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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-02-06 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. If Israel attacks
Palestine, that is provoking Hamas. If Israel kills children, that is provoking Hamas (although when this did happen I'm not sure if Hamas did respond or not). That Hamas is not without justification for such replies is undeniable.

I would like to take this opportunity to remind you that Israe's "responses" which "target" "terrorists" routinely kill innocent bystandards (this is not to mention the fact that the "terrorists" are fighting oppression, but we'll ignore that for now).

They are upholding a ceasefire if they do not attack, and if provoked, a response cannot be described as breaking it. At all. Barring misunderstanding, you asserted that since Hamas was not trying to stop other factions from attacking Israel they were not properly observing the ceasefire, which is obviously false. They can use violence in retaliation and still observe the general ceasefire (which was informal, by the way). Retaliation does not negate or render empty the ceasefire which was being clearly observed by Hamas.

IIRC, Hamas eventually halted attacks during that time (I'm somewhat sure they admitted responsibility as well). Immediately after the announcement, Israeli warplanes struck again.
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  -AP: Israeli planes attack bridge in northern Gaza iconoclastic cat  Jun-27-06 04:10 PM   #0 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-27-06 04:12 PM   #1 
  - IDF begins Gaza incursion  Scurrilous   Jun-27-06 04:15 PM   #2 
  - Damn fools.  flamin lib   Jun-27-06 04:16 PM   #3 
  - Cease fire means no shooting  Scorpio2000   Jun-27-06 04:24 PM   #4 
  - Hamas  manic expression   Jun-29-06 12:45 AM   #27 
     - No, there were also  eyl   Jun-29-06 03:54 AM   #31 
        - Please specify  manic expression   Jun-29-06 07:00 PM   #34 
           - Here's a few  eyl   Jun-30-06 08:39 AM   #36 
              - OK  manic expression   Jun-30-06 09:29 AM   #37 
                 - Except that  eyl   Jun-30-06 12:47 PM   #40 
                    - However,  manic expression   Jun-30-06 01:00 PM   #42 
                       - I'm not saying  eyl   Jul-01-06 12:57 PM   #43 
                          - And  manic expression   Jul-01-06 01:20 PM   #44 
                             - So if Islamic Jihad  eyl   Jul-02-06 03:18 AM   #45 
                                - If Israel attacks  manic expression   Jul-02-06 08:16 PM   #46 
                                   - Well, let's look again  eyl   Jul-03-06 05:37 AM   #47 
  - Interesting...  PCIntern   Jun-27-06 04:31 PM   #5 
  - Try this  manic expression   Jun-29-06 12:55 AM   #28 
     - Tell Sasson Nuriel's family  eyl   Jun-29-06 03:55 AM   #32 
        - Interesting point  manic expression   Jun-29-06 06:59 PM   #33 
           - that's rather disingenuous  eyl   Jun-30-06 08:28 AM   #35 
              - Not really  manic expression   Jun-30-06 09:32 AM   #38 
                 - First of all,  eyl   Jun-30-06 12:43 PM   #39 
                    - It is very unreasonable  manic expression   Jun-30-06 12:57 PM   #41 
  - I unequivocally  cali   Jun-27-06 04:33 PM   #6 
     - I'm just curious...really  PCIntern   Jun-27-06 04:40 PM   #7 
        - who are these people?  cali   Jun-27-06 05:15 PM   #10 
        - serious?  pelsar   Jun-27-06 05:59 PM   #14 
        - Israel is obliterating an entire people  manic expression   Jun-29-06 12:39 AM   #25 
  - collective punishment -- as predicted  DELUSIONAL   Jun-27-06 05:00 PM   #8 
  - Attacking the collective bridge  Scorpio2000   Jun-27-06 05:03 PM   #9 
  - It's called  manic expression   Jun-29-06 12:40 AM   #26 
  - such bullshit...  Behind the Aegis   Jun-27-06 05:20 PM   #11 
     - No  manic expression   Jun-29-06 12:57 AM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-27-06 05:45 PM   #12 
  - So you know...  Behind the Aegis   Jun-27-06 05:54 PM   #13 
  - More Innocent Palestinians Are Still Killed  wellst0nev0ter   Jun-27-06 08:55 PM   #16 
     - ..  Scorpio2000   Jun-27-06 08:59 PM   #17 
        - ANY civilian death is a war crime...  AnOhioan   Jun-27-06 09:30 PM   #18 
        - Restraint From Massacres Is A Dubious Standard  wellst0nev0ter   Jun-28-06 05:11 PM   #22 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-28-06 05:36 PM   #23 
  - Reminds me of brothers fighting -- to the death  DELUSIONAL   Jun-27-06 06:24 PM   #15 
  - Troops take control of airport, open areas east of Rafah  Englander   Jun-28-06 02:20 AM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-28-06 05:06 AM   #20 
  - Abbas calls IDF operation in Gaza a crime against humanity  Englander   Jun-28-06 05:21 AM   #21 
  - And he's right.  cali   Jun-28-06 06:00 PM   #24 
  - Independent;  Englander   Jun-29-06 01:50 AM   #30 

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