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Sun Apr-02-06 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #23 |
| 40. Money...Prestige...Inside Info? n/t |
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Edited on Sun Apr-02-06 12:26 PM by MrPrax
I love the way rightwing people can get so much play on the Israel file and really get upset when they are asked to explain things like the ADL's less than stellar record on 'facts' or extremist racist parties receiving nearly as many seats as Likud or are in complete 'dispora denial', but will be DAMN sure to send an 'angry form' email over to CP over Cockburn's Weisel trashing.
I look at the threads here in I/P about, say, Rachel Corrie and you get entire raps that would be 'kicked' anywhere else but Free Republic.
You find an well-written and thoughtful article like the 'Israel Lobby' that should be of concern to to anyone, including jewish people, BUT NO...even the most basic 'on the record' parts of the relationship between US-Israeli lobby is denied. But at the same time, they will promote quite openly such things as 1.2 billion Muslims being in some plot to get them.
But YEAH they're 'progressive' even as they call for the Bush administration to attack Iran.
Too much...hey what's ADL's position on the anti-immigrant progrom legislation perkolating through the US Congress at the moment--you think ADL would be way out in front on that one...? LOL
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| -Mearsheimer and Walt's Anti-Israel Screed: A Relentless Assault in Scholar |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 12:30 AM |
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Wiki on ADL |
laststeamtrain |
Apr-01-06 01:41 AM |
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And if someone is breaking into your house, do you call 911... |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 02:07 AM |
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This is what I was thinking of... |
laststeamtrain |
Apr-01-06 02:49 AM |
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The ADL broke the law. |
Tom Joad |
Apr-01-06 11:14 PM |
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To find and report on enemies of human rights. |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 07:05 AM |
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Your actions do not |
Tom Joad |
Apr-02-06 11:49 AM |
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I am identified with and a member of the ADL - PROUDLY SO |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 12:03 PM |
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The ADL did work for civil rights. It also broke the law. |
Tom Joad |
Apr-02-06 12:27 PM |
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Who calmed down the school integration crisis in my home town? |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 01:04 PM |
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Yr entitled to yr opinion. |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 07:04 AM |
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The ADL etc are relying on people not having read it... |
Karmakaze |
Apr-01-06 01:53 AM |
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You make it sound like that M&W paper is great scholarship or |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 02:01 AM |
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Gergen's a conservative. |
Englander |
Apr-01-06 02:03 AM |
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Another conservative connection... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:07 AM |
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wrong Violet, the Kalb line was in Times Online UK |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 02:12 AM |
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And what was the source for the Times quotes? |
Englander |
Apr-01-06 02:24 AM |
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Barb, he emailed the NY Sun. This is what's known as a fact... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:28 AM |
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uhhuh, so you were in the voting booth with him too? |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 02:09 AM |
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No, because it says so in the link from the other thread. |
Englander |
Apr-01-06 02:10 AM |
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Was that the link that forgot to mention Gergen worked for Clinton |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 02:13 AM |
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No, it mentioned Clinton, in the same sentence. |
Englander |
Apr-01-06 02:16 AM |
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So did you ever see him run for political office on the GOP ticket? |
barb162 |
Apr-02-06 03:47 PM |
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Absurd strawman. |
Englander |
Apr-03-06 08:14 AM |
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'What's A Conservative?' |
Englander |
Apr-03-06 08:34 AM |
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I just posted the link... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:29 AM |
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Looks like it's needed, really. n/t |
Englander |
Apr-01-06 02:34 AM |
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And conservatives just ran to work for Clinton, huh? FUNNY! |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 02:42 AM |
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Not sure if he ran or was asked... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:49 AM |
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You seem to be having a hard time |
barb162 |
Apr-02-06 03:44 PM |
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I'm not having a hard time at all... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-03-06 06:22 AM |
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Not this lame attempt to claim he's not a conservative again?? |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:24 AM |
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Violet, do you stand next to him when he votes? |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 02:37 AM |
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I don't stand next to Bush either... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:41 AM |
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Well what makes you think you know how this person votes? |
barb162 |
Apr-02-06 03:38 PM |
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Coz his bio on that website said he was a conservative... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-03-06 06:24 AM |
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Money...Prestige...Inside Info? n/t |
MrPrax |
Apr-02-06 12:15 PM |
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ADL's position on the anti-immigrant progrom legislation |
Behind the Aegis |
Apr-02-06 01:44 PM |
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Oh that clarifies things... |
MrPrax |
Apr-02-06 02:05 PM |
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Better then being an Ernest Bevin racist. |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 09:39 AM |
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LOL - look who's talking... |
Karmakaze |
Apr-01-06 11:09 PM |
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The Israeli lobby was NOT the prime mover for war in Iraq |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 01:42 PM |
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Maybe a lot of people from various sides are relying on others |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 02:14 AM |
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Oh, the irony. n/t |
Englander |
Apr-01-06 02:25 AM |
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Oh the facts |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 02:32 AM |
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Have you actually read the report, barb? |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:35 AM |
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Actually, Violet, you are wrong. I haven't at all posted |
barb162 |
Apr-02-06 03:37 PM |
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I didn't catch yr answer in there... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-03-06 06:26 AM |
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Which facts are those? |
Englander |
Apr-02-06 06:57 AM |
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From one who did read it... |
Behind the Aegis |
Apr-01-06 02:18 AM |
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I have to disagree with Chomsky on this one... |
Karmakaze |
Apr-01-06 11:54 PM |
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Apr-02-06 06:58 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-02-06 07:05 PM |
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Good point... |
MrPrax |
Apr-02-06 12:54 PM |
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I do agree with a LOT of what he said though.... |
Karmakaze |
Apr-02-06 07:22 PM |
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Simplistic |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 07:40 PM |
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Your link didn't work... |
MrPrax |
Apr-02-06 12:39 PM |
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A "sloppy diatribe" for sloppy "academic" work. |
Behind the Aegis |
Apr-01-06 02:25 AM |
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Wrong. |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 09:40 AM |
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Coastie posted a good critique |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-02-06 10:27 AM |
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Here's the link |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 04:46 PM |
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I must say seeing this fuckwit whine about "scholarship" is most amusing. |
bemildred |
Apr-02-06 03:57 PM |
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As long as we are talking about "Ethnic" Lobbies |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 04:18 PM |
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We aren't. You, of course, may talk about them all you like. |
bemildred |
Apr-02-06 05:51 PM |
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Surprise Surprise |
Coastie for Truth |
Apr-02-06 06:08 PM |
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I'm not interested in defending Mearsheimer and Walt, or their study. |
bemildred |
Apr-02-06 10:13 PM |
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That is the heart of the matter |
Lithos |
Apr-02-06 10:54 PM |
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A combination of blather and tortured examination of the obvious. |
bemildred |
Apr-02-06 11:26 PM |
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If you find out, please post. |
Lithos |
Apr-03-06 12:30 AM |
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Well, I assume this is not really academic, in the first place. |
bemildred |
Apr-03-06 08:04 AM |
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