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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:27 AM
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94. will no one answer?
Gun control costs us votes
And especially considering that there is no evidence supporting that these additional gun control laws have done anything to reduce violent crime, it is quite prudent to drop it, adopt a serious pro-gun rights stance and use it against the gun-grabbing GOP.


Opposition to the violation of women's rights costs you votes.
And especially considering that there is no evidence that defending women's rights has done anything to reduce ... oh, let's say, single parenthood and child poverty ... it is quite prudent to drop it, adopt a serious anti-choice stance and use it against the soft-on-abortion GOP.

Especially considering that exactly the same thing can be said about Republicans in respect of opposing abortion as you say about them in respect of supporting "gun rights": they have no more acted on their anti-choice rhetoric than, you say, they have acted on their pro-"gun rights" rhetoric.

Why not cut 'em off at the knees and get all those votes? I'm pretty confident that there are at least as many anti-choice votes to be had as there are pro-"gun rights" votes.

Will no one tell me?

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  -John Edwards this morning on This Week With George Stephanoupolos: OpSomBlood  Jul-25-04 10:33 AM   #0 
  - I won't let John Ashcroft take my gun from me.  The Zanti Regent   Jul-25-04 10:36 AM   #1 
  - Or hunting...  MrSandman   Jul-25-04 11:57 AM   #2 
  - self deleted - wrong placement  lunabush   Jul-25-04 01:19 PM   #4 
  - Because gun nuts are single-issue voters  library_max   Jul-30-04 09:49 AM   #45 
  - He must have meant gun owning members of the national guard  Township75   Jul-25-04 01:10 PM   #3 
  - As Always  lunabush   Jul-25-04 01:20 PM   #5 
  - No, I'm very excited to hear this.  OpSomBlood   Jul-25-04 01:28 PM   #6 
  - Glad to hear it  lunabush   Jul-25-04 01:34 PM   #7 
     - Party in the Gungeon!  Columbia   Jul-25-04 01:42 PM   #8 
     - Well, now - thats the spirit  lunabush   Jul-25-04 02:07 PM   #13 
     - No, none of that stuff brings us joy.  OpSomBlood   Jul-25-04 01:45 PM   #9 
     - Gun control costs us votes  Columbia   Jul-25-04 02:00 PM   #10 
     - Too too funny...  MrBenchley   Jul-25-04 03:53 PM   #16 
     - Right, because  goju   Jul-30-04 10:21 AM   #48 
        - MrBenchley was talking about single-issue RKBA voters.  library_max   Jul-30-04 10:44 AM   #49 
           - I hope that is the case  goju   Jul-30-04 01:39 PM   #50 
              - Jeepers....that IS funny....  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 01:48 PM   #51 
                 - Nope, its these folks  goju   Jul-30-04 02:09 PM   #54 
                    - Wait a minute . . . John Edwards and John Kerry post in JPS?  library_max   Jul-30-04 04:27 PM   #55 
                       - It's the RKBAers on the board who gripe and snipe and grumble  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 04:44 PM   #56 
                       - Wait a minute . . . John Edwards and John Kerry post in JPS?"  TX-RAT   Jul-30-04 04:48 PM   #57 
                       - I guess the secret is out....  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 05:01 PM   #58 
                       - Well I dont see how  goju   Jul-30-04 07:26 PM   #63 
                          - Hahahahaha....  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 10:08 PM   #68 
                          - grammar lessons for you too??  iverglas   Aug-01-04 10:18 AM   #93 
     - Costing votes especially in states other than...  MrSandman   Jul-25-04 07:19 PM   #18 
     - will no one answer?  iverglas   Aug-01-04 10:27 AM   #94 
     - oh, and btw  iverglas   Aug-01-04 10:47 AM   #96 
     - and one more thing ... about those votes  iverglas   Aug-01-04 11:22 AM   #97 
     - I wish you would've been aroudn the other day when I was taken to task  lunabush   Jul-25-04 02:06 PM   #12 
     - I thought I posted this...  MrSandman   Jul-25-04 07:25 PM   #19 
        - I do like this program and hope that it stays in place no matter...  JayS   Jul-27-04 03:48 PM   #32 
        - More cases involving this program are in the Law...  JayS   Jul-28-04 11:12 AM   #36 
        - oh yeah  iverglas   Aug-01-04 11:30 AM   #98 
           - Good points.  JayS   Aug-02-04 11:34 AM   #115 
     - And yet, it's strange.  library_max   Jul-30-04 10:12 AM   #47 
        - Why don't you quote us some posts where  FeebMaster   Jul-30-04 02:02 PM   #52 
           - Anything to oblige a Feeb.  library_max   Jul-30-04 05:02 PM   #59 
