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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:00 AM
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90. No, Washington has never tilted too much towards the Palestinians..
The US has consistantly shown a huge level of favour towards Israel and trying to claim that the US has given some financial aid to the Palestinians shows an ignorance of the relations between the US, Israel and the Palestinians...

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  -An Unfair Attack barb162  Mar-28-06 01:54 PM   #0 
  - Funny how he doesn't address AIPAC's use of anti-Semitic claims  Vash the Stampede   Mar-28-06 01:57 PM   #1 
  - Vash, are you still worth six billion double dollars?  tatertop   Mar-28-06 02:26 PM   #7 
  - Maybe the U.S. should knock me off  Vash the Stampede   Mar-28-06 02:29 PM   #8 
     - As you well know, NO ONE can defeat the Trigun!  tatertop   Mar-28-06 02:58 PM   #19 
        - I was involved in both July AND Augusta.  Vash the Stampede   Mar-28-06 03:00 PM   #20 
           - That is great, I failed to fact check and you thumped me!  tatertop   Mar-28-06 03:04 PM   #23 
  - Perhaps he was limited by article length for this publication?  barb162   Mar-28-06 02:40 PM   #12 
  - Oh please.  Vash the Stampede   Mar-28-06 02:42 PM   #13 
     - Oh please,Gergen can figure out how he wants to frame his stuff  barb162   Mar-28-06 02:50 PM   #16 
        - Well, it's apparent which way you slant. (nt)  Vash the Stampede   Mar-28-06 02:53 PM   #17 
           - Yep, pro-Clinton, you got a problem with that? with Democrats?  barb162   Mar-28-06 05:21 PM   #25 
              - This article has almost nothing to do with Clinton or Democrats.  Vash the Stampede   Mar-29-06 08:07 AM   #63 
                 - I think you better try again; yours wasn't even a try  barb162   Mar-29-06 10:15 PM   #75 
                    - Uh, barb. The article has almost nothing to do with Clinton or the Dems...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 12:53 AM   #88 
                       - Who stated it had t anything o do with Clinton or the Democrats?  barb162   Mar-30-06 02:19 AM   #103 
                          - You were trying to make a connection in yr earlier post...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 02:51 AM   #108 
                             - No I wasn't and you don't know what I was doing either  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:03 AM   #115 
                                - You sure as hell brought them up...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:29 AM   #122 
                                   - Your post here has failed abysmally  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:35 AM   #127 
                                      - Posts don't fail anything...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:36 AM   #131 
                                         - Yours sure did  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:39 AM   #134 
                                            - I didn't realise Skinner had started grading posts...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:46 AM   #137 
                                               - Is he grading posts? When did you make that determination?  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:46 AM   #139 
                                                  - I thought he's the guy who runs this place...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:50 AM   #141 
                                                  - He is the the person who runs DU; I sure don't remember any  barb162   Mar-31-06 11:38 PM   #154 
                                                  - Then why are you grading posts?  Violet_Crumble   Apr-01-06 02:17 AM   #156 
  - You mean these in the Crisis Papers, prublished by DU Admin?  Coastie for Truth   Mar-28-06 03:01 PM   #21 
     - No, I meant by Gergen.  Vash the Stampede   Mar-28-06 03:03 PM   #22 
  - one of those feel good things huh?  idontwantaname   Mar-28-06 01:58 PM   #2 
  - Other Outposts of Freedom????  atreides1   Mar-28-06 02:07 PM   #4 
  - ROFLMA  acmejack   Mar-28-06 02:32 PM   #9 
  - Exactly, I think Chomsky says it well, check out his perspective on  Tom Joad   Mar-28-06 04:12 PM   #24 
  - you'v got to be kidding......  pelsar   Mar-28-06 10:32 PM   #26 
  - That was an unfair attack, and a complete opposite of what I said  Tom Joad   Mar-29-06 12:06 AM   #32 
  - Yes, it is.  Englander   Mar-29-06 02:14 AM   #49 
  - I could have sworn the Roadmap, Camp David, etc, ad infinitum,  barb162   Mar-29-06 02:31 AM   #54 
