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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 12:33 PM
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7. Second Amendment is not an indvidual right
There are two cases on this subject. One is an extremely poorly written decision out of the Fifth Circ. that holds that there is an individual right but that it is such a weak right that is okay to prohibit all men getting a divorce in Texas with the standard pretrial divorce orders from possessing a handgun during the divorce.

The better law is the case from the Nineth Cir. See The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday ruled that there is no individual right to gun possession, holding that only state-run militias have a constitutional right to bear arms.

Weaving together historical arcana, legal opinions both obscure and well-known, and scores of scholarly articles, the court issued a 69-page magnum opus interpreting the 27 words of the Second Amendment in a way that contradicts a recent federal appellate court decision and the opinion of the attorney general of the United States.

"The debates of the founding era demonstrate that the second of the first 10 amendments to the Constitution was included in order to preserve the efficacy of the state militias for the people's defense -- not to ensure an individual right to possess weapons," Judge Stephen Reinhardt wrote.

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  -Congressional 2nd Amendment Caucus FatSlob  Apr-29-04 11:17 AM   #0 
  - The Republicans are playing pro-gun again.  FeebMaster   Apr-29-04 11:31 AM   #1 
  - Hmm.  FeebMaster   Apr-29-04 11:40 AM   #2 
  - This is a joke  Gothmog   Apr-29-04 11:46 AM   #3 
  - The National Guard was established 100 years after the 2A  OpSomBlood   Apr-29-04 11:48 AM   #4 
  - Are you serious?  FatSlob   Apr-29-04 11:52 AM   #5 
  - The Bill of Rights was created to guarantee the rights of individuals...  Township75   Apr-29-04 11:56 AM   #6 
  - Second Amendment is not an indvidual right  Gothmog   Apr-29-04 12:33 PM   #7 
  - Then why say "right of the people"...  OpSomBlood   Apr-29-04 01:09 PM   #8 
  - Woven out of context by Honest Abe?  MrSandman   Apr-29-04 01:12 PM   #9 
  - Define "better case law".  DoNotRefill   Apr-29-04 05:30 PM   #10 
  - "better case law" = what I agree with.  DonP   Apr-29-04 05:34 PM   #11 
     - interesting mythology  iverglas   May-03-04 06:36 PM   #16 
     - Because, gun nutters love scummy wingnuts  Sandpiper   May-09-04 07:37 PM   #21 
        - Is the freedom of the press a progressive issue ?  hansberrym   May-09-04 08:00 PM   #22 
           - I can only wonder what the founders would have thought  Sandpiper   May-10-04 01:31 AM   #23 
              - The sort of folks in this caucus  MrBenchley   May-10-04 07:58 AM   #24 
     - Yeah, I mean think of who dislikes the ninth circuit the most  Sandpiper   May-09-04 07:23 PM   #20 
  - Another Reinhardt fan?  hansberrym   Apr-29-04 08:14 PM   #12 
  - More from Honest Abe Reinhardt  hansberrym   Apr-29-04 08:19 PM   #13 
  - Compare Reinhardt to the Supreme Court  hansberrym   Apr-29-04 09:19 PM   #14 
  - They've got the complete member list up.  FeebMaster   May-03-04 05:53 PM   #15 
  - that's pretty impressive  iverglas   May-03-04 06:39 PM   #17 
     - Who is claiming to agree with their policy? (nt)  FeebMaster   May-03-04 07:40 PM   #18 
  - Good for the members??????????  MrBenchley   May-05-04 07:16 AM   #19 

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