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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 07:55 PM
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5. there are a lot of "what if" question in this conflict Sir.
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 07:58 PM by Douglas Carpenter
And I certainly don't think shooting the rockets is an acceptable practice either morally or politically.

But if my memory serves me correctly collective punishment is still a crime under international law. Shooting at ambulance drivers, engaging in indiscriminate attacks on civilians including unprovoked shooting into crowds of unarmed civilians including children is definitely a crime under international law. Using civilians including children as human shields is undeniably a war crime under international law. All of this is confirmed by every credible independent human rights organization on earth including all the leading Israeli human rights organizations. They all seem to report almost exactly the same things.

But still, what if Israel had not massively expanded settlements during the 90's in the first place; bull dozing house and building apartheid roads throughout the occupied Palestinian territories including the Gaza thus strangulating the economy and even normal life?

What if Israel had not imposed closure, creating massive unemployment and then isolating the Gaza off effectively from the rest of the world?

What if Israel had not engaged in the systematic destruction of the Palestinian civil authorities and much of the Palestinian civilian infrastructure?

What if Israel had engaged in serious dialogue with the Fatah-lead Palestinian authorities?

What if for just one minute the American people could put themselves in the position of the vanquished rather than the victor?
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  -Hope buried for Gaza's old settlements Englander  Aug-29-06 02:41 AM   #0 
  - makes one wonder....  pelsar   Aug-29-06 03:51 AM   #1 
  - Not all the wreckage was wreckage when the Israelis left.  igil   Aug-29-06 02:13 PM   #2 
  - How are they to make a success in Gaza if they can't import  breakaleg   Aug-29-06 02:35 PM   #3 
     - As A Matter Of Curiousity, Sir  The Magistrate   Aug-30-06 12:23 PM   #4 
     - there are a lot of "what if" question in this conflict Sir.  Douglas Carpenter   Aug-30-06 07:55 PM   #5 
     - And A Similar List, Sir, Could Be Compiled For The Other Side  The Magistrate   Aug-31-06 10:25 AM   #7 
        - I know from personal experience that Palestinians are a kindly and good  Douglas Carpenter   Aug-31-06 07:12 PM   #19 
        - It Is Certainly True, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-03-06 04:11 PM   #33 
        - regarding your question regarding the temperament of partisans  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-01-06 12:58 AM   #22 
        - In My View, Sir  The Magistrate   Sep-03-06 04:44 PM   #34 
           - I think International law and the international consensus should be the  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-04-06 03:37 AM   #36 
        - of this i am sure of.....  pelsar   Sep-02-06 02:21 AM   #26 
           - since there is already a power struggle between Fatah and Hamas  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-02-06 03:19 AM   #27 
              - the power struggle is just beginning....  pelsar   Sep-02-06 04:56 AM   #28 
                 - I do not believe most supporters of Hamas actually have any desire  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-02-06 09:58 AM   #29 
                    - Hamas and Gaza...  pelsar   Sep-02-06 11:51 PM   #30 
                       - but what are the alternatives?  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-03-06 04:16 AM   #31 
                          - down the line 10years?....  pelsar   Sep-03-06 06:03 AM   #32 
                             - regarding your statement  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-03-06 11:32 PM   #35 
     - I don't know.  breakaleg   Aug-30-06 08:22 PM   #6 
        - Why Is It Unreasonable, Sir, To Expect The Rockets To Stop?  The Magistrate   Aug-31-06 10:26 AM   #8 
           - The rockets are stupid and ineffective Sir.  bemildred   Aug-31-06 10:31 AM   #9 
           - No, it isn't.  breakaleg   Aug-31-06 11:42 AM   #10 
              - yet israel DID make the move....  pelsar   Aug-31-06 12:08 PM   #11 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-31-06 02:25 PM   #13 
              - They left, but stil control daily life in Gaza by  breakaleg   Aug-31-06 02:29 PM   #14 
                 - fun facts...for those who have trouble  pelsar   Aug-31-06 04:36 PM   #17 
                    - the long way around from Gaza to the West Bank is pretty damn long  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-01-06 12:20 AM   #21 
                       - it should also be mentioned that one goes thru several Israeli checkpoints  Douglas Carpenter   Sep-02-06 01:09 AM   #24 
                          - i dont doubt its length....  pelsar   Sep-02-06 01:29 AM   #25 
              - The Point Is Not Criticism, Sir  The Magistrate   Aug-31-06 03:52 PM   #16 
                 - Negotiation.  breakaleg   Aug-31-06 05:54 PM   #18 
     - export?.....  pelsar   Aug-31-06 12:18 PM   #12 
        - That will be the day  cracksquirrel   Aug-31-06 03:24 PM   #15 
           - How do you know that?  Douglas Carpenter   Aug-31-06 07:14 PM   #20 
              - I don't know for certain  cracksquirrel   Sep-01-06 12:03 PM   #23 
 

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