yr earlier post...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 03:00 PM   #175 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 03:04 PM   #177 
                                      - I don't. I merely corrected yr incorrect claim about Abbas...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 03:13 PM   #181 
                                         - Spin, spin, spin  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:15 PM   #183 
                                            - So stop spinning and answer the question you were asked...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 03:18 PM   #185 
                                               - Again, what has he done...  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:20 PM   #188 
                                                  - I didn't spot you answering the question you were asked...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 03:26 PM   #192 
                                                     - Why do keep dodging?  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:43 PM   #198 
                                                     - What exactly am I supposed to be dodging?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 04:37 PM   #207 
                                                     - Where has Abbas DONE anything to stop terrorism?  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 05:44 PM   #215 
                                                     - Abbas has done nothing to stop the terrorism  barb162   Nov-20-06 01:34 PM   #252 
                                                     - Excuse my intrusion as a third party, but . .  msmcghee   Nov-18-06 03:50 PM   #202 
                                                     - No-one asked you to butt in,,,  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 04:35 PM   #206 
                                                     - Shrill attacks?  msmcghee   Nov-18-06 04:43 PM   #210 
                                                     - Yep, shrill attacks...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 04:48 PM   #212 
                                                     - I'm willing to address your arguments at any time . .  msmcghee   Nov-18-06 05:12 PM   #214 
                                                     - My arguments are set out seriously...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 06:21 PM   #220 
                                                     - OK - Let's stop criticising each others' style . .  msmcghee   Nov-18-06 07:51 PM   #233 
                                                     - I'd be all for that, but with a slight change of topic to start with...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 08:31 PM   #234 
                                                     - Cool.  msmcghee   Nov-18-06 08:39 PM   #235 
                                                     - Politely noting that . . .  msmcghee   Nov-20-06 10:07 AM   #250 
                                                     - After seeing some of yr very recent posts in this forum...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-20-06 11:54 PM   #253 
                                                     - Ask me if I'm surprised.  msmcghee   Nov-21-06 12:10 AM   #254 
                                                     - Well, seeing I pegged yr attitude accurately, you shouldn't be surprised..  Violet_Crumble   Nov-21-06 12:16 AM   #255 
                                                     - oopsie...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 04:49 PM   #213 
  - Israel knows how to achieve peace...they don't want peace, they want land  NOLADEM   Nov-16-06 06:02 AM   #2 
  - The theft will never be complete  sweetheart   Nov-16-06 06:12 AM   #3 
  - Right, and they will still be claiming they have "no one to negotiate with."  treestar   Nov-16-06 07:05 AM   #5 
  - Why negotiate with Abbas?  Boston Critic   Nov-16-06 08:58 AM   #11 
  - as the Israeli's continued and unabating invasions  PCIntern   Nov-16-06 07:19 AM   #6 
  - Land grab  Boston Critic   Nov-16-06 08:57 AM   #10 
  - I think they mean...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:12 PM   #59 
     - According to whom?  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:21 PM   #68 
        - International law...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:33 PM   #79 
           - There is no sovereign nation called "Palestine"...  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 05:21 PM   #104 
              - And there was never a sovereign nation called 'East Timor'  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 05:28 PM   #107 
  - Truer words were never spoken.  breakaleg   Nov-16-06 10:36 AM   #16 
  - UN Human Rights Charter Article 13  nicoll   Nov-16-06 09:24 AM   #12 
  - international city  sabbat hunter   Nov-16-06 09:56 AM   #14 
  - research...  pelsar   Nov-16-06 10:27 AM   #15 
     - Question for pelsar...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 03:27 AM   #19 
        - That's a good question, Vi.  Englander   Nov-17-06 08:16 AM   #23 
        - yes...  pelsar   Nov-17-06 08:23 AM   #24 
           - okay  nicoll   Nov-17-06 08:40 AM   #26 
           - the problem is not economic  pelsar   Nov-17-06 08:52 AM   #27 
              - No the problem is being split in to two parts trying to form one state  nicoll   Nov-17-06 10:02 AM   #29 
                 - the problem is far beyond the mere physical parts....  pelsar   Nov-17-06 10:13 AM   #30 
                    - don't they want a Palestinian state then  nicoll   Nov-17-06 11:00 AM   #32 
                    - a single country?  pelsar   Nov-17-06 12:08 PM   #37 
                       - It is part of the problem  nicoll   Nov-17-06 05:07 PM   #99 
                    - The US clearly isn't viable...  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:02 PM   #55 
                       - Right back from the start  nicoll   Nov-17-06 05:23 PM   #105 
           - No, that's not what I'm reading in yr posts...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 01:33 PM   #38 
              - start with jerusalem....  pelsar   Nov-17-06 04:18 PM   #65 
              - Do you support East Jerusalem being the Palestinian capital?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:42 PM   #85 
                 - honesty...  pelsar   Nov-17-06 04:48 PM   #91 
                    - More honesty...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:52 PM   #93 
                       - it was an article....  pelsar   Nov-17-06 05:05 PM   #97 
                          - Quick question...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 05:17 PM   #102 
                             - Triangle region..  pelsar   Nov-17-06 05:32 PM   #111 
                                - Thanks...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 05:40 PM   #115 
              - dont know if you'll see this but...  pelsar   Nov-20-06 09:53 AM   #249 
  - 50 - 50 split of the 26,990sq km of land  nicoll   Nov-17-06 02:51 AM   #17 
     - Can we get the facts straight please?  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 05:47 AM   #20 
        - okay I stand corrected on that  nicoll   Nov-17-06 07:42 AM   #21 
        - economically viability....  pelsar   Nov-17-06 08:36 AM   #25 
        - There's the rub...  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:07 PM   #57 
        - I wouldn't be so quick to believe what was posted...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 05:13 PM   #100 
