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Sun Jan-08-06 05:13 AM
Response to Reply #6 |
| 11. Not quite so cut and dried |
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He wasn't going back to pre-occupation borders but he was indeed ready to give back most of the W. Bank using a UN chartered population/land area division scheme.Of course he was trying to get as many choice sparsely occupied areas of the W. Bank settled with enough Israelis to meet the UN guidelines for a majority but the end result would be 85-95% of the W. Bank returning to Palestinian hands over the next 2 years.That's why he was encouraging settlers to move into certain areas and claim them because he was on a timeline to show everyone how "committed to peace" he was by handing over Gaza and the W. Bank.
Of course this might have been a ruse to let the Palestinians humiliate themselves by giving them "too much too fast" without any funding or government infrastructure to manage these areas so the world could watch them implode(like what's going on in Gaza right now)but the end result would be an end to direct occupation and a fighting chance for a free,democratic Palestinian state.
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| -Jewish Settlers Shed No Tears for Father of Their Movement |
Scurrilous |
Jan-08-06 04:13 AM |
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Sharon Was The Only Hope For Peace :( |
sopmod |
Jan-08-06 04:22 AM |
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RE: "The Palestinians are too stupid to realize..." |
nine23 |
Jan-08-06 04:43 AM |
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There's celebrating in the street that Sharon is on his death bed(ie they |
sopmod |
Jan-08-06 04:57 AM |
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The article is about Jewish settlers who cant wait for him to die. |
LiberalVoice |
Jan-08-06 05:04 AM |
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There's plenty of stupid to go around!! |
sopmod |
Jan-08-06 05:19 AM |
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Don't forget.... |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-08-06 05:24 AM |
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It was exactly the same when Arafat was dying... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-09-06 06:29 AM |
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Wrong |
eyl |
Jan-09-06 07:00 AM |
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'Israel's death festival' |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-09-06 07:03 AM |
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It's only the Palestinians |
julianer |
Jan-09-06 10:18 AM |
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Jan-09-06 07:17 PM |
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Jan-10-06 02:27 AM |
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HMMMMMMM. |
Colorado Blue |
Jan-10-06 01:48 PM |
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Luckily no one here in the good old US of A would ever engage in such |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-10-06 07:03 PM |
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Not Just Polish, and not just RWers. |
Coastie for Truth |
Jan-10-06 08:06 PM |
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from that link... |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-10-06 01:49 PM |
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You can get away with slandering the Palestinian people as a whole... |
Poll_Blind |
Jan-10-06 04:15 PM |
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Only in the basement. n/t |
Englander |
Jan-11-06 12:52 AM |
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probably the biggest obstacle to peace |
Wetzelbill |
Jan-08-06 05:02 AM |
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So, he should have 'kept' Gaza? |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-08-06 05:03 AM |
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not necessarily no |
Wetzelbill |
Jan-08-06 05:06 AM |
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And yet... |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-08-06 05:09 AM |
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there is no hunky-dory in this situation |
Wetzelbill |
Jan-08-06 05:15 AM |
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I only see opinion on your part. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-08-06 05:20 AM |
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Jan-08-06 05:36 AM |
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All I have is my opinion. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-08-06 05:40 AM |
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Must the West Bank be Judenrein? I think that's a good |
Colorado Blue |
Jan-08-06 12:51 PM |
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Jan-08-06 02:04 PM |
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I think that there has been a great deal of bitterness over the |
Colorado Blue |
Jan-08-06 04:49 PM |
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Can you give me a link for the claim |
julianer |
Jan-09-06 10:29 AM |
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How many Jews would contentedly remain under Palestinian sovereignty? |
Darranar |
Jan-08-06 07:11 PM |
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Dismantling settlements does not = 'Judenrein'... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-09-06 04:26 AM |
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Jan-10-06 12:23 AM |
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Which negotiations are you talking about? |
julianer |
Jan-09-06 10:26 AM |
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Israel is indeed trying to create a Jewish majority .. |
sopmod |
Jan-09-06 10:47 PM |
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This has been denied by zionist supporters here |
julianer |
Jan-10-06 02:29 AM |
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Not quite so cut and dried |
sopmod |
Jan-08-06 05:13 AM |
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'too much too fast... |
pelsar |
Jan-08-06 05:16 AM |
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Are you High? An independent Palestine MUST have these territories returne |
sopmod |
Jan-08-06 05:26 AM |
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True. The world community, including the US, should be doing more |
Wordie |
Jan-08-06 11:46 AM |
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Reality check..... this is confusing.... |
pelsar |
Jan-08-06 12:24 PM |
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Loss of stability is one of the birth pangs of democracy |
sopmod |
Jan-08-06 02:29 PM |
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birthing pangs |
pelsar |
Jan-08-06 02:38 PM |
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A small price |
eyl |
Jan-09-06 04:11 AM |
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The Palestinians, obviously... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-09-06 06:00 AM |
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Except that the're not the only ones |
eyl |
Jan-09-06 07:01 AM |