              - That's the best you can do? Where is the knocking?  FeebMaster   Jul-30-04 05:06 PM   #60 
                 - If I were your optician, I'd make a fortune.  library_max   Jul-30-04 05:15 PM   #61 
                    - No you wouldn't.  FeebMaster   Jul-30-04 05:22 PM   #62 
     - Well...  D__S   Jul-25-04 09:51 PM   #20 
  - Not meant to mock, belittle, or question...  MrSandman   Jul-25-04 02:06 PM   #11 
  - Telling, isn't it?  MrBenchley   Jul-25-04 03:31 PM   #15 
  - How long have you been mod here?  Township75   Jul-25-04 10:17 PM   #21 
  - Hey, when don't the trigger happy amongst us  MrBenchley   Jul-26-04 08:06 AM   #24 
  - I'm quite pleased.  FatSlob   Jul-28-04 11:17 AM   #37 
  - Good for John Edwards, now let's see him walk the walk.n/t  fourays2   Jul-25-04 02:29 PM   #14 
  - I wonder if that's all he said on the subject...  MrBenchley   Jul-25-04 04:22 PM   #17 
  - Pity the poor anti-individual-RKBA enthusiast....  hansberrym   Jul-26-04 12:20 AM   #22 
  - That's REALLY hilarious, Hans...  MrBenchley   Jul-26-04 08:05 AM   #23 
     - Thanks Benchy. BTW: How many is a "handfulk"?  hansberrym   Jul-26-04 11:57 PM   #26 
        - Still peddling that rubbish, eh, hans?  MrBenchley   Jul-27-04 08:38 AM   #27 
        - You and "state militia" Reinhardt are sticking with what ...  hansberrym   Jul-27-04 10:53 PM   #33 
        - don't forget what the "court" said in Korematsu  Romulus   Jul-27-04 09:30 AM   #29 
           - Don't forget Brown vs Board of Education...  MrBenchley   Jul-27-04 09:31 AM   #30 
              - Brown vs. Board of Education UPHELD the 14th amendment,  hansberrym   Jul-27-04 11:11 PM   #34 
                 - Go peddle this rubbish to somebody else, hans...  MrBenchley   Jul-28-04 08:06 AM   #35 
                 - great job, hans!  Romulus   Jul-28-04 11:26 AM   #38 
                 - Thanks, Romulus. You were doing pretty well yourself, I just  hansberrym   Jul-28-04 07:20 PM   #41 
                 - I guess if you can't find an actual court case that supports your position  library_max   Jul-30-04 09:46 AM   #43 
                    - Yeah, but hans has got to do something  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 09:47 AM   #44 
                    - Is it your thesis that the Democratic Platform, John Kerry, and ...  hansberrym   Jul-30-04 09:46 PM   #67 
                       - It's my thesis that there's nothing in the RKBA creed  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 10:12 PM   #69 
                          - What is it that you admire so much about that lying jackass Reinhardt?  hansberrym   Jul-30-04 10:27 PM   #70 
                             - Gee, hans...I love that he annoys the fuck out of you so much  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 10:31 PM   #71 
                                - On the contrary, Reinhardt is such a lying jackass, that the more the  hansberrym   Jul-30-04 10:44 PM   #72 
                                   - Gee, ask me next what he thinks of you...hahahahaha...  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 11:00 PM   #73 
                                      - What is Reinhardt's most compelling argument?  hansberrym   Jul-30-04 11:06 PM   #74 
                                         - Hans...ask me next  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 11:09 PM   #75 
                                            - Hey, I'm getting exactly what I wanted from you...  hansberrym   Jul-30-04 11:30 PM   #76 
                                               - Whatever floats your boat, hans...  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 11:46 PM   #77 
                                               - What is the most respectable argument that judge Reinhardt makes...  hansberrym   Jul-30-04 11:50 PM   #78 
                                               - I think the whole argument is just ducky, hans...  MrBenchley   Jul-30-04 11:53 PM   #79 
                                               - It must have taxed you to your intellectual limits to come up with that...  hansberrym   Jul-31-04 12:50 AM   #80 
                                               - Yeah, hans, I often rack my brain trying to figure out  MrBenchley   Jul-31-04 08:55 AM   #81 
                                               - If your're so familiar, why can't you post a single argument ...  hansberrym   Jul-31-04 11:08 AM   #82 
                                               - Because your contention that he's lying is crap  MrBenchley   Jul-31-04 02:55 PM   #85 
                                               - Respected liberals such as Kerry, Edwards, and the writers of the...  hansberrym   Jul-31-04 03:54 PM   #86 