     - Barb, it would be better if you went to my other post and  Tom Joad   Mar-29-06 09:23 AM   #66 
  - That's a gross misrepresentation of the stated views. n/t  Englander   Mar-29-06 02:04 AM   #44 
     - We can only hope that Olmert starts a program to combat illiteracy. eom  Tom Joad   Mar-29-06 09:24 AM   #67 
        - tsk, tsk, it has one of the highest literacy rates in the world  barb162   Mar-29-06 10:19 PM   #76 
           - Yeah, but still there's some Israelis who are illiterate :)  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 01:02 AM   #92 
           - that's really important news  barb162   Mar-30-06 02:23 AM   #104 
              - Pity you don't find literacy an important issue...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 02:53 AM   #109 
                 - Now why would you make such a misinterpretation of a post?  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:02 AM   #114 
                    - Oh probably coz of the sarcasm tag in yr post...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:30 AM   #123 
                       - can't take humor?  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:36 AM   #130 
                          - I don't find much funny in making sarcastic comments about illiteracy...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:37 AM   #132 
                             - As long as you're writing about literacy, you might need  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:41 AM   #135 
                                - Barb, this is a message board, not an academic paper...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:48 AM   #140 
                                   - Thanks for letting us all know this is a message board n/t  barb162   Mar-31-06 11:36 PM   #153 
                                      - It appears at least one person needed to be reminded...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-01-06 02:14 AM   #155 
                                         - then I hope you keep reminding yourself this is a message board  barb162   Apr-01-06 02:19 AM   #157 
                                         - I don't need to...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-01-06 02:20 AM   #159 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-30-06 10:56 AM   #148 
  - Oh yeah and Chomsky really worked in the White House  barb162   Mar-29-06 02:21 AM   #51 
     - Who gives a toss if someone worked in the White House...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 12:57 AM   #89 
        - I really doubt that Clinton would have hired him as Counsel  barb162   Mar-30-06 02:28 AM   #105 
           - Clinton hired his fair share of idiots...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 02:55 AM   #111 
              - Who is talking about "staff"... I am talking about Gergen  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:13 AM   #118 
                 - Oh, so he's different than anyone else who worked for Clinton?  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:34 AM   #126 
                    - Perhaps you should take a look at Gergen's bio  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:39 AM   #133 
                       - His bio wasn't impressive...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:45 AM   #136 
                          - His resume is quite impressive; working for 4 presidents  barb162   Mar-31-06 11:29 PM   #151 
                             - Working for a few presidents isn't all that impressive...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-01-06 02:19 AM   #158 
  - Since Gergen specifically mentions 3 locations, why muck the  barb162   Mar-29-06 02:06 AM   #47 
  - maybe it's something you lost  Phx_Dem   Mar-30-06 08:24 AM   #146 
  - Is there something wrong with a hopeful closing?  barb162   Mar-28-06 02:38 PM   #11 
  - And has Washington sometimes tilted too much toward  barb162   Mar-29-06 02:28 AM   #53 
     - Too much towards Palestinians? ARE YOU INSANE?!?  Vash the Stampede   Mar-29-06 08:09 AM   #64 
     - I call hundreds of millions a year in aid more than a "damn" thing  barb162   Mar-29-06 10:22 PM   #77 
        - But you called 50 million a month in revenue 'measly' in another thread...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:11 AM   #117 
        - I doubt that; But what thread might you be referencing?  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:26 AM   #119 
           - "$1.3 billion goes such a longer way than a measly 50 million"  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:28 AM   #121 
