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Tue Feb-14-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #74 |
| 82. To put things into perspective, it's not uncommon here |
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Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 11:03 AM by eyl
for graves to turn up during construction. The current brouhaha is about Muslim graves, but last year Jewish graves were found during construction of a road near Haifa - AFAIK, the bones were moved rather than the road being rerouted.
I haven't seen any indication that the SWC knew that the area of the construction site in question was part of the graveyard, seeing as it has been out of use for most of a century and the section in question long diverted to other purposes. That ebing so, once the remains were found, work should have stopped pending a determination by the High Court, which is the usual procedure in cases like this (which, again, are not particularly uncommon, both regarding Muslim and Jewish cemetaries). The second part is being done; it's unclear from news articles whether work was stopped or not. BTW - whoever gave me the heart, thanks  |
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| - Israel plans to build 'museum of tolerance' on Muslim graves | Benfea | Feb-10-06 04:50 PM | #0 |
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Oy...the need for sensitivity... |
Dunvegan | Feb-10-06 04:53 PM | #1 |
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thier whole country is built on Muslim graves |
Feb-10-06 04:53 PM | #2 | |
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Now that you mention it, you're right. n/t |
cantstandbush | Feb-10-06 04:57 PM | #6 |
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and Jewish, and Christian, and Roman, and Cannanite... |
Behind the Aegis | Feb-10-06 05:00 PM | #7 |
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And the "Jordanians" or "Palestinians" or whoever they are |
Coastie for Truth | Feb-10-06 05:03 PM | #8 |
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Despicable. |
Lefty48197 | Feb-10-06 05:06 PM | #11 |
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No - that was in Jerusalem after the 1948 war |
Coastie for Truth | Feb-10-06 05:31 PM | #19 |
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Got any actual proof? |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-10-06 09:37 PM | #26 |
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Please! The Mufti of Jerusalem, who actually worked with |
Colorado Blue | Feb-19-06 11:53 PM | #90 |
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That doesn't justify this. |
Benfea | Feb-10-06 05:21 PM | #14 |
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why not? |
barb162 | Feb-11-06 01:19 AM | #33 |
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That's funny... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-11-06 02:08 AM | #39 |
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Maybe it has more to do with 1000 year old bones than with |
barb162 | Feb-11-06 02:37 AM | #43 |
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I'd be thinking remains that are so old are worth protecting... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-11-06 02:52 AM | #45 |
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It is justified; Palestinians used cemetery land for a hotel |
barb162 | Feb-12-06 03:45 PM | #71 |
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But the cemetary had already been decommisioned BY THE |
Colorado Blue | Feb-19-06 11:54 PM | #91 |
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The plans are to respectfully rebury the bones and erect a |
Colorado Blue | Feb-20-06 12:17 AM | #95 |
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I don't recall seeing all this support for digging up bones a while back.. |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-20-06 03:24 AM | #113 |
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I don't see any outrage by you over a hotel built by the Muslims |
barb162 | Feb-21-06 02:57 PM | #124 |
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Please see post #105. |
Colorado Blue | Feb-20-06 12:21 AM | #96 |
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So this makes building a 'tolerance' museum on a burial site okay? |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-10-06 09:35 PM | #25 |
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per article:"it was common in Jerusalem to build on cemeteries". |
barb162 | Feb-11-06 02:02 AM | #37 |
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I asked you what *you* thought... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-11-06 02:16 AM | #41 |
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answer was sufficient , Violet, I'll quote if I feel like it |
barb162 | Feb-11-06 02:38 AM | #44 |
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I didn't tell you that you couldn't quote... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-11-06 02:54 AM | #46 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed | Feb-11-06 03:00 AM | #47 |
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Thanks for the reminder |
Lefty48197 | Feb-10-06 05:05 PM | #9 |
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'Under the threat of murder'?? |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-10-06 09:31 PM | #24 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed | Feb-11-06 03:39 AM | #48 |
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Notice |
Lithos | Feb-21-06 10:40 PM | #128 |
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Why not listen to Palestinian Christians directly? |
Tom Joad | Feb-11-06 11:55 PM | #54 |
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I've wondered the same thing... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-12-06 03:46 AM | #61 |
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Christians anxious over Hamas victory |
barb162 | Feb-21-06 02:45 PM | #119 |
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Hosam al-Taweel |
Djinn | Feb-21-06 06:27 PM | #125 |
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Israel |
geezer1 | Feb-10-06 05:25 PM | #16 |
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so if I only take over one small room in your house you wont mind? |
Feb-10-06 05:28 PM | #17 | |
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What Other Nations are Illegitimate? |
geezer1 | Feb-10-06 05:33 PM | #20 |
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But what if the mortgage speculator (UK or France) |
Coastie for Truth | Feb-10-06 08:55 PM | #22 |
