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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 02:12 PM
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15. Yes, the real problem is that those whose agenda is driven
by hate infiltrate liberal and leftwing movements and attempt to turn or convert people into buying into classic anti-semitic imagery and theories.

The motifs and paradigms of the haters are easily digested and provide simple answers. Why does the US tilt its foreign policy in favor of a certain faction of Israel? Why, because it's a secret cabal of Jews control the Bush administration? What about public support for Israel? Why, that's because the Zionists control the media? Not to mention the whole "Jewish Lobby" theories, which blame Jewish groups for things like the Iraq war (as if Cheney and Bush were pushed into that conflict by some noisy Jews!).

The simplicity is the power of the Neocon narrative--either you're a pro-Israel Likudnik or you're an anti-Israel activist.

A fundamental point that is never made in American politics: The best way to be pro-Israel is for the United States to tell Israel when it is wrong, and to try to actually SOLVE problems instead of egging on the Likudnik elements and cheerleading bombing raids.

Would a truly pro-Israel administration cheerlead Israel into bombing Lebanon while excluding Syria and Iran--the two states who could actually restrain Hezbollah--from the negotiations? How on earth does that even make sense?
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  -Criticize Israel? You're an Anti-Semite! bridgit  Sep-01-06 08:18 PM   #0 
  - Been there, done that  TechBear_Seattle   Sep-01-06 08:22 PM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-01-06 08:52 PM   #4 
  - Well I don't give a shit what they call me,  JohnyCanuck   Sep-01-06 08:36 PM   #2 
  - I don't care if they call me one. I know I'm not an anti-semite. It is a  higher class   Sep-01-06 09:00 PM   #5 
     - it doesnt matter what you want  sabbat hunter   Sep-02-06 09:46 AM   #12 
  - This place is evidence that everything in that article says is true.  breakaleg   Sep-01-06 08:41 PM   #3 
  - how many times....  pelsar   Sep-02-06 01:32 AM   #7 
     - I've been called one...  Violet_Crumble   Sep-02-06 02:36 AM   #8 
     - i know it happens....  pelsar   Sep-02-06 02:59 AM   #10 
     - Of course you're not an anti-Semite.  geek tragedy   Sep-02-06 12:52 PM   #13 
        - Excellent summary  Lithos   Sep-02-06 01:53 PM   #14 
           - Yes, the real problem is that those whose agenda is driven  geek tragedy   Sep-02-06 02:12 PM   #15 
           - You are hewing close to endorsing a Thought Police.  IntiRaymi   Sep-02-06 03:40 PM   #16 
              - I think you missed my point  Lithos   Sep-02-06 06:40 PM   #17 
              - It sounds like I am acknowledging influence.  IntiRaymi   Sep-02-06 09:31 PM   #19 
              - As far as proof that the extreme right isn't trying to penetrate  geek tragedy   Sep-03-06 07:41 AM   #27 
              - Further proof of how the extreme right can fool people on the left:  geek tragedy   Sep-03-06 09:17 AM   #30 
              - For your answer  Lithos   Sep-03-06 01:22 PM   #32 
              - as defined as a "pro israeli apologist....  pelsar   Sep-03-06 02:17 AM   #25 
              - Actually, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-02-06 06:57 PM   #18 
                 - Why do you insist on reading what isn't there?  IntiRaymi   Sep-02-06 09:33 PM   #20 
                 - Please  cali   Sep-02-06 10:51 PM   #22 
                 - It happens to me often.  IntiRaymi   Sep-02-06 10:53 PM   #23 
                    - kudos to you  cali   Sep-03-06 07:25 AM   #26 
                 - Having Noted Your Apology Elsewhere, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-03-06 01:06 PM   #31 
                 - What do you mean by "opposed to Israel"?  breakaleg   Sep-02-06 09:58 PM   #21 
                    - A Term Of Convenience, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-03-06 08:39 AM   #29 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-02-06 02:52 AM   #9 
  - The concept of antisemitism is a tool of Israeli foreign policy.  IntiRaymi   Sep-01-06 09:43 PM   #6 
  - I think it's losing its effect just like 'anti-American' did.  oblivious   Sep-02-06 07:28 AM   #11 
  - Criticizing Israel Is Like Criticizing A Friend's Mother  wellst0nev0ter   Sep-03-06 12:53 AM   #24 
     - That was a criticism of the Israeli government, and would  geek tragedy   Sep-03-06 07:48 AM   #28 
     - That Is A Pretty Funny Screed, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-03-06 02:46 PM   #33 

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