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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. I think you missed my point
There are quite a few far RW-oriented groups who are attempting to mainstream their hate and are currently doing so under the cover of the left. This is a fact that is not worth the time to go into. They are doing so by using the language of the left and a basic ignorance which exists for many involved in this rather complicated situation. Ignorance is not stupidity but that doesn't mean it, especially willful ignorance or what I call knowledge bias/blindness, can't occasionally be used by others. And yes, it does happen.

As for your focus on the subject covered in point 2 several posts higher in the thread, there are those involved in the greater I/P debate who see anti-Semitism in any criticism of Israel. Such a view is of course not only wrong, but simple to the point of being hypocritical. Yes, there is anti-Semitism out there which must be excised along with any anti-Islamic/Arabic bigotry, but criticism of Israel and the PA are both necessary and healthy components of any debate which respectfully considers any benefit to the people of both Israel and Palestine.

As to your statement, please review what you just said.

One issue that pro-Israel apologists have is that they are unable to see to sides of the coin. The rhetorical tools at the disposal of these gentlemen are multi-faceted, and quite unfair. For instance, they enjoy a closer familiarity with the halls of power in the west, they have a greater facility with english - the lingua franca of the world, and they also have the ability to shut a debate down by raising the 'anti-semitism' flag, and also the 'holocaust' flag.


It sounds like you are saying there are a group of people in power working behind the scenes here who are controlling the situation. True?



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  -Criticize Israel? You're an Anti-Semite! bridgit  Sep-01-06 08:18 PM   #0 
  - Been there, done that  TechBear_Seattle   Sep-01-06 08:22 PM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-01-06 08:52 PM   #4 
  - Well I don't give a shit what they call me,  JohnyCanuck   Sep-01-06 08:36 PM   #2 
  - I don't care if they call me one. I know I'm not an anti-semite. It is a  higher class   Sep-01-06 09:00 PM   #5 
     - it doesnt matter what you want  sabbat hunter   Sep-02-06 09:46 AM   #12 
  - This place is evidence that everything in that article says is true.  breakaleg   Sep-01-06 08:41 PM   #3 
  - how many times....  pelsar   Sep-02-06 01:32 AM   #7 
     - I've been called one...  Violet_Crumble   Sep-02-06 02:36 AM   #8 
     - i know it happens....  pelsar   Sep-02-06 02:59 AM   #10 
     - Of course you're not an anti-Semite.  geek tragedy   Sep-02-06 12:52 PM   #13 
        - Excellent summary  Lithos   Sep-02-06 01:53 PM   #14 
           - Yes, the real problem is that those whose agenda is driven  geek tragedy   Sep-02-06 02:12 PM   #15 
           - You are hewing close to endorsing a Thought Police.  IntiRaymi   Sep-02-06 03:40 PM   #16 
              - I think you missed my point  Lithos   Sep-02-06 06:40 PM   #17 
              - It sounds like I am acknowledging influence.  IntiRaymi   Sep-02-06 09:31 PM   #19 
              - As far as proof that the extreme right isn't trying to penetrate  geek tragedy   Sep-03-06 07:41 AM   #27 
              - Further proof of how the extreme right can fool people on the left:  geek tragedy   Sep-03-06 09:17 AM   #30 
              - For your answer  Lithos   Sep-03-06 01:22 PM   #32 
              - as defined as a "pro israeli apologist....  pelsar   Sep-03-06 02:17 AM   #25 
              - Actually, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-02-06 06:57 PM   #18 
                 - Why do you insist on reading what isn't there?  IntiRaymi   Sep-02-06 09:33 PM   #20 
                 - Please  cali   Sep-02-06 10:51 PM   #22 
                 - It happens to me often.  IntiRaymi   Sep-02-06 10:53 PM   #23 
                    - kudos to you  cali   Sep-03-06 07:25 AM   #26 
                 - Having Noted Your Apology Elsewhere, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-03-06 01:06 PM   #31 
                 - What do you mean by "opposed to Israel"?  breakaleg   Sep-02-06 09:58 PM   #21 
                    - A Term Of Convenience, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-03-06 08:39 AM   #29 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-02-06 02:52 AM   #9 
  - The concept of antisemitism is a tool of Israeli foreign policy.  IntiRaymi   Sep-01-06 09:43 PM   #6 
  - I think it's losing its effect just like 'anti-American' did.  oblivious   Sep-02-06 07:28 AM   #11 
  - Criticizing Israel Is Like Criticizing A Friend's Mother  wellst0nev0ter   Sep-03-06 12:53 AM   #24 
     - That was a criticism of the Israeli government, and would  geek tragedy   Sep-03-06 07:48 AM   #28 
     - That Is A Pretty Funny Screed, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-03-06 02:46 PM   #33 
 

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