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Maybe you would be interested in reading about the |
Colorado Blue | Feb-20-06 12:30 AM | #97 |
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That's right , geezer... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-10-06 09:39 PM | #27 |
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In an area that has been lived on for more than 5000 years |
barb162 | Feb-11-06 01:28 AM | #35 |
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Yes, but the concept of a *tolerance* museum being built... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-11-06 02:07 AM | #38 |
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Excuse me? Perhaps you should read "The Source", by |
Colorado Blue | Feb-19-06 11:50 PM | #89 |
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Excuse me?? |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-20-06 03:22 AM | #111 |
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Yeah, that'll help |
Caoimhe | Feb-10-06 04:53 PM | #3 |
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colour me surprised. |
xchrom | Feb-10-06 04:54 PM | #4 |
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Another provocation to make certain that there is no peace in the ME. n/t |
cantstandbush | Feb-10-06 04:56 PM | #5 |
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Would those killed in the holocaust approve? I doubt it. |
Poll_Blind | Feb-10-06 05:06 PM | #10 |
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Name removed | Feb-10-06 05:06 PM | #12 |
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Name removed | Feb-10-06 05:11 PM | #13 |
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cha-ching! |
Feb-10-06 05:24 PM | #15 | |
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It sounds more and more this group doesn't give a crap about tolerance |
Benfea | Feb-10-06 05:29 PM | #18 |
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Tell me about tolerance |
Coastie for Truth | Feb-10-06 09:00 PM | #23 |
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That would mean US oil companies have discriminatory employment policy... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-10-06 09:44 PM | #28 |
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The oil companies are quite well known to be anti-semitic |
barb162 | Feb-11-06 01:21 AM | #34 |
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Somehow I really doubt that... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-11-06 02:01 AM | #36 |
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In response |
Coastie for Truth | Feb-11-06 09:17 PM | #53 |
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Thanks for the links, Coastie... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-12-06 03:40 AM | #59 |
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Coastie? |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-13-06 06:29 AM | #80 |
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Kick for Coastie... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-14-06 03:42 AM | #81 |
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that's like asking a company to put in writing they don't like to hire |
barb162 | Feb-12-06 03:07 AM | #55 |
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So I just have to take yr word for it?? |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-12-06 03:33 AM | #58 |
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No, you don't have to take my word for it |
barb162 | Feb-12-06 03:43 AM | #60 |
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Good. Coz I've got no intention of doing so... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-12-06 03:56 AM | #62 |
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Name removed | Mar-16-06 07:53 PM | #133 |
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So in retribution you want this to go forward? |
Tom Joad | Feb-10-06 10:14 PM | #30 |
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That is not what I said - and I wish you would stop misquoting me |
Coastie for Truth | Feb-10-06 10:16 PM | #31 |
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I'm sorry, yes, you did not say that. |
Tom Joad | Feb-10-06 10:57 PM | #32 |
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And you didn't misquote him... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-11-06 02:11 AM | #40 |
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Apology acepted. |
Coastie for Truth | Feb-11-06 09:46 AM | #51 |
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that's a complete and total lie |
Djinn | Feb-21-06 06:31 PM | #126 |
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Speaking of tolerance there are several posts on this |
Colorado Blue | Feb-20-06 12:04 AM | #92 |
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That's a mighty weird use of the word tolerance... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-21-06 05:40 AM | #118 |
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Maybe you should be complaining to the ghost of the Mufti |
Colorado Blue | Feb-20-06 12:05 AM | #93 |
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Hmmm... |
fujiyama | Feb-10-06 06:28 PM | #21 |
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This is not just any cemetery, but |
Tom Joad | Feb-10-06 10:11 PM | #29 |
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What I find disturbing... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-11-06 02:20 AM | #42 |
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that is exacty what it is.... |
pelsar | Feb-12-06 04:20 PM | #75 |
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It might have been the "main" cemetary centuries ago |
eyl | Feb-11-06 04:59 AM | #49 |
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How does a cemetary stop being a cemetary? |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-11-06 05:47 AM | #50 |
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when it's used as a parking lot |
barb162 | Feb-12-06 03:21 AM | #57 |
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Wrong... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-12-06 03:59 AM | #63 |
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Wrong... |
Behind the Aegis | Feb-12-06 04:17 AM | #65 |
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Palestinians used cemetery for a hotel, so do they deserve a kick |
barb162 | Feb-12-06 03:50 PM | #72 |
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That's not the same cemetary, barb... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-13-06 06:22 AM | #78 |
