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Sun Aug-22-04 12:16 PM
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| 18. Yes, and they were used against armored targets |
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Edited on Sun Aug-22-04 12:25 PM by Vladimir
which a civilian plane is not. A P47 could take out decently armored ground targets, of course a bolt action rifle cannot do this - but civilian planes are completely unarmored. If you hit the fuel tank directly, with an incindiary round, and without any mechanisms to stop the fuel from igniting, I don't see why you shouldn't be able to blow it up. In any case, even with a bolt action rifle you could get off more than one round before the plane was evacuated. Seeing as most of the rifles, whether bolt action or semi-automatic, come with 5 or 10 round clips, I really do not understand what you find so implausible about this.
On edit: when I say a bolt-action rifle cannot take out a decently armored ground target, it depends on the target of course. They are not called anti-material rifles for nothing - the whole point is to be able to take a sniper out through a wall.
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fourays2 |
Aug-21-04 08:29 PM |
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If a rifle is a weapon of mass destruction |
Fescue4u |
Aug-21-04 08:37 PM |
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"gun grabbing ninny" |
iverglas |
Aug-21-04 11:52 PM |
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Nice and concise. |
Fescue4u |
Aug-22-04 12:46 AM |
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"threatens the nation’s civil aviation system" |
Wcross |
Aug-21-04 08:48 PM |
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and your point was? |
iverglas |
Aug-22-04 12:03 AM |
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Those rail cars... |
MrSandman |
Aug-22-04 11:34 AM |
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A well-placed crowbar works well on trains, unfortunately. |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-22-04 10:36 PM |
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Some more idle pecking..... |
Wcross |
Aug-22-04 07:19 PM |
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Just look at how successful |
LibraLabSoldier |
Aug-22-04 09:07 PM |
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"Weapon of choice" too...n/t |
MrSandman |
Aug-21-04 08:51 PM |
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Damn terorists! |
minavasht |
Aug-21-04 08:58 PM |
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So what bullet does the thing fire? |
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot |
Aug-21-04 10:28 PM |
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They are rotated in the Mag.... |
MrSandman |
Aug-21-04 10:33 PM |
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A couple of points |
Vladimir |
Aug-22-04 08:29 AM |
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Misleading. |
Zynx |
Aug-22-04 10:08 AM |
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Not only MG to Bolt action |
MrSandman |
Aug-22-04 11:30 AM |
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Yes, and they were used against armored targets |
Vladimir |
Aug-22-04 12:16 PM |
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since we're playing the "if" game |
fourays2 |
Aug-22-04 01:16 PM |
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I would not be at all surprised |
Vladimir |
Aug-22-04 01:18 PM |
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You know Vlad.... |
LibraLabSoldier |
Aug-22-04 10:42 PM |
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Why not... |
MrSandman |
Aug-22-04 10:48 PM |
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Now this is a different argument alltogether |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 04:27 AM |
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What do you think they put... |
MrSandman |
Aug-23-04 07:39 AM |
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Having now researched the matter |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 07:45 AM |
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Possible? |
MrSandman |
Aug-22-04 10:44 PM |
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But then I only claimed the possibility n/t |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 04:19 AM |
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Then a ban on ammonium nitrate.... |
MrSandman |
Aug-23-04 07:34 AM |
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Funny thing about that... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 07:38 AM |
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did the NRA object to tagging ammonium nitrate? |
NorthernSpy |
Aug-23-04 01:14 PM |
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Some of us are very, very confused about tagging gunpowder |
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Aug-23-04 01:26 PM |
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Aug-23-04 01:49 PM |
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yeah -- I thought this discussion sounded familiar! |
NorthernSpy |
Aug-25-04 10:03 AM |
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The NRA opposed tagging gunpowder; their claim was that |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 01:28 PM |
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The NRA opposed all taggants |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 01:43 PM |
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Look it up if you want. It won't hurt you. |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 01:48 PM |
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Don't have to look it up... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 01:49 PM |
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Are you saying I am? |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 01:54 PM |
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Gee, ask a "dumb broad" to explain it to you.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 01:55 PM |
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Are you female? |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 02:00 PM |
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Are you? |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 02:02 PM |
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I was merely acting on your suggestion. |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 02:04 PM |
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And you got the answer you deserved... |
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Aug-23-04 02:05 PM |
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Really... |
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Aug-23-04 04:43 PM |
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Gee, the obvious answer is |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 05:05 PM |
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Don't break the rules? Now that is funny! Thanks! |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 05:07 PM |
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Aug-23-04 05:21 PM |
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What about bandwidth theft? |
skippythwndrdog |
Aug-23-04 07:43 PM |