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Then why were you asking who would have to pay? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-09-06 07:06 AM |
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it's called a rhetorical question n/t |
eyl |
Jan-09-06 09:14 AM |
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Well you are blaming the victims |
julianer |
Jan-09-06 10:33 AM |
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Israel destroyed infrastructure?Israel built most of it! |
sopmod |
Jan-09-06 11:14 PM |
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You were there yet you never noticed |
julianer |
Jan-10-06 02:33 AM |
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what bombing of the PA police in GAZA? |
pelsar |
Jan-10-06 05:05 AM |
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This one - |
Englander |
Jan-10-06 06:00 AM |
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Thanks for replying to that |
julianer |
Jan-10-06 10:22 AM |
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tolerence... |
pelsar |
Jan-10-06 02:00 PM |
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Yes, the resident "peacenik". |
Englander |
Jan-11-06 12:59 AM |
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the peacenik... |
pelsar |
Jan-11-06 10:00 AM |
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3 and 4 years ago... |
pelsar |
Jan-10-06 12:37 PM |
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i find this hilarious and so typical..... |
pelsar |
Jan-08-06 01:08 PM |
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You don't get me at all.. |
sopmod |
Jan-08-06 02:36 PM |
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i dont disagree...about the territories...but |
pelsar |
Jan-08-06 02:41 PM |
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What you described wasn't reality... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-09-06 04:39 AM |
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No Violet |
eyl |
Jan-09-06 07:03 AM |
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I've yet to see you or pelsar attempt an answer... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-09-06 07:09 AM |
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We're not the ones |
eyl |
Jan-09-06 09:15 AM |
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So who is? |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-10-06 07:19 AM |
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A prerequisite, no |
eyl |
Jan-10-06 07:30 AM |
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It's not "every Israeli action" - only the illegal ones. |
Englander |
Jan-10-06 07:39 AM |
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which ones are legal? |
pelsar |
Jan-10-06 01:54 PM |
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If you have to ask...... n/t |
Englander |
Jan-11-06 01:45 AM |
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yes i have to ask... |
pelsar |
Jan-11-06 07:43 AM |
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Yeah, who are the beggars! |
Englander |
Jan-10-06 07:41 AM |
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i dont have a single answer.... |
pelsar |
Jan-09-06 10:58 PM |
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That's it? |
Englander |
Jan-10-06 04:14 AM |
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so whats yours? |
pelsar |
Jan-10-06 06:44 AM |
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Warning the civilian population is a war crime? |
eyl |
Jan-10-06 07:27 AM |
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Yes, they are. |
Englander |
Jan-10-06 07:36 AM |
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Well, you ingored part of the sentence |
eyl |
Jan-10-06 08:48 AM |
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I discounted, not ignored, there's a difference. |
Englander |
Jan-11-06 01:47 AM |
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Too right I'll say that's a war crime... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-10-06 07:31 AM |
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So basically |
eyl |
Jan-10-06 09:41 AM |
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none by themselves stop the kassams.... |
pelsar |
Jan-10-06 10:17 AM |
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Good points. |
Behind the Aegis |
Jan-11-06 06:33 AM |
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Apparently, that isn't a good reason to discount a suggestion - |
Englander |
Jan-10-06 04:51 AM |
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and yet... |
pelsar |
Jan-10-06 06:41 AM |
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They need an excuse? n/t |
eyl |
Jan-09-06 04:13 AM |
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I don't think that the world community should reward this sort of strategy |
Wordie |
Jan-10-06 12:01 PM |
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Do you have to be racist? |
julianer |
Jan-09-06 10:15 AM |
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Jews and Palestinians have genetic commonality(race is a non-issue) |
sopmod |
Jan-09-06 11:55 PM |
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Bloody hell...... |
julianer |
Jan-10-06 02:19 AM |
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They won't be calling anyone anything from now on... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jan-10-06 05:54 AM |
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Good |
julianer |
Jan-10-06 06:47 AM |
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Jan-08-06 04:24 AM |
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Well, one would've thought they'd be grateful, really. |
Englander |
Jan-08-06 04:37 AM |
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Yeah. |
bemildred |
Jan-08-06 09:05 AM |
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That's it, absolutely. n/t |
Englander |
Jan-09-06 06:03 AM |
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But if those settlements are all illegal, how in the world could they be |
Wordie |
Jan-08-06 11:42 AM |
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So are you for peace or against it? |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-08-06 01:43 PM |
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Your reply doesn't seem to follow. Could you please explain? n/t |
Wordie |
Jan-08-06 05:20 PM |
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Don't feed him. |
Englander |
Jan-09-06 05:58 AM |
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Because one side has the backing of the Empire of the day - |
Englander |
Jan-09-06 06:02 AM |
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Are the Israelis really that bad?(Black September,Gulf War,N Ireland) |
sopmod |
Jan-09-06 11:35 PM |
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sopmod.... |
pelsar |
Jan-10-06 12:39 AM |
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How can real peace come out of irrational justification of hatred? |
sopmod |
Jan-10-06 12:47 AM |
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No it isn't. |
Englander |
Jan-10-06 03:13 AM |
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israels war crimes... |
pelsar |
Jan-10-06 05:13 AM |
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