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Wed Apr-07-04 05:40 PM
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"I find it hilarious that you want to run away from the website you linked to and the viewpoint the quiz represented...plus you want the rest of us to believe you never ever clicked on the link at the bottom even though the quiz was so much fun..."
You're the one who said you agreed with Jackney Sneeb on concealed carry and are now denying it.
"Of course you're also claiming that McClure-Volkmer is repressive gun legislation....which is utterly absurdist."
How is McClure-Volkmer not repressive gun control? It banned civilian manufacture of an entire class of small arm. If that isn't repressive gun control I don't know what is. It makes the AWB look like pro-gun legislation.
"But then I don't see any dilemna...it's crystal clear your posts are never meant to be taken seriously, and so teasing you about the inconsistencies within them for a bit of fun is the only response worth making."
That's a good one. Tell us again about those taggants in European smokeless powder. Or the one about how whenever it talks about the rights of "the people" in the bill of rights, it's really talking about a collective right, that one was good. Of course, I'm still waiting for your explanation on what you consider a valid need for obtaining a concealed carry permit.
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| -Should the government be allowed to keep lists of firearm owners? |
JohnLocke |
Apr-05-04 04:42 PM |
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If they are assault weapons then yes |
noahmijo |
Apr-05-04 04:55 PM |
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People use "assault weapons" for hunting and sport too |
slackmaster |
Apr-05-04 05:00 PM |
#3 |
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Never seen anybody hunt with a assault weapon. |
TX-RAT |
Apr-05-04 05:07 PM |
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I know people who use AR-15s on coyotes |
slackmaster |
Apr-05-04 05:10 PM |
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Why do you feel the need... |
RoeBear |
Apr-05-04 05:00 PM |
#5 |
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I'll clarify |
noahmijo |
Apr-05-04 05:09 PM |
#13 |
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Ah. But... |
DoNotRefill |
Apr-05-04 05:16 PM |
#16 |
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Not such a farfetched fear |
slackmaster |
Apr-05-04 05:21 PM |
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True |
noahmijo |
Apr-05-04 05:28 PM |
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Let's say... |
RoeBear |
Apr-05-04 05:33 PM |
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There are lots of kinds of lethal violence that wouldn't work w/o firearms |
library_max |
Apr-05-04 05:40 PM |
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Course I didn't say get rid of all firearms... |
RoeBear |
Apr-05-04 06:12 PM |
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I'm definitely not one of those people |
noahmijo |
Apr-05-04 06:31 PM |
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I'm sorry - I thought you said |
library_max |
Apr-05-04 07:07 PM |
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Fair enough... |
RoeBear |
Apr-05-04 08:09 PM |
#36 |
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well... |
DoNotRefill |
Apr-06-04 02:54 AM |
#45 |
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And here we have the fundamental problem clarified. |
library_max |
Apr-06-04 01:57 PM |
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Let's ignore the facts.... |
DoNotRefill |
Apr-06-04 03:21 PM |
#77 |
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So bombs are more effective than firearms. |
library_max |
Apr-06-04 05:49 PM |
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Because most criminals don't need that much effectiveness |
Columbia |
Apr-06-04 07:20 PM |
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You know why bomb homicides outnumber gun homicides in Israel? |
library_max |
Apr-07-04 09:36 AM |
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You're kidding right? |
Columbia |
Apr-07-04 01:36 PM |
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Since we're playing "What if" |
RoeBear |
Apr-06-04 07:16 PM |
#88 |
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Archie Bunker, on All in the Family |
library_max |
Apr-07-04 09:27 AM |
#96 |
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Come back when you've done... |
RoeBear |
Apr-07-04 01:31 PM |
#109 |
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NRA studies? |
library_max |
Apr-07-04 04:00 PM |
#127 |
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Amazing |
Columbia |
Apr-07-04 01:37 PM |
#111 |
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I don't believe thats what they meant. |
TX-RAT |
Apr-07-04 01:53 PM |
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If they are about to kill me |
Columbia |
Apr-07-04 01:56 PM |
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I don't think anyone else believes that's what they meant |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 01:58 PM |
#116 |
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Common sense can't be taught Mr.B |
TX-RAT |
Apr-07-04 02:39 PM |
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And yet we see those words |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 02:48 PM |
#120 |
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Yeah, it is amazing.... |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 01:56 PM |
#114 |