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Nice pic. |
skippythwndrdog |
Aug-23-04 04:34 PM |
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Aug-23-04 04:37 PM |
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Some things never change. |
skippythwndrdog |
Aug-23-04 04:43 PM |
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Aug-23-04 04:47 PM |
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It's your pic! n/t |
skippythwndrdog |
Aug-23-04 04:50 PM |
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And your imagined splotch.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 04:51 PM |
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Taggants still won't stop Kaboom...n/t |
MrSandman |
Aug-23-04 05:23 PM |
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Well if I had talked about banning anything |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 07:39 AM |
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Wasn't that the topic of the .50 in original post... |
MrSandman |
Aug-23-04 11:48 AM |
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Too too funny.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 11:55 AM |
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You'll find out my position in a second |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 04:36 PM |
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Makah tribe in Washington state has used one on gray whales |
slackmaster |
Aug-23-04 05:02 PM |
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And there I was, trying to be funny |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 05:03 PM |
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I am not going to... |
MrSandman |
Aug-23-04 05:19 PM |
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I'm not sure I see what you mean by |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 05:28 PM |
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I believe it is wrong... |
MrSandman |
Aug-23-04 06:51 PM |
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I don't know about that... |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 07:03 PM |
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Handguns are the real threat... |
MrSandman |
Aug-24-04 08:47 AM |
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Fine with me, sandman... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-24-04 08:56 AM |
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Do some research |
Vladimir |
Aug-24-04 09:17 AM |
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How about... |
MrSandman |
Aug-24-04 04:54 PM |
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But then this proposal |
Vladimir |
Aug-24-04 04:58 PM |
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Sure. |
FeebMaster |
Aug-24-04 05:25 PM |
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Then would the .460 Steyr... |
MrSandman |
Aug-24-04 06:36 PM |
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High performance autos? n/t |
Vladimir |
Aug-24-04 06:49 PM |
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No, |
MrSandman |
Aug-24-04 07:16 PM |
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You are seriously suggesting |
TX-RAT |
Aug-23-04 08:31 AM |
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Chair of the Task Force on Homeland Security? |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-21-04 11:39 PM |
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Like I'd need a .50 cal. |
Zynx |
Aug-21-04 11:48 PM |
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Someone explain to me |
goju |
Aug-22-04 11:09 AM |
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We'll ban those later. (nt) |
FeebMaster |
Aug-22-04 12:13 PM |
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Yeah, imagine that |
MrBenchley |
Aug-22-04 01:12 PM |
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Ha! What a dumbass! It is a shame that people like this get elected. |
FatSlob |
Aug-23-04 11:53 AM |
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Wow...fat slob bashes a Democrat again |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 12:07 PM |
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Aug-23-04 01:26 PM |
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I think it's beneath contempt.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 01:29 PM |
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I'm sorry you're offended!...NOT. n/t |
turnkey |
Aug-23-04 01:33 PM |
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Aug-23-04 01:54 PM |
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It falls into the alarming column. If someone wants to fret over |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 01:31 PM |
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Frankly, I think it shows good judgement... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 01:45 PM |
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do we have proof that they have their hands on any of them? n/t |
turnkey |
Aug-23-04 01:48 PM |
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Yeah, we do.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 01:52 PM |
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"Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda is believed to have obtained ... |
turnkey |
Aug-23-04 02:05 PM |
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Guess you missed the second link |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 02:13 PM |
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Sorry!...I don't accept anything coming from the VPC. |
turnkey |
Aug-23-04 02:33 PM |
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Tough titty... |
MrBenchley |
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Yeah, they do... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 03:35 PM |
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If it were an effective terrorist weapon, it would be in use now. |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 01:50 PM |
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Sez you.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 01:56 PM |
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Don't worry. The terrorists will stick to bigger things. It might |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 02:03 PM |
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Sez you... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 02:06 PM |
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Maloney rhymes with bologna. |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 02:09 PM |
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Yeah, and the RKBA cause is nothing but right wing horseshit... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 02:11 PM |
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Call it a RKBA issue if you want, but this thread is more about |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 02:14 PM |
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Horseshit... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 02:22 PM |
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Gee!...Those of her ilk wouldn't do that...would they? |
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"her ilk" |
MrBenchley |
Aug-24-04 08:07 AM |