           - Feel free to refute the facts  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 05:24 PM   #106 
              - If there were facts to refute I would...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 05:31 PM   #109 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:21 AM   #152 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 02:05 PM   #168 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 03:02 PM   #176 
                          - There's nothing empty about knowing citations don't make things true...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 03:11 PM   #179 
                             - Calling your bluff  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:14 PM   #182 
                                - Please try reading the post you replied to...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 03:17 PM   #184 
                                   - I accept your concession  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:22 PM   #189 
                                      - If you can't get what I say straight, then it'd be best to put me on ignore...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 03:30 PM   #193 
                                         - It's okay -- I accepted your concession  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:44 PM   #199 
                                            - Again, you claim I've said something I haven't said...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 04:30 PM   #205 
                                               - It's over, you lost, get used to it  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 05:47 PM   #216 
                                                  - This isn't a game where people win or lose...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 06:24 PM   #221 
                                                     - You can run but you can't hide  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 07:07 PM   #225 
                                                     - How many tired out pointless cliches do you have under yr belt?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 07:12 PM   #226 
                                                     - How many false accusations...  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 07:16 PM   #228 
                                                     - Probably far less than yr false claims and accusations...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 07:26 PM   #231 
                                                     - To the contrary  Boston Critic   Nov-19-06 05:34 AM   #236 
                                                     - You sure have a lot of them in this thread yourself  barb162   Nov-20-06 01:26 PM   #251 
        - Deir Yassin = massacre.  Englander   Nov-17-06 08:11 AM   #22 
           - Do not want to know who ir right or wrong - just want peace!!  nicoll   Nov-17-06 09:25 AM   #28 
              - Thank you for your common sense.  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 10:16 AM   #31 
                 - Okay  nicoll   Nov-17-06 11:18 AM   #33 
                 - okay  nicoll   Nov-17-06 11:20 AM   #34 
                 - As this post is similar to one in an adjacent thread . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 11:34 AM   #35 
                 - Where are you getting these 'facts' from?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 01:50 PM   #39 
                    - Hi Violent . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 02:06 PM   #40 
                       - Hi MrMagoo...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 02:27 PM   #41 
                       - Heh . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 02:38 PM   #43 
                       - I gave you an example to prove you were wrong...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 02:43 PM   #44 
                          - Silence on the other one I gave you?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 03:43 PM   #48 
                          - Kick n/t  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 02:06 PM   #169 
                          - You say . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 03:45 PM   #49 
                             - Okay, so you think the Palestinian people are monsters...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 03:50 PM   #50 
                             - You seem to be lumping the views of extremist Palestinians in with  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 03:54 PM   #51 
                                - Extremist Palestinians?  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:14 PM   #61 
                                   - read the post I was responding to and see exactly who he is referring  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 04:25 PM   #71 
                                      - My words were . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 04:30 PM   #78 
                                         - Here's yr exact words...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:38 PM   #83 
                                         - You have to look at your entire post...  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 04:39 PM   #84 
                                            - Read the following two paragraphs . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 04:46 PM   #88 
                                            - You just called Palestinians monsters and I have something to be ashamed of?  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 04:47 PM   #90 
                                            - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-17-06 04:56 PM   #95 
                                            - Maybe you could clarify yr position now?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:48 PM   #92 
                       - Here's a big clue  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:12 PM   #60 
                          - Here's a bigger hint...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:18 PM   # 
                             - nice dodge  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:23 PM   #69 
                                - No dodge at all....just reality...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:28 PM   #75 
                                   - Still dodging  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 05:28 PM   #108 
                                      - Change the record...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 05:35 PM   #112 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:27 AM   #153 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 03:12 PM   #180 
                                         - These are lies  Boston Critic   Nov-19-06 05:41 AM   #238 
                       - Would you be interested in doing more reading on the subject?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 02:32 PM   #42 
                          - Obviously not...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 02:44 PM   #45 
                             - I did have a post ready to go . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 03:22 PM   #46 
                                - I'm not suggesting yr comment was a bigoted one...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 03:42 PM   #47 
                                   - Look, I could care less . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 03:54 PM   #52 
