Violet_Crumble
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Thu Mar-30-06 01:10 AM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 95. This is getting ridiculous... |
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Advisers aren't impartial. Anyone who thinks otherwise is severely deluding themselves....
Violet...
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| -An Unfair Attack |
barb162 |
Mar-28-06 01:54 PM |
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Funny how he doesn't address AIPAC's use of anti-Semitic claims |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-28-06 01:57 PM |
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Vash, are you still worth six billion double dollars? |
tatertop |
Mar-28-06 02:26 PM |
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Maybe the U.S. should knock me off |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-28-06 02:29 PM |
#8 |
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As you well know, NO ONE can defeat the Trigun! |
tatertop |
Mar-28-06 02:58 PM |
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I was involved in both July AND Augusta. |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-28-06 03:00 PM |
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That is great, I failed to fact check and you thumped me! |
tatertop |
Mar-28-06 03:04 PM |
#23 |
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Perhaps he was limited by article length for this publication? |
barb162 |
Mar-28-06 02:40 PM |
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Oh please. |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-28-06 02:42 PM |
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Oh please,Gergen can figure out how he wants to frame his stuff |
barb162 |
Mar-28-06 02:50 PM |
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Well, it's apparent which way you slant. (nt) |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-28-06 02:53 PM |
#17 |
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Yep, pro-Clinton, you got a problem with that? with Democrats? |
barb162 |
Mar-28-06 05:21 PM |
#25 |
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This article has almost nothing to do with Clinton or Democrats. |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-29-06 08:07 AM |
#63 |
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I think you better try again; yours wasn't even a try |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 10:15 PM |
#75 |
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Uh, barb. The article has almost nothing to do with Clinton or the Dems... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 12:53 AM |
#88 |
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Who stated it had t anything o do with Clinton or the Democrats? |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 02:19 AM |
#103 |
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You were trying to make a connection in yr earlier post... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 02:51 AM |
#108 |
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No I wasn't and you don't know what I was doing either |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:03 AM |
#115 |
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You sure as hell brought them up... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:29 AM |
#122 |
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Your post here has failed abysmally |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:35 AM |
#127 |
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Posts don't fail anything... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:36 AM |
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Yours sure did |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:39 AM |
#134 |
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I didn't realise Skinner had started grading posts... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:46 AM |
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Is he grading posts? When did you make that determination? |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:46 AM |
#139 |
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I thought he's the guy who runs this place... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:50 AM |
#141 |
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He is the the person who runs DU; I sure don't remember any |
barb162 |
Mar-31-06 11:38 PM |
#154 |
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Then why are you grading posts? |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:17 AM |
#156 |
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You mean these in the Crisis Papers, prublished by DU Admin? |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-28-06 03:01 PM |
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No, I meant by Gergen. |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-28-06 03:03 PM |
#22 |
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one of those feel good things huh? |
idontwantaname |
Mar-28-06 01:58 PM |
#2 |
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Other Outposts of Freedom???? |
atreides1 |
Mar-28-06 02:07 PM |
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ROFLMA |
acmejack |
Mar-28-06 02:32 PM |
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Exactly, I think Chomsky says it well, check out his perspective on |
Tom Joad |
Mar-28-06 04:12 PM |
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you'v got to be kidding...... |
pelsar |
Mar-28-06 10:32 PM |
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That was an unfair attack, and a complete opposite of what I said |
Tom Joad |
Mar-29-06 12:06 AM |
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Yes, it is. |
Englander |
Mar-29-06 02:14 AM |
#49 |
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I could have sworn the Roadmap, Camp David, etc, ad infinitum, |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 02:31 AM |
#54 |
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Barb, it would be better if you went to my other post and |
Tom Joad |
Mar-29-06 09:23 AM |
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That's a gross misrepresentation of the stated views. n/t |
Englander |
Mar-29-06 02:04 AM |
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We can only hope that Olmert starts a program to combat illiteracy. eom |
Tom Joad |
Mar-29-06 09:24 AM |
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tsk, tsk, it has one of the highest literacy rates in the world |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 10:19 PM |
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Yeah, but still there's some Israelis who are illiterate :) |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 01:02 AM |
#92 |
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that's really important news |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 02:23 AM |
#104 |
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Pity you don't find literacy an important issue... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 02:53 AM |
#109 |
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Now why would you make such a misinterpretation of a post? |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:02 AM |
#114 |
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Oh probably coz of the sarcasm tag in yr post... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:30 AM |
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can't take humor? |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:36 AM |
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I don't find much funny in making sarcastic comments about illiteracy... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:37 AM |
#132 |
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As long as you're writing about literacy, you might need |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:41 AM |
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Barb, this is a message board, not an academic paper... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:48 AM |
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Thanks for letting us all know this is a message board n/t |
barb162 |
Mar-31-06 11:36 PM |
#153 |
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It appears at least one person needed to be reminded... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:14 AM |