              - Context is everything. Don't you agree that 1.3 bill  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:46 AM   #138 
                 - That's why I posted the link to the post...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:52 AM   #142 
        - Hundreds of millions?!  Vash the Stampede   Mar-30-06 08:16 AM   #144 
           - You are getting something  Coastie for Truth   Mar-30-06 08:22 AM   #145 
     - No, Washington has never tilted too much towards the Palestinians..  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 01:00 AM   #90 
        - Yes, Washington has tilted too much toward the Palestinians  barb162   Mar-30-06 02:44 AM   #106 
           - When did that happen and what did it involve?  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 02:57 AM   #112 
              - Over the decades the US has given hundred of millions  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:10 AM   #116 
                 - Did you bother reading anything that's been said to you??  Violet_Crumble   Mar-31-06 12:09 AM   #150 
  - The study was right. Gergen is wrong. It's only right wing Israel bots  norml   Mar-28-06 02:01 PM   #3 
  - Gergen knows what he's talking about. He was there.  barb162   Mar-28-06 02:22 PM   #5 
  - But if someone is there that you disagree with...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 01:07 AM   #94 
     - That's pretty contorted Violet. Gergen can figure out what  barb162   Mar-30-06 02:46 AM   #107 
        - It was as straight forward as it gets...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:27 AM   #120 
           - It's a powerful argument to have been there and seen things  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:34 AM   #125 
              - But Carter saw things when he was President...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:35 AM   #128 
                 - Gergen didn't work for Carter and is not discussing that presidency  barb162   Mar-31-06 11:32 PM   #152 
                    - Yes, but Carter saw things...  Violet_Crumble   Apr-01-06 02:22 AM   #160 
  - that and an arab american professor.....who disagrees with the report  pelsar   Mar-28-06 02:47 PM   #14 
  - That's a ridiculous misrepresentation of what he's saying.  norml   Mar-28-06 11:25 PM   #29 
  - I read it the way Pelsar did, too  Coastie for Truth   Mar-28-06 11:41 PM   #30 
  - Again, please to point out where he disputes anything in the study  norml   Mar-29-06 12:02 AM   #31 
     - Gergen is basically saying the Walt etal study is a POS  barb162   Mar-29-06 01:22 AM   #35 
        - First, I was asking for relevant quotes from Massad, not Gergen.  norml   Mar-29-06 01:55 AM   #40 
        - Do you believe yourself? Come on!  barb162   Mar-29-06 02:12 AM   #48 
           - You probably never heard him on The News Hour.  norml   Mar-29-06 02:22 AM   #52 
              - You probably never heard him on The News Hour  barb162   Mar-29-06 02:59 AM   #57 
                 - He was on there years ago, doing a point/counterpoint thing with Shields  norml   Mar-29-06 01:06 PM   #69 
                    - No I really don't remember any specific conversation and wonder  barb162   Mar-29-06 10:24 PM   #78 
                       - Then you never saw it when David Gergen was on The News Hour  norml   Mar-30-06 01:13 AM   #97 
                          - That's a while back and Gergen usually has and had a  barb162   Mar-30-06 02:53 AM   #110 
        - AIPAC supports PNAC. PNAC supports AIPAC. You can't knock down PNAC  norml   Mar-29-06 02:04 AM   #45 
        - conspiracy theories abound....  barb162   Mar-29-06 03:04 AM   #59 
        - At least Coastie for Truth bothered to write a response showing he knows  norml   Mar-29-06 01:23 PM   #70 
           - You want to know who the real supporters of PNAC are?  Coastie for Truth   Mar-29-06 02:52 PM   #71 
           - If you want cheap oil, you don't invade and occupy countries with...  norml   Mar-29-06 04:30 PM   #72 
           - Sorry  Coastie for Truth   Mar-29-06 04:37 PM   #73 
           - And neither do the Fundies (among which being an Israel Bot is required)  norml   Mar-29-06 04:57 PM   #74 
           - "AIPAC and Israel don't mean beans to ... the API. " YES  barb162   Mar-29-06 10:53 PM   #82 
           - Your post shows hopeless confusion for the most part:  barb162   Mar-29-06 10:38 PM   #81 
              - Dammit! Disrupting the oil is exactly what they want. They're enjoying  norml   Mar-30-06 01:00 AM   #91 
