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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 12:27 PM
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30. that's funny
"missing your point". Ha ha. My cola spit for the day.

Answer this question honestly:
Does New Jersey prohibit wearing ANY kind
of weapon as a fashion accessory?


(For clarity, I assume that you mean "ALL kinds of weapons".)

Not having, to my recollection, ever been in New Jersey in my life (it's one of a handful of US States I've managed to miss), and for various other reasons having failed to acquire the knowledge I would need in order to answer this question: how would I know? Of course, what I really want to know is: why do you ask?

I'll betcha that the answer is "no". Am I a cleverboots?

Now you try answering my questions, 'k?

Take the weapon of your choice, and apply the four tests I have proposed (or the actual tests used by your Supreme Court in such a case), and determine whether New Jersey WOULD BE ENTITLED to prohibit the weapon in question.

Sikh daggers? Sikhs (in Canada, at least) are not prohibited from, say, carrying their daggers into a public meeting, although carrying weapons into a public meeting is generally prohibited by the Criminal Code.

Why, you ask in bewilderment?

Because of that little criterion # 3 of mine (and not just mine, please do believe me, but feel free to find out for yourself); an interference with my rights is only constitutional

- when the interference with my rights is not disproportionate to the objective.

An interference with a Sikh's rights is only constitutional when the interference with his rights is not disproportionate to the objective.

Getting it at all?

The interference with a Sikh's rights is not just interference with the right to wear the fashion accessories of his choice; it is interference with his right to practise the religion of his choice. We take the right to practise the religion of one's choice just a tad more seriously than the right to wear the fashion accessories of one's choice, silly us.

Of course, the Sikh's dagger is also sheathed and all that; it isn't a switchblade, and it isn't masquerading as something it isn't.

So maybe you can answer my remaining question.

Why would you ask me whether New Jersey prohibits wearing ANY kind of weapon as a fashion accessory? Or, more precisely: what exactly DOES this have to do with the price of tea in China? And: had you tried reading anything I'd already written? Had you tried understanding it?

Even more precisely, why would you not have asked me:

Is there some particular weapon which would score, on that four-part test (which, by the way, I've just paraphrased off the top of my own head), the same way as a spiked wristband and yet is not banned?

What the hell; allow ME to ask YOU that question.

And beg you to stop pretending that apples are oranges, or that you don't know the difference.

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