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such funny questions |
iverglas |
Apr-07-04 02:46 PM |
#118 |
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Because they're trained combatants. |
library_max |
Apr-07-04 04:02 PM |
#128 |
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Yes |
Columbia |
Apr-07-04 04:25 PM |
#132 |
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Do you carry a peace officer certification? |
TX-RAT |
Apr-07-04 04:31 PM |
#134 |
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Military |
Columbia |
Apr-07-04 04:33 PM |
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A little more info please |
TX-RAT |
Apr-07-04 04:41 PM |
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Although not specifically LE related MOS |
Columbia |
Apr-07-04 05:58 PM |
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"Utilized this training in real-life scenarios on a daily basis." |
library_max |
Apr-08-04 10:40 AM |
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You beat me to it |
TX-RAT |
Apr-08-04 10:44 AM |
#154 |
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Utilized in Iraq |
Columbia |
Apr-08-04 12:07 PM |
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Okay, let's accept that at face value. |
library_max |
Apr-08-04 03:09 PM |
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Re-read post 135 |
Columbia |
Apr-08-04 03:22 PM |
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"Equal rights for all, not just the privileged." |
iverglas |
Apr-08-04 04:30 PM |
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dupe |
Jack_DeLeon |
Aug-01-04 03:33 PM |
#187 |
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IMO |
Jack_DeLeon |
Aug-01-04 03:35 PM |
#188 |
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Thank God for all this training law enforcement gets. |
FeebMaster |
Apr-08-04 03:36 PM |
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Never said they needed to be |
TX-RAT |
Apr-08-04 03:41 PM |
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And then trips to a range once a year |
Columbia |
Apr-08-04 03:48 PM |
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Getting yourself killed by trying to outdraw a mugger whose gun is drawn |
library_max |
Apr-08-04 03:58 PM |
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Different situations require different decisions |
Columbia |
Apr-08-04 04:11 PM |
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But again, |
library_max |
Apr-08-04 04:20 PM |
#168 |
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In the real world |
Columbia |
Apr-08-04 04:56 PM |
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That "statistic" is a flat-out lie. |
library_max |
Apr-08-04 05:24 PM |
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Teaching a person how to use firearms is easy. |
TX-RAT |
Apr-08-04 04:01 PM |
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Tis |
Columbia |
Apr-08-04 04:13 PM |
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Excuse me? |
TX-RAT |
Apr-08-04 04:25 PM |
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All it takes is a few seconds |
Columbia |
Apr-08-04 04:55 PM |
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well |
thomas82 |
Aug-01-04 03:39 PM |
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some stats: |
DoNotRefill |
Apr-06-04 02:48 AM |
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OK |
MrSandman |
Apr-05-04 08:45 PM |
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You'll be glad to know that |
FeebMaster |
Apr-06-04 02:54 PM |
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assualt weapons by definition are semi-auto |
fourays2 |
Aug-01-04 11:09 AM |
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Yes! |
BareKnuckledLiberal |
Apr-05-04 04:58 PM |
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Another Metric System Enthusiast! |
slackmaster |
Apr-05-04 05:01 PM |
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Kaj mi, ankauxe! |
BareKnuckledLiberal |
Apr-05-04 05:02 PM |
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Jeb Bush and his banana republic... |
MrBenchley |
Apr-05-04 05:00 PM |
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They keep lists of car owners. |
library_max |
Apr-05-04 05:00 PM |
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Not exactly quite |
slackmaster |
Apr-05-04 05:02 PM |
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You don't really grasp the nature of databases |
library_max |
Apr-05-04 05:26 PM |
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I am a database administrator |
slackmaster |
Apr-05-04 05:35 PM |
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they keep lists of voters, too.... |
DoNotRefill |
Apr-05-04 05:18 PM |
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Car registration was originally just to keep track of cars |
slackmaster |
Apr-05-04 05:24 PM |
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Wow I never even thought of that... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Aug-01-04 11:50 PM |
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You are correct. |
Bowline |
Aug-02-04 08:04 AM |
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Gee, refill... |
MrBenchley |
Apr-05-04 05:29 PM |
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Excuse me. |
library_max |
Apr-05-04 05:30 PM |
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Not necessarily... |
DoNotRefill |
Apr-06-04 02:59 AM |
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How's that going to work? |
library_max |
Apr-06-04 10:31 AM |
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Simple... |
DoNotRefill |