                                      - I'm not insulting you...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:01 PM   #54 
                                         - I have no interest in whether you think my . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 04:16 PM   #63 
                                         - I thought you were done...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:24 PM   #70 
                                            - Like I said, "All the rest is just ugly games you are playing with the lives of others." nt  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 04:26 PM   #74 
                                               - Saying yr comment is bigoted isn't doing that at all n/t  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:28 PM   #76 
                                         - That's nonsense  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:17 PM   #64 
                                            - No, it's not...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:30 PM   #77 
                                               - For the record . . these are my words . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 04:34 PM   #80 
                                               - Here's where you called the Palestinian population monsters...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:36 PM   #82 
                                               - That's all you've got?  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 04:42 PM   #86 
                                               - That's all that's needed...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:46 PM   #89 
                                               - Word games . . all of it.  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 04:55 PM   #94 
                                               - How is what you said 'word games'?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 05:02 PM   #96 
                                               - How pathetic. nt  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 05:05 PM   #98 
                                               - I'm glad you now agree that it was pathetic...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 06:07 PM   #118 
                                               - self delete / dupe  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 04:44 PM   #87 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-17-06 05:36 PM   #113 
                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:32 AM   #154 
                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 02:12 PM   #171 
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                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 03:46 PM   #200 
                                                  - I can't force you to read them either unfortunately...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 04:39 PM   #208 
                                                  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:49 PM   #217 
                                                  - Yet again: I do NOT support missile attacks on Israeli civilians...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 06:33 PM   #224 
                 - Addendum to above:  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 12:07 PM   #36 
                 - That's it in a nutshell  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:09 PM   #58 
                    - No, it's not...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:14 PM   #62 
                       - Israel is *defending* itself  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:18 PM   #66 
                       - Is there an alternate dictionary that Israel's supporters use that I'm unaware of?  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 06:00 PM   #116 
                          - Heh, heh . . just like 99.9 of US actions in WWII. nt  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 06:03 PM   #117 
                          - So because the US did it, it makes it ok for Israel to do it as well?  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 06:08 PM   #119 
                          - It's really a simple concept.  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 06:31 PM   #121 
                             - Well,  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 06:42 PM   #123 
                                - Whether you think Israel's actions are working or . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 06:54 PM   #125 
                                   - "anything within reason" is why we are having this discussion.  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 07:03 PM   #127 
                                      - Yes, 'within reason' were the two words that stood out...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 07:09 PM   #129 
                                      - Hmmm.  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 07:32 PM   #132 
                                         - And that has zero to do with what I said in my post...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 08:01 PM   #136 
                                      - Well, OK. Let's look at that.  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 07:16 PM   #130 
                                      - International law does not allow that at all...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 07:23 PM   #131 
                                      - If I recall it was Germany's general officers that stood trial . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 07:40 PM   #133 
                                         - So there is no bit of international law that says that at all...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 07:54 PM   #134 
                                         - Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say.  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 11:25 PM   #150 
                                         - Well, seeing as there was no bit of international law, it was a safe guess...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 02:45 PM   #173 
                                         - The moral equivalency argument IS sickening  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 05:45 AM   #157 
                                         - That's nice but I wasn't using that argument...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 01:58 PM   #166 
                                         - Spin, spin, spin  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:18 PM   #186 
                                         - Could you try addressing the posts yr replying to?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 03:20 PM   #187 
                                         - Can you deal with the facts...  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:24 PM   #190 
                                         - I'd like you to address my posts if yr replying to them...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 03:32 PM   #195 
                                      - Well,  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 08:21 PM   #143 
                                         - Did you really consider that a debate? You have seldom . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 10:50 PM   #147 