                 - Your post would make a bit of sense if Iraq were pumping out  barb162   Mar-30-06 02:58 AM   #113 
                 - Actually Iraq was pumping out huge quantities of oil throughout the 90s  norml   Mar-30-06 03:36 AM   #129 
                 - supply and demand  Phx_Dem   Mar-30-06 08:36 AM   #147 
           - excellent as always , Coastie  barb162   Mar-29-06 10:29 PM   #80 
              - Didn't you just tell someone else that talking about AIPAC was off topic?  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 01:12 AM   #96 
           - PNAC doesn't even have anything to do with the article I posted  barb162   Mar-29-06 10:25 PM   #79 
           - Neither did Bill Clinton or the Dems...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 01:04 AM   #93 
           - Coastie is right on this  Midnight Rambler   Mar-30-06 12:20 PM   #149 
        - PNAC is all about assertion of hegemony over OIL  Coastie for Truth   Mar-29-06 10:32 AM   #68 
        - AIPAC supports PNAC. PNAC supports AIPAC. You can't knock down PNAC  norml   Mar-29-06 02:04 AM   #46 
           - Do you really think BP cares in even the most minor way  barb162   Mar-29-06 11:00 PM   #83 
              - If they care at all about Israel, it's to care that there be as much  norml   Mar-30-06 01:38 AM   #100 
  - start with this:  pelsar   Mar-29-06 11:51 PM   #87 
  - That's nonsense. Massad doesn't mention the Harvard report. n/t  Englander   Mar-29-06 02:02 AM   #43 
  - And are you implying Clinton had a right winger as his counselor?  barb162   Mar-28-06 02:49 PM   #15 
     - Are you saying only right-wingers blindly follow Israel's policy?  Vash the Stampede   Mar-28-06 02:54 PM   #18 
     - No, are you?  barb162   Mar-29-06 01:23 AM   #36 
        - No, you did.  Vash the Stampede   Mar-29-06 08:07 AM   #62 
           - Your post is incorrect; This is what I wrote below:  barb162   Mar-29-06 11:07 PM   #84 
     - Yes, Clinton had (David Gergen) a right wing republican as his counselor.  norml   Mar-28-06 10:48 PM   #28 
     - That's Incorrect  barb162   Mar-29-06 01:29 AM   #37 
        - He's a conservative.  Englander   Mar-29-06 02:00 AM   #42 
           - Thanks for the confirmation of reality.  norml   Mar-29-06 02:16 AM   #50 
           - That would be a laugh except for the fact that I saw some people  barb162   Mar-29-06 02:49 AM   #56 
           - Reality's a stranger in I/p, really.  Englander   Mar-29-06 03:25 AM   #60 
           - Intersting that little factoid you snipped didn't mention CLINTON  barb162   Mar-29-06 02:39 AM   #55 
           - So, you agree? Gergen's a conservative? Just say it, barb. n/t  Englander   Mar-29-06 03:26 AM   #61 
           - No. I see him as apolitical and totally involved in his role as  barb162   Mar-29-06 11:26 PM   #86 
              - Bullshit, He's a conservative...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 01:16 AM   #98 
              - Bullshit, Violet. Do you go in the voting booth with him  barb162   Mar-30-06 03:32 AM   #124 
                 - No, I read the link that Englander posted...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 03:56 AM   #143 
              - Which is it?  Englander   Mar-30-06 02:00 AM   #102 
           - It does, if you read all the snippet, at the end of the sentence. n/t  Englander   Mar-30-06 01:55 AM   #101 
           - Just for kicks, so what?  barb162   Mar-29-06 11:12 PM   #85 
     - Laughable ... Exhibit A David Gergen ... Exhibit B Dick Morris ...  not systems   Mar-29-06 09:14 AM   #65 
     - This is getting ridiculous...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 01:10 AM   #95 
  - Gergen is pitiful  tatertop   Mar-28-06 02:25 PM   #6 
  - "these charges wildly at variance with what I have ... witnessed "  barb162   Mar-28-06 02:37 PM   #10 
  - David Gergen? The Republican puke?  IndianaGreen   Mar-28-06 10:48 PM   #27 
  - He's a strategist, an educator, etc., and pretty much above  barb162   Mar-29-06 01:47 AM   #39 
  - Actually ,Walt etal and their report are pitiful  barb162   Mar-29-06 03:01 AM   #58 
     - A suggestion...  Violet_Crumble   Mar-30-06 01:18 AM   #99 
  - This is just so much "How dare you call the Jews unpatriotic" blather  norml   Mar-29-06 12:15 AM   #33 
  - It's impossible to do a point by point mistake list  barb162   Mar-29-06 01:37 AM   #38 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-29-06 01:02 AM   #34 
     - The Gallup Poll article references Israel , not Zionism  barb162   Mar-29-06 01:55 AM   #41 
 

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