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then I hope you keep reminding yourself this is a message board |
barb162 |
Apr-01-06 02:19 AM |
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I don't need to... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:20 AM |
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Mar-30-06 10:56 AM |
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Oh yeah and Chomsky really worked in the White House |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 02:21 AM |
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Who gives a toss if someone worked in the White House... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 12:57 AM |
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I really doubt that Clinton would have hired him as Counsel |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 02:28 AM |
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Clinton hired his fair share of idiots... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 02:55 AM |
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Who is talking about "staff"... I am talking about Gergen |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:13 AM |
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Oh, so he's different than anyone else who worked for Clinton? |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:34 AM |
#126 |
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Perhaps you should take a look at Gergen's bio |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:39 AM |
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His bio wasn't impressive... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:45 AM |
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His resume is quite impressive; working for 4 presidents |
barb162 |
Mar-31-06 11:29 PM |
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Working for a few presidents isn't all that impressive... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:19 AM |
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Since Gergen specifically mentions 3 locations, why muck the |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 02:06 AM |
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maybe it's something you lost |
Phx_Dem |
Mar-30-06 08:24 AM |
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Is there something wrong with a hopeful closing? |
barb162 |
Mar-28-06 02:38 PM |
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And has Washington sometimes tilted too much toward |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 02:28 AM |
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Too much towards Palestinians? ARE YOU INSANE?!? |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-29-06 08:09 AM |
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I call hundreds of millions a year in aid more than a "damn" thing |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 10:22 PM |
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But you called 50 million a month in revenue 'measly' in another thread... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:11 AM |
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I doubt that; But what thread might you be referencing? |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:26 AM |
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"$1.3 billion goes such a longer way than a measly 50 million" |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:28 AM |
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Context is everything. Don't you agree that 1.3 bill |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:46 AM |
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That's why I posted the link to the post... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:52 AM |
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Hundreds of millions?! |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-30-06 08:16 AM |
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You are getting something |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-30-06 08:22 AM |
#145 |
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No, Washington has never tilted too much towards the Palestinians.. |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 01:00 AM |
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Yes, Washington has tilted too much toward the Palestinians |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 02:44 AM |
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When did that happen and what did it involve? |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 02:57 AM |
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Over the decades the US has given hundred of millions |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:10 AM |
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Did you bother reading anything that's been said to you?? |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-31-06 12:09 AM |
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The study was right. Gergen is wrong. It's only right wing Israel bots |
norml |
Mar-28-06 02:01 PM |
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Gergen knows what he's talking about. He was there. |
barb162 |
Mar-28-06 02:22 PM |
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But if someone is there that you disagree with... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 01:07 AM |
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That's pretty contorted Violet. Gergen can figure out what |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 02:46 AM |
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It was as straight forward as it gets... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:27 AM |
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It's a powerful argument to have been there and seen things |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:34 AM |
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But Carter saw things when he was President... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:35 AM |
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Gergen didn't work for Carter and is not discussing that presidency |
barb162 |
Mar-31-06 11:32 PM |
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Yes, but Carter saw things... |
Violet_Crumble |
Apr-01-06 02:22 AM |
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that and an arab american professor.....who disagrees with the report |
pelsar |
Mar-28-06 02:47 PM |
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That's a ridiculous misrepresentation of what he's saying. |
norml |
Mar-28-06 11:25 PM |
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I read it the way Pelsar did, too |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-28-06 11:41 PM |
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Again, please to point out where he disputes anything in the study |
norml |
Mar-29-06 12:02 AM |
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Gergen is basically saying the Walt etal study is a POS |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 01:22 AM |
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First, I was asking for relevant quotes from Massad, not Gergen. |
norml |
Mar-29-06 01:55 AM |
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Do you believe yourself? Come on! |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 02:12 AM |
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You probably never heard him on The News Hour. |
norml |
Mar-29-06 02:22 AM |
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You probably never heard him on The News Hour |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 02:59 AM |
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He was on there years ago, doing a point/counterpoint thing with Shields |
norml |
Mar-29-06 01:06 PM |
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No I really don't remember any specific conversation and wonder |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 10:24 PM |
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Then you never saw it when David Gergen was on The News Hour |
norml |
Mar-30-06 01:13 AM |
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That's a while back and Gergen usually has and had a |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 02:53 AM |