                                         - The occupation is imaginary? Can I have whatever you are smoking?  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 10:55 PM   #148 
                                         - There's an "occupation?"  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 05:49 AM   #159 
                                         - You obviously missed my post about East Timor....  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 02:09 PM   #170 
                                         - in post #34,your words " imaginary Palestine state". So make up your mind  breakaleg   Nov-17-06 11:01 PM   #149 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:48 AM   #158 
                                            - I'm not denying anything.  breakaleg   Nov-18-06 10:43 AM   #164 
                                      - Why do Israel's critics feel they have to lie?  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 05:39 AM   #156 
                          - Newsflash: the US wasn't defending itself during most of WWII...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 06:11 PM   #120 
                             - Your posts are becoming more absurd and . .  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 06:36 PM   #122 
                             - Care to try logic rather than insults?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 06:44 PM   #124 
                                - It just keeps getting better. nt  msmcghee   Nov-17-06 06:59 PM   #126 
                                   - Well, if you think a refusal to answer questions or address points is a benchmark...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 07:04 PM   #128 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:53 AM   #160 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:34 AM   #155 
                       - Yes, actually, it is  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 04:26 PM   #73 
                          - It's a silly sound-byte...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 04:35 PM   #81 
                             - I don't share your false view...  Boston Critic   Nov-17-06 05:31 PM   #110 
                                - Expecting both to lay down arms and live in peace is a 'false view'??  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 05:39 PM   #114 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-17-06 07:59 PM   #135 
                                   - A good start would be...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 08:03 PM   #137 
                                      - If civilians  hossman   Nov-17-06 08:04 PM   #138 
                                         - Try again...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 08:06 PM   #139 
                                            - So you are saying  hossman   Nov-17-06 08:08 PM   #140 
                                            - No, what I'm saying is what I said in the post yr replying to....  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 08:14 PM   #141 
                                               - gun-lobby RW sillyscenarios?  hossman   Nov-17-06 08:21 PM   #142 
                                               - Let me spell this out very slowly for you...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 08:26 PM   #144 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-17-06 08:36 PM   #145 
                                               - Spelling it out even slower...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-17-06 09:26 PM   #146 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:59 AM   #163 
                                            - No, you try again...  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 05:58 AM   #162 
                                               - Logic and common sense are saying yr wrong...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 01:53 PM   #165 
                                                  - Let me spell out for YOU  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:32 PM   #194 
                                                     - That's some mighty incorrect spelling yr using....  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 03:37 PM   #196 
                                                     - Are you interested in a discussion?  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:50 PM   #201 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 03:40 PM   #197 
                                                     - Are you denying...  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 03:52 PM   #203 
                                                     - Of course the missile attacks are retaliatory...that is NOT supporting terrorism...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 04:42 PM   #209 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:51 PM   #218 
                                                     - I have never supported terrorism so knock that shit off...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 06:31 PM   #223 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 07:14 PM   #227 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 07:21 PM   #230 
                                   - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:56 AM   #161 
                                      - And where have I ever claimed otherwise?  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 02:22 PM   #172 
                                         - But yet you did  Boston Critic   Nov-18-06 04:03 PM   #204 
                                            - There's a difference between 'retaliatory' and 'self-defence'  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 04:46 PM   #211 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 05:54 PM   #219 
                                                  - They most definately are retaliatory...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-18-06 06:27 PM   #222 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 07:18 PM   #229 
                                                        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-06 07:30 PM   #232 
                                                        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-19-06 05:37 AM   #237 
                                                        - MESSAGE TO ALL PARTICIPANTS OF THIS THREAD  nicoll   Nov-19-06 09:30 AM   #239 
                                                        - scotty....  pelsar   Nov-19-06 09:39 AM   #240 
                                                        - Better response please.  nicoll   Nov-19-06 09:51 AM   #241 
                                                        - Nicoll, the reason your suggestion is unrealistic . .  msmcghee   Nov-19-06 10:52 AM   #243 
                                                        - you are just going down the path of blame  nicoll   Nov-19-06 11:56 AM   #246 
                                                        - The responses have given you your answer  Lithos   Nov-19-06 11:20 AM   #245 
                                                        - Nicoll...  breakaleg   Nov-19-06 10:23 AM   #242 
                                                        - okay  nicoll   Nov-19-06 11:08 AM   #244 
                                                        - I agree with what you said...  Violet_Crumble   Nov-19-06 03:59 PM   #247 
                                                        - some question for you violet crumble  nicoll   Nov-20-06 08:13 AM   #248 
 

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