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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:32 AM
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24. correct me if I'm wrong, happyslug....
but doesn't there need to be a probable cause determination before a court can order hair and blood samples seized? Wouldn't it be an unreasonable search and seizure, especially given the fundamental privacy issue? And if the privacy issue fails, then what happens to the rationale behind Roe v. Wade?

your logic, if accepted by the courts, would destroy some core Democratic beliefs...
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  -Shouldn't we do the same? RoeBear  Sep-09-03 09:21 PM   #0 
  - One little problem  Wcross   Sep-09-03 09:28 PM   #1 
  - That Bill Of Rights thing is so messy  xJlM   Sep-09-03 09:31 PM   #2 
  - Hair and Blood samples do NOT violate the Fifth  happyslug   Sep-09-03 10:24 PM   #7 
     - what about the 4th amendment? Is there not a  hansberrym   Sep-09-03 11:15 PM   #10 
     - correct me if I'm wrong, happyslug....  DoNotRefill   Sep-11-03 07:32 AM   #24 
        - and amazingly ...  iverglas   Sep-11-03 10:34 AM   #29 
           - Once again, I'm amazed...  DoNotRefill   Sep-11-03 03:39 PM   #39 
              - follow the dots  iverglas   Sep-11-03 04:30 PM   #44 
  - "Do the same"?  acerbic   Sep-09-03 09:32 PM   #3 
  - count me out  syrinx9999   Sep-09-03 09:42 PM   #4 
  - I posted this story in LBN the other day.......  Pert_UK   Sep-09-03 09:43 PM   #5 
  - I posted it as well...  D__S   Sep-09-03 10:38 PM   #8 
  - yeah  iverglas   Sep-09-03 11:07 PM   #9 
  - As bad as it is, I'm much happier here... Thank you.  D__S   Sep-09-03 11:57 PM   #11 
     - keep displaying your ignorance  iverglas   Sep-10-03 01:21 AM   #13 
  - Surveillance cameras in public places? SKREEEEEM!!!!  acerbic   Sep-10-03 12:52 AM   #12 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-10-03 07:30 AM   #15 
  - With all due respect - you are talking absolute crap.  Pert_UK   Sep-10-03 11:10 PM   #17 
  - Just a moment...  acerbic   Sep-10-03 11:54 PM   #19 
     - Hmmm....I thought it was, but apparently not....  Pert_UK   Sep-11-03 12:01 AM   #20 
  - Lets try this again  Spentastic   Sep-11-03 03:56 AM   #22 
  - Pert, the threat of a DNA database is enough to cause you say  jody   Sep-10-03 07:28 AM   #14 
     - Good point. But not really equivalent, IMHO.  Pert_UK   Sep-10-03 11:15 PM   #18 
        - The analogy is that both DNA and RKBA are  jody   Sep-11-03 11:35 AM   #31 
           - Various problems here, some of them just mine......  Pert_UK   Sep-11-03 08:06 PM   #56 
              - You say "They've willingly agreed with the government's assertion that  jody   Sep-12-03 06:06 PM   #57 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-13-03 05:23 PM   #58 
                 - poor jody  iverglas   Sep-15-03 07:21 AM   #59 
  - Probably won't work there, either.  TreasonousBastard   Sep-09-03 09:54 PM   #6 
  - Questions: Is this an extreme right-wing...  hansberrym   Sep-10-03 09:56 PM   #16 
  - Not sure...  RoeBear   Sep-11-03 09:30 AM   #27 
  - It quacks like totalitarianism  draftcaroline   Sep-11-03 12:48 AM   #21 
  - Can anyone..  LibLabUK   Sep-11-03 07:13 AM   #23 
  - For me...  DoNotRefill   Sep-11-03 07:39 AM   #25 
     - Ummm  LibLabUK   Sep-11-03 11:54 AM   #33 
        - and here's an amazing bit  iverglas   Sep-11-03 01:32 PM   #38 
        - I'm sure you'd be concerned....  DoNotRefill   Sep-11-03 03:49 PM   #42 
           - oh lordy  iverglas   Sep-11-03 04:41 PM   #46 
        - 'k  DoNotRefill   Sep-11-03 03:44 PM   #40 
           - I disagree  LibLabUK   Sep-11-03 05:15 PM   #49 
              - Since when....  DoNotRefill   Sep-11-03 05:20 PM   #50 
                 - name that fallacy  iverglas   Sep-11-03 05:34 PM   #51 
                 - Hmm.  LibLabUK   Sep-11-03 05:38 PM   #53 
                    - I think ...  iverglas   Sep-11-03 05:46 PM   #54 
  - compelled to have their DNA on the national database  LastDemInIdaho   Sep-11-03 08:57 AM   #26 
  - one silly question  iverglas   Sep-11-03 10:00 AM   #28 
     - I reckon  Spentastic   Sep-11-03 10:37 AM   #30 
        - ssshhhh!  iverglas   Sep-11-03 11:37 AM   #32 
           - I agree...  LibLabUK   Sep-11-03 12:42 PM   #36 
  - I Think The Fundies Would Fight This One  CO Liberal   Sep-11-03 12:06 PM   #34 
  - Hmm  LibLabUK   Sep-11-03 12:37 PM   #35 
  - Two words: fuck no.  Character Assassin   Sep-11-03 01:15 PM   #37 
  - Vulgar, but highly accurate  Liberal Classic   Sep-11-03 03:45 PM   #41 
  - One word: Welcome  Character Assassin   Sep-11-03 04:06 PM   #43 
  - What power are you referring to?  RoeBear   Sep-11-03 04:40 PM   #45 
     - Good point  Liberal Classic   Sep-11-03 04:45 PM   #47 
     - That's the point: it's not there. Not that that makes any difference  Character Assassin   Sep-11-03 04:49 PM   #48 
        - name two  iverglas   Sep-11-03 05:35 PM   #52 
           - Oh, I think I'll let you make your own call on this one, Ace.  Character Assassin   Sep-11-03 06:15 PM   #55 
  - Are you being serious?  Ergotron   Sep-15-03 09:47 PM   #60 
 

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