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AIPAC supports PNAC. PNAC supports AIPAC. You can't knock down PNAC |
norml |
Mar-29-06 02:04 AM |
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conspiracy theories abound.... |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 03:04 AM |
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At least Coastie for Truth bothered to write a response showing he knows |
norml |
Mar-29-06 01:23 PM |
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You want to know who the real supporters of PNAC are? |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-29-06 02:52 PM |
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If you want cheap oil, you don't invade and occupy countries with... |
norml |
Mar-29-06 04:30 PM |
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Sorry |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-29-06 04:37 PM |
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And neither do the Fundies (among which being an Israel Bot is required) |
norml |
Mar-29-06 04:57 PM |
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"AIPAC and Israel don't mean beans to ... the API. " YES |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 10:53 PM |
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Your post shows hopeless confusion for the most part: |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 10:38 PM |
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Dammit! Disrupting the oil is exactly what they want. They're enjoying |
norml |
Mar-30-06 01:00 AM |
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Your post would make a bit of sense if Iraq were pumping out |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 02:58 AM |
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Actually Iraq was pumping out huge quantities of oil throughout the 90s |
norml |
Mar-30-06 03:36 AM |
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supply and demand |
Phx_Dem |
Mar-30-06 08:36 AM |
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excellent as always , Coastie |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 10:29 PM |
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Didn't you just tell someone else that talking about AIPAC was off topic? |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 01:12 AM |
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PNAC doesn't even have anything to do with the article I posted |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 10:25 PM |
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Neither did Bill Clinton or the Dems... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 01:04 AM |
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Coastie is right on this |
Midnight Rambler |
Mar-30-06 12:20 PM |
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PNAC is all about assertion of hegemony over OIL |
Coastie for Truth |
Mar-29-06 10:32 AM |
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AIPAC supports PNAC. PNAC supports AIPAC. You can't knock down PNAC |
norml |
Mar-29-06 02:04 AM |
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Do you really think BP cares in even the most minor way |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 11:00 PM |
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If they care at all about Israel, it's to care that there be as much |
norml |
Mar-30-06 01:38 AM |
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start with this: |
pelsar |
Mar-29-06 11:51 PM |
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That's nonsense. Massad doesn't mention the Harvard report. n/t |
Englander |
Mar-29-06 02:02 AM |
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And are you implying Clinton had a right winger as his counselor? |
barb162 |
Mar-28-06 02:49 PM |
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Are you saying only right-wingers blindly follow Israel's policy? |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-28-06 02:54 PM |
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No, are you? |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 01:23 AM |
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No, you did. |
Vash the Stampede |
Mar-29-06 08:07 AM |
#62 |
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Your post is incorrect; This is what I wrote below: |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 11:07 PM |
#84 |
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Yes, Clinton had (David Gergen) a right wing republican as his counselor. |
norml |
Mar-28-06 10:48 PM |
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That's Incorrect |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 01:29 AM |
#37 |
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He's a conservative. |
Englander |
Mar-29-06 02:00 AM |
#42 |
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Thanks for the confirmation of reality. |
norml |
Mar-29-06 02:16 AM |
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That would be a laugh except for the fact that I saw some people |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 02:49 AM |
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Reality's a stranger in I/p, really. |
Englander |
Mar-29-06 03:25 AM |
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Intersting that little factoid you snipped didn't mention CLINTON |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 02:39 AM |
#55 |
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So, you agree? Gergen's a conservative? Just say it, barb. n/t |
Englander |
Mar-29-06 03:26 AM |
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No. I see him as apolitical and totally involved in his role as |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 11:26 PM |
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Bullshit, He's a conservative... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 01:16 AM |
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Bullshit, Violet. Do you go in the voting booth with him |
barb162 |
Mar-30-06 03:32 AM |
#124 |
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No, I read the link that Englander posted... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 03:56 AM |
#143 |
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Which is it? |
Englander |
Mar-30-06 02:00 AM |
#102 |
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It does, if you read all the snippet, at the end of the sentence. n/t |
Englander |
Mar-30-06 01:55 AM |
#101 |
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Just for kicks, so what? |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 11:12 PM |
#85 |
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Laughable ... Exhibit A David Gergen ... Exhibit B Dick Morris ... |
not systems |
Mar-29-06 09:14 AM |
#65 |
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This is getting ridiculous... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 01:10 AM |
#95 |
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Gergen is pitiful |
tatertop |
Mar-28-06 02:25 PM |
#6 |
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"these charges wildly at variance with what I have ... witnessed " |
barb162 |
Mar-28-06 02:37 PM |
#10 |
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David Gergen? The Republican puke? |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-28-06 10:48 PM |
#27 |
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He's a strategist, an educator, etc., and pretty much above |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 01:47 AM |
#39 |
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Actually ,Walt etal and their report are pitiful |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 03:01 AM |
#58 |
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A suggestion... |
Violet_Crumble |
Mar-30-06 01:18 AM |
#99 |
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This is just so much "How dare you call the Jews unpatriotic" blather |
norml |
Mar-29-06 12:15 AM |
#33 |
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It's impossible to do a point by point mistake list |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 01:37 AM |
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Mar-29-06 01:02 AM |
#34 |
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The Gallup Poll article references Israel , not Zionism |
barb162 |
Mar-29-06 01:55 AM |
#41 |
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