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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #89
93. Gee, op. don't let facts get in your way...
like what the Founding Fathers actually put into law, or how the courts have ruled.

Besides, so many of those "quotes" turn out to be just right wing loony invention. We had a thread started by the bullets for brains bunch some time back based on a 100% phony quote from Thomas Jefferson.

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  -Soon, Osama's Guys Can Buy American Again MrBenchley  May-06-04 04:41 PM   #0 
  - If guns are outlawed only the police will have guns...  LondonAmerican   May-06-04 04:43 PM   #1 
  - If gun nuts were outlawed  MrBenchley   May-06-04 04:45 PM   #2 
  - Referring to the UK or the US?  TX-RAT   May-06-04 04:50 PM   #3 
     - Guns are pretty much outlawed here (UK)  LondonAmerican   May-06-04 04:54 PM   #4 
        - Can't wait until Pert sees this...  MrBenchley   May-06-04 04:59 PM   #5 
        - Sorry mate....  Pert_UK   May-07-04 10:47 AM   #37 
           - Amazing how often the "UK bloodbath" pops up  MrBenchley   May-07-04 10:53 AM   #40 
        - Hmm.. check the stats before making sweeping statements.  LibLabUK   May-06-04 09:39 PM   #19 
  - More grist for the millstone  Liberal Classic   May-06-04 05:18 PM   #6 
  - Yeah, it's amazing  MrBenchley   May-06-04 07:09 PM   #9 
  - this is a lie. only if they want to go through the NFA approval  fourays2   May-06-04 05:24 PM   #7 
  - Not to mention  Fescue4u   May-06-04 07:29 PM   #12 
     - Too TOO funny...  MrBenchley   May-06-04 07:55 PM   #16 
     - More broken record and misinformation  Fescue4u   May-06-04 09:41 PM   #20 
     - Gee, fescue  MrBenchley   May-07-04 09:36 AM   #27 
        - Yes, a full auto weapon smuggled illegally into the country  slackmaster   May-07-04 10:37 AM   #33 
     - I can't let THAT one slide  slackmaster   May-07-04 03:05 PM   #79 
        - It is nearly impossible to legally buy a Class III weapon.  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 06:54 PM   #127 
     - The AWB did not stop the sale of any rifles  john Q2   May-07-04 03:43 PM   #80 
        - Then there's no reason not to renew it, is there?  MrBenchley   May-07-04 04:04 PM   #83 
           - How do you "strengthen" the ban?  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 10:55 AM   #104 
           - Gee, op, the two bills in Congress are a good start...  MrBenchley   May-08-04 11:19 AM   #105 
              - The only "strengthening" is the magazine location.  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 11:49 AM   #106 
                 - Gee, op....  MrBenchley   May-08-04 12:06 PM   #107 
                    - Don't let facts get in your way.  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 12:17 PM   #108 
                       - I stand on facts...and don't let gun nut horseshit get in MY way  MrBenchley   May-08-04 12:25 PM   #109 
                          - Ad hominems are easier than actual critical analysis.  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 12:30 PM   #110 
                          - And horseshit from the stentorian not even worth thinking about  MrBenchley   May-08-04 12:36 PM   #112 
                             - If you don't care what I think, stop responding to my posts.  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 12:42 PM   #113 
                             - Gee, and yet I keep posting facts  MrBenchley   May-08-04 12:54 PM   #116 
                             - The photo of Senator Feinstein tells the truth  slackmaster   May-08-04 12:43 PM   #114 
                                - Notice how he never actually addressed the "strengthening" of the ban.  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 12:45 PM   #115 
                                   - Gee, op...why do you suppose the gun lobby is fighting it so hard?  MrBenchley   May-08-04 12:57 PM   #117 
                                      - Maybe they are fighting the bill...  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 01:15 PM   #118 
                                      - Or maybe  MrBenchley   May-08-04 01:22 PM   #119 
                                         - What makes a rifle "military style"?  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 01:27 PM   #120 
                                         - Cry me a fucking river, op...  MrBenchley   May-08-04 01:39 PM   #121 
                                         - Spin, spin, and more spin  slackmaster   May-08-04 02:20 PM   #122 
                                         - How exactly...  beevul   May-08-04 04:16 PM   #124 