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it's the same cemetery |
barb162 | Feb-19-06 10:45 PM | #86 |
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So could you post the bit of the article that says it's the same one? |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-20-06 02:34 AM | #104 |
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see post #72 |
Behind the Aegis | Feb-20-06 02:41 AM | #106 |
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And what difference does this make? |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-20-06 02:46 AM | #108 |
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5 years |
Behind the Aegis | Feb-20-06 02:55 AM | #109 |
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Yr going to have to explain the '5 years' thing... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-20-06 03:08 AM | #110 |
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read post #99 |
Behind the Aegis | Feb-20-06 03:24 AM | #112 |
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Oh, that. That bunch has got a vested interest... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-20-06 03:30 AM | #114 |
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Question |
Behind the Aegis | Feb-20-06 03:38 AM | #115 |
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Interesting... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-20-06 03:48 AM | #116 |
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It stops being used; |
eyl | Feb-12-06 08:29 AM | #67 |
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It was confiscated. By military force. That is not "tolerence". eom |
Tom Joad | Feb-11-06 10:13 AM | #52 |
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Name removed | Feb-19-06 11:17 PM | #87 |
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I guess folks would prefer it be used as a parking lot huh. |
Colorado Blue | Feb-20-06 12:44 AM | #100 |
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You got it! n/t |
barb162 | Feb-20-06 01:22 AM | #102 |
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Wouldn't a great museum be a more fitting monument to the |
Colorado Blue | Feb-20-06 01:31 PM | #117 |
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Name removed | Feb-20-06 02:40 AM | #105 |
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How did Jordan acquire it? How did the British acquire it? |
Colorado Blue | Feb-20-06 12:43 AM | #99 |
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Jerusalem |
Lithos | Feb-21-06 10:33 PM | #127 |
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Palestinians have used it for other things, like a hotel |
barb162 | Feb-12-06 03:42 PM | #69 |
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Frank Gehry designed center |
barb162 | Feb-12-06 03:17 AM | #56 |
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So what? |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-12-06 04:00 AM | #64 |
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So I like Gehry, that's what |
barb162 | Feb-12-06 03:43 PM | #70 |
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Yoo-hoo! Barb! ...you missed my reply in post #75! eom |
Wordie | Feb-12-06 03:56 PM | #73 |
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That's not a very convincing argument for building it on a burial site... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-13-06 06:27 AM | #79 |
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Name removed | Feb-19-06 10:11 PM | #84 |
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Saying you like an architect is NOT a convincing reason... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-20-06 02:32 AM | #103 |
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So what do you think of the hotel? |
barb162 | Feb-21-06 02:55 PM | #123 |
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It's far better than parking lots and hotels |
barb162 | Feb-21-06 02:48 PM | #120 |
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do you have any convincing arguments about hotels and roads |
barb162 | Feb-21-06 02:51 PM | #121 |
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got any convincing arguments why Muslims put a hotel on it? |
barb162 | Feb-21-06 02:52 PM | #122 |
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I don't need to argue something like that... |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-22-06 04:09 AM | #129 |
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Scandal |
Behind the Aegis | Feb-12-06 04:32 AM | #66 |
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Same thread form earlier post... |
splat@14 | Feb-12-06 10:13 AM | #68 |
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interesting article about Muslim cemetery reuse |
barb162 | Feb-12-06 03:59 PM | #74 |
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To put things into perspective, it's not uncommon here |
eyl | Feb-14-06 11:01 AM | #82 |
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Little tolerance evident in museum, critics say |
Coastie for Truth | Feb-12-06 05:08 PM | #76 |
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Nothing is new under the sun |
occuserpens | Feb-12-06 11:41 PM | #77 |
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ADL: Freeze work on Museum of Tolerance, site of Muslim graves |
Scurrilous | Feb-19-06 11:25 AM | #83 |
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Mass e-mailing to supporters of Weisenthal Center |
Coastie for Truth | Feb-19-06 10:41 PM | #85 |
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Well that's pretty clear that Muslims dug up bones, put a hotel up |
barb162 | Feb-19-06 11:41 PM | #88 |
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And the verdict is: |
Jim Sagle | Feb-20-06 12:59 AM | #101 |
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Name removed | Feb-20-06 12:15 AM | #94 |
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Holy crap! |
Violet_Crumble | Feb-20-06 02:42 AM | #107 |
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More actual facts, in case anybody's interested: |
Colorado Blue | Feb-20-06 12:38 AM | #98 |
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Link TV's Mosaic has film of the cemetery today. |
not systems | Feb-22-06 10:02 AM | #130 |
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Man, Israel Palestine debates are AWESOME! |
genie_weenie | Feb-22-06 04:19 PM | #131 |
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For the hell of it, |
Spinoza | Feb-23-06 05:15 PM | #132 |
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