                                               - Sez you, hans...  MrBenchley   Jul-31-04 06:21 PM   #88 
                                               - I take it as a given that the platform supports the truth, you are free  hansberrym   Aug-01-04 01:39 AM   #90 
                                               - Gee, I take it as a given  MrBenchley   Aug-01-04 08:58 AM   #91 
                                               - As I said before, please keep citing Silveira it only makes my point.  hansberrym   Aug-01-04 12:14 PM   #100 
                                               - There's a difference between a politician trying to attract votes  library_max   Aug-01-04 05:27 PM   #103 
                                               - Are you saying Kerry, Edwards, and the platform are lying to  hansberrym   Aug-01-04 06:53 PM   #110 
                                               - No. The language of politics and the language of law are not the same.  library_max   Aug-02-04 12:17 PM   #116 
                                               - Silveira stands.  library_max   Aug-01-04 05:21 PM   #102 
                                               - What argument do YOU think is most persuasive in Silveira?  hansberrym   Aug-01-04 07:12 PM   #111 
                                               - The most persuasive argument, of course  library_max   Aug-02-04 10:59 AM   #113 
                                               - Isn't there even one argument in Silveira that is not bullshit, and which  hansberrym   Aug-02-04 10:16 PM   #117 
                                               - All your verbiage changes nothing.  library_max   Aug-04-04 10:43 AM   #121 
                    - US v. Miller defines the term militia ....  hansberrym   Jul-30-04 09:24 PM   #66 
                       - The inconsistency is a figment of your imagination.  library_max   Aug-01-04 05:33 PM   #104 
                          - Reinhardt is doubly inconsistent. He disagrees with the Supreme...  hansberrym   Aug-01-04 07:50 PM   #112 
                             - All in your imagination, still.  library_max   Aug-02-04 11:02 AM   #114 
                                - "Resisitance is futile" has forever been the mantra of totalitarians (n/t)  hansberrym   Aug-02-04 10:19 PM   #118 
                                   - Which is why we hear it again and again from the RKBAers....  MrBenchley   Aug-02-04 10:29 PM   #119 
                                   - The law is the law, and that's what we're arguing about.  library_max   Aug-04-04 10:47 AM   #122 
  - Well, lookee here!  MrBenchley   Jul-26-04 08:47 AM   #25 
     - a political grand slam  smelcher   Jul-28-04 12:09 PM   #39 
        - Too too funny....  MrBenchley   Jul-28-04 12:21 PM   #40 
  - why I voted for Edwards in the primary  Romulus   Jul-27-04 09:25 AM   #28 
  - Good man, that Edwards. It is a shame that he is not in the...  JayS   Jul-27-04 03:36 PM   #31 
  - Then why support the AWB?  EconGeek   Jul-30-04 08:27 AM   #42 
     - So . . . wait a minute . . . the AWB bans features that are "effective"?  library_max   Jul-30-04 10:03 AM   #46 
     - Maybe you should read the AWB  FeebMaster   Jul-30-04 02:04 PM   #53 
     - Ignorance is Bliss!  EconGeek   Jul-30-04 08:18 PM   #65 
        - gee, library_max  iverglas   Jul-31-04 11:38 AM   #84 
        - Well, make up your mind.  library_max   Aug-01-04 05:39 PM   #105 
           - Boo hoo.  FeebMaster   Aug-01-04 06:08 PM   #108 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-30-04 08:17 PM   #64 
     - nobody answered last time  iverglas   Jul-31-04 11:37 AM   #83 
        - Fact check.  OpSomBlood   Jul-31-04 05:29 PM   #87 
           - THERE's a laugh..."fact" from op  MrBenchley   Jul-31-04 06:24 PM   #89 
           - actually  iverglas   Aug-01-04 10:00 AM   #92 
              - Not that you're listening...  OpSomBlood   Aug-01-04 10:28 AM   #95 
                 - Is this your final answer?  iverglas   Aug-01-04 11:34 AM   #99 
                 - No, but it's not your role to decide what I "need" either.  OpSomBlood   Aug-01-04 03:37 PM   #101 
                    - if you're gonna answer questions put to other people  iverglas   Aug-03-04 12:14 PM   #120 
                 - Navigating tight hallways? Shooting at multiple targets in the dark?  library_max   Aug-01-04 05:44 PM   #106 
                    - I believe the "category" was usefulness for self-defense.  OpSomBlood   Aug-01-04 05:54 PM   #107 
                       - Explain it to me.  library_max   Aug-01-04 06:39 PM   #109 
 

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