                                            - Gee, beev...  MrBenchley   May-08-04 04:21 PM   #125 
                                      - Well Sarah Brady agrees  john Q2   May-08-04 11:06 PM   #129 
                          - You've fallen for desperate propaganda  slackmaster   May-08-04 12:31 PM   #111 
           - But then again there is no reason to renew it.  john Q2   May-08-04 11:09 PM   # 
           - But then again there is no reason to renew it.  john Q2   May-08-04 11:09 PM   #130 
  - Does this author also work for the examiner?  beevul   May-06-04 05:35 PM   #8 
  - Gee, most people call those facts  MrBenchley   May-06-04 07:13 PM   #10 
  - Rolling my eyes  Fescue4u   May-06-04 07:26 PM   #11 
  - Gee, fescue...  MrBenchley   May-06-04 07:34 PM   #13 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-06-04 07:37 PM   #14 
     - Gee, fescue, I'm not the one ignoring reality...  MrBenchley   May-06-04 07:50 PM   #15 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-06-04 08:11 PM   #17 
        - It's a fact that the USA has the highest murder rate of advanced nations  billbuckhead   May-06-04 08:40 PM   #18 
        - You may call Civil rights worthless.  Fescue4u   May-06-04 09:41 PM   #21 
        - Makes the point eloquently  MrBenchley   May-07-04 09:30 AM   #24 
           - What point?  slackmaster   May-07-04 11:48 AM   #47 
        - Not me, fescue...  MrBenchley   May-07-04 09:45 AM   #28 
        - Back to sex references again?  FatSlob   May-07-04 10:14 AM   #30 
     - Straw Man Fallacy  slackmaster   May-07-04 10:46 AM   #36 
  - Terrorist Rifle Attack vs Terrorist Box Cutter Attack.  TexasMexican   May-06-04 10:01 PM   #22 
  - Gee, there's gun nut "logic" or whatever the hell it is...  MrBenchley   May-07-04 09:32 AM   #25 
     - The point is that terrorists are creative.  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 10:17 AM   #31 
        - No, the point is that there's no reason to have these weapons  MrBenchley   May-07-04 10:50 AM   #39 
           - People enjoy shooting them safely and legally.  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 12:18 PM   #53 
              - Let em shoot something else  MrBenchley   May-07-04 12:25 PM   #56 
                 - False premise  slackmaster   May-07-04 12:26 PM   #58 
                 - Safely used firearms don't endager the public.  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 01:00 PM   #64 
                    - Yeah, and pinheads with assault weapons are a menace  MrBenchley   May-07-04 02:14 PM   #70 
                       - Follow up a caustic ad hominem attack with a more caustic one.  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 03:49 PM   #81 
                          - Always happy to oblige  MrBenchley   May-07-04 04:02 PM   #82 
                             - Hows the gun legislation in the Philippines going, Bench?  minavasht   May-07-04 04:11 PM   #84 
                                - Columbine Father Challenges Cheney On Assault Weapons  MrBenchley   May-07-04 04:28 PM   #85 
                                   - Gee, Bench  minavasht   May-07-04 04:52 PM   #88 
                                      - Columbine Father Challenges Cheney On Assault Weapons  MrBenchley   May-07-04 05:03 PM   #90 
                                         - "Assault weapons" used in less than 3% of gun crimes.  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 05:05 PM   #91 
                                            - Proof the AWB made an impact  MrBenchley   May-07-04 05:07 PM   #92 
                                               - Irrelevant statistic  slackmaster   May-07-04 05:41 PM   #96 
                                               - That statistic is on "assault weapons" called out by name in the AWB.  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 08:22 AM   #98 
                                                  - Cry me a fucking river....  MrBenchley   May-08-04 09:59 AM   #102 
                                                     - You are judged in part by the company you keep  slackmaster   May-08-04 10:26 AM   #103 
  - The AK-47 isn't an American rifle.  OpSomBlood   May-06-04 10:05 PM   #23 
  - Do you want to pretend Americans don't SELL them, op?  MrBenchley   May-07-04 09:34 AM   #26 
     - If they aren't American citizens...  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 09:53 AM   #29 
        - Legal resident aliens can by regular firearms as well  slackmaster   May-07-04 10:45 AM   #34 
        - Gun show loophole  MrBenchley   May-07-04 10:45 AM   #35 