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Haven't you noticed how this |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 04:43 PM |
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Shhhhhhh..... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 04:49 PM |
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Who said I was pro-gun? |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 04:54 PM |
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Meaning what? |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 04:54 PM |
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You said: |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 04:58 PM |
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I'm not sure what you mean. If there was a terrorist here that |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 05:06 PM |
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Ah! My bad, sorry |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 05:15 PM |
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Ouch! I'm betting that was no fun. |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 05:41 PM |
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"why nothing like this has happened" |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 05:15 PM |
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Not a very effective example |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-23-04 05:42 PM |
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Sez you.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 06:49 PM |
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How many buildings were knocked down by a firearm? |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-24-04 08:05 AM |
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How many pinheads can dance on an angel? |
MrBenchley |
Aug-24-04 08:12 AM |
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It doesn't sound like you followed the story. |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-24-04 08:18 AM |
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Sez you... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-24-04 09:02 AM |
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Oooh! A blog! It must all be true then. Sorry. |
TheRovingGourmet |
Aug-24-04 09:06 AM |
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Yeah, I have a source... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-24-04 09:18 AM |
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I think that sexism usually |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 04:42 PM |
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Every once in a while you get a glimpse |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 04:50 PM |
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At least I control my language... |
turnkey |
Aug-23-04 06:28 PM |
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I wonder if I am the only one |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 06:36 PM |
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Aug-23-04 06:52 PM |
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How about respected Democrat |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 06:54 PM |
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Nah... I'll stick with my prior assessment. |
turnkey |
Aug-23-04 07:01 PM |
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Why thank you |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 07:07 PM |
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Hey, when I say someone's a drooling fuckwit |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 06:53 PM |
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The guy in the middle I can do without... the other two are OK! |
turnkey |
Aug-23-04 07:04 PM |
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The other two are lying right wing pieces of shit |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 07:13 PM |
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At least they aren't dumb broads, eh? |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 07:14 PM |
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Amazing what our "pro gun democrats" spout, eh? |
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Hmmmm. |
FatSlob |
Aug-23-04 12:12 PM |
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Hmmmmm.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 12:20 PM |
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Shouldn't this be labeled "The Golden BB Bill"? |
skippythwndrdog |
Aug-23-04 12:08 PM |
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Gee, skippy, if they're just like bb guns... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 12:21 PM |
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You're either uninformed |
skippythwndrdog |
Aug-23-04 01:41 PM |
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Gee, skippy.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-23-04 01:47 PM |
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Obsess? Who's obsessed with it? |
skippythwndrdog |
Aug-23-04 04:12 PM |
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As I knew it |
Vladimir |
Aug-23-04 04:51 PM |
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Just a reminder |
MrBenchley |
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And that makes her a gun expert? |
minavasht |
Aug-23-04 02:27 PM |
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Who has to be a gun expert |
MrBenchley |
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You're absolutely correct! |
skippythwndrdog |
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Gee, skippy, are you REALLY pretending |
MrBenchley |
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Are you calling all gun owners |
minavasht |
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Ask me next what the evidence of this thread demonstrates.... |
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Do tell! |
skippythwndrdog |
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I asked a question first. |
minavasht |
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Don't forget racist. |
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Yeah. Damn those RKBAers. |
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Hilarious! |
Columbia |
Aug-23-04 11:22 PM |
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Wow Columbia... |
Vladimir |
Aug-24-04 03:17 AM |
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Wow Vlad |
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Let me try... |
Vladimir |
Aug-24-04 03:32 AM |
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Ok, I will give you that one..... |
LibraLabSoldier |
Aug-24-04 03:37 AM |
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But the terrorists have proven that they don't |
Vladimir |
Aug-24-04 03:42 AM |
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Lets quit dealing in the mantra of What if.... |
LibraLabSoldier |
Aug-24-04 03:56 AM |
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What a childish silly idea.... |
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LOL |
Columbia |
Aug-24-04 08:26 PM |
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Hey if I'd ever claimed this thing could |
Vladimir |
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