           - Machineguns cannot be transferred casually at gun shows  slackmaster   May-07-04 10:48 AM   #38 
  - Contemptible garbage propaganda with no merit whatsoever  slackmaster   May-07-04 10:34 AM   #32 
  - So thats why they ended using box cutters!  minavasht   May-07-04 11:35 AM   #41 
  - Why not let the gun industry cash in, eh, Mina?  MrBenchley   May-07-04 11:42 AM   #43 
     - There you go again with the automatic weapons charade  slackmaster   May-07-04 11:44 AM   #45 
     - Braking news!!!!!! Terrorists training camps all over USA!!!! On CNN now!!  minavasht   May-07-04 12:32 PM   #59 
        - They are capable of spray-cutting, too!  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 12:56 PM   #63 
        - Yeah, there's that gun nut "logic" or whatever the hell it is...  MrBenchley   May-07-04 02:16 PM   #71 
           - Im with you on this one, Bench!  minavasht   May-07-04 02:40 PM   #77 
              - No joke...they are using the term "assault pistol" now.  OpSomBlood   May-08-04 08:27 AM   #99 
  - One more conspicuous lie in the CSGV piece  slackmaster   May-07-04 11:37 AM   #42 
  - Gotta question Slack  TX-RAT   May-07-04 11:44 AM   #44 
     - Nope  slackmaster   May-07-04 11:45 AM   #46 
        - Are you saying  TX-RAT   May-07-04 12:44 PM   #60 
           - Yes, that is what he is saying.  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 12:52 PM   #62 
           - Brand new mags for sale  TX-RAT   May-07-04 01:13 PM   #65 
              - They're legal if they were manufactured before the ban. (nt)  FeebMaster   May-07-04 01:23 PM   #66 
                 - Amazing  TX-RAT   May-07-04 02:17 PM   #72 
                    - Inaccurate analysis of the situation  slackmaster   May-07-04 02:19 PM   #73 
                       - The mags i just looked at a Western Corp were new not surplus.  TX-RAT   May-07-04 02:25 PM   #74 
                          - Yes, manufactured before September 1994  slackmaster   May-07-04 02:27 PM   #75 
           - Affirmative  slackmaster   May-07-04 02:10 PM   #67 
  - Count the lies at csgv.org.  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 11:54 AM   #48 
     - Excellent summary!  slackmaster   May-07-04 11:57 AM   #49 
     - Nary a one...  MrBenchley   May-07-04 12:10 PM   #50 
     - I only referred to the truth there:  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 12:13 PM   #51 
     - Nope...  MrBenchley   May-07-04 12:23 PM   #55 
        - Safety rules apply to "prop guns" too...even though it wasn't a prop.  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 12:50 PM   #61 
           - Tell it to the stentorian  MrBenchley   May-07-04 02:11 PM   #68 
              - Hang it up, MrBenchley  slackmaster   May-07-04 02:29 PM   #76 
     - Everyone take careful notice  slackmaster   May-07-04 12:15 PM   #52 
     - Yes, count the lies at the stentorian...  MrBenchley   May-07-04 12:20 PM   #54 
     - The careful reader will note that MrBenchley proves himself wrong  slackmaster   May-07-04 12:25 PM   #57 
        - I've been to the veterinarian and back  slackmaster   May-07-04 02:13 PM   #69 
        - Evidently HE is discussing the AWB in Philippines  minavasht   May-07-04 02:50 PM   #78 
        - IIRC, These are illegal also...  MrSandman   May-07-04 07:28 PM   #97 
           - Another interesting thing about that Uzi specifications table  slackmaster   May-08-04 09:53 AM   #100 
              - Am I wrong about the open bolt?  MrSandman   May-08-04 03:57 PM   #123 
                 - No new semiauto firearms can be made with open-bolt actions  slackmaster   May-08-04 04:30 PM   #126 
                    - The only way to build a semi-auto mg-34  FeebMaster   May-08-04 07:55 PM   #128 
                       - That agrees with my interpretation of the regulations  slackmaster   May-09-04 08:38 AM   #131 
     - More CSGV lies...  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 04:28 PM   #86 
        - The CSGV is 100% correct  MrBenchley   May-07-04 04:45 PM   #87 
           - Ignore the quotes from the Founders on individual gun ownership.  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 04:52 PM   #89 
              - Gee, op. don't let facts get in your way...  MrBenchley   May-07-04 05:13 PM   #93 
                 - You argue the intent of the Founders...  OpSomBlood   May-07-04 05:30 PM   #94 
                 - No, op, I point out what the courts say  MrBenchley   May-07-04 05:35 PM   #95 
                 - And you started this thread based on 100% phony data from CSGV  slackmaster   May-08-04 09:56 AM   #101 
 

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