Apr-06-04 03:23 PM |
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Too cheap and easy. (nt) |
FeebMaster |
Apr-06-04 03:33 PM |
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And absolutely no room for corruption |
lunabush |
Apr-07-04 10:16 AM |
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Yeah, but we have those problems now. (nt) |
FeebMaster |
Apr-07-04 10:40 AM |
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ok |
lunabush |
Apr-07-04 11:02 AM |
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I don't want to argue |
FeebMaster |
Apr-07-04 11:10 AM |
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Well, goddammit, I DO want to argue |
lunabush |
Apr-07-04 11:17 AM |
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Maybe feeb could put up a flag or something |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 11:19 AM |
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Right. |
FeebMaster |
Apr-07-04 04:28 PM |
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I will say the word "Jackney Sneeb" |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 04:43 PM |
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Funny you should mention Jackney Sneeb. |
FeebMaster |
Apr-07-04 04:48 PM |
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Even funnier that you're still trying to fob him off |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 04:55 PM |
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Hey, I'm not the one who agrees with him |
FeebMaster |
Apr-07-04 05:00 PM |
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You're the one who loved his quiz enough |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 05:07 PM |
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Yes I did enjoy the quiz. |
FeebMaster |
Apr-07-04 05:11 PM |
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Gee, feeb... |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 05:28 PM |
#149 |
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Gee, bench... |
FeebMaster |
Apr-07-04 05:40 PM |
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but it's a familiar mindset |
iverglas |
Apr-07-04 11:29 AM |
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oh dear |
iverglas |
Apr-06-04 04:23 PM |
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A simple comparative check against what? |
library_max |
Apr-06-04 05:52 PM |
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nope... |
DoNotRefill |
Apr-06-04 09:25 PM |
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Ah, so now we have a list. |
library_max |
Apr-07-04 09:34 AM |
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So do you support Ashcroft's plan to record every transaction involving... |
Township75 |
Apr-05-04 08:51 PM |
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Yes |
TX-RAT |
Apr-05-04 05:05 PM |
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the govt should be *required* to keep lists of firearms owners |
iverglas |
Apr-05-04 05:05 PM |
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Yes, as soon as they keep track of who voted for who. |
DoNotRefill |
Apr-05-04 05:13 PM |
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Only if they can figure out how to make criminals register their guns.. |
toiletbush |
Apr-05-04 05:18 PM |
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A good start there would be to close the gun show loophole |
library_max |
Apr-05-04 05:32 PM |
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heh heh |
iverglas |
Apr-05-04 05:51 PM |
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Maybe it's because... |
RoeBear |
Apr-05-04 08:12 PM |
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Hmmm... |
Me Me Meme |
Apr-05-04 10:39 PM |
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Gee, roe... |
MrBenchley |
Apr-06-04 08:36 AM |
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I wouldn't exactly say "a lot" |
Superfly |
Apr-06-04 08:38 AM |
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I've given up on even parsing this stuff |
iverglas |
Apr-06-04 08:48 AM |
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Original statement was edited by Bench |
Superfly |
Apr-06-04 08:50 AM |
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And the RKBA crowd STILL posts tired right wing crap |
MrBenchley |
Apr-06-04 02:22 PM |
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Please don't infer that I'm a right winger... |
RoeBear |
Apr-06-04 01:27 PM |
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Gee, roe... |
MrBenchley |
Apr-06-04 03:39 PM |
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You're boring me... |
RoeBear |
Apr-06-04 03:56 PM |
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Gee, roe, you long ago bored the shit out of me |
MrBenchley |
Apr-06-04 04:06 PM |
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Just like how drug and alcohol prohibion worked so well too |
Columbia |
Apr-05-04 06:14 PM |
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I forget |
iverglas |
Apr-05-04 06:37 PM |
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They spring |
Me Me Meme |
Apr-05-04 10:43 PM |
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No. No! A Thousand times NO!!!! |
Me Me Meme |
Apr-05-04 07:52 PM |
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No, because that might divert funds from a database that lists what books. |
Township75 |
Apr-05-04 08:55 PM |
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Um |
Wingnut357 |
Apr-05-04 11:31 PM |
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They can get the gun, that's what matters. |
library_max |
Apr-06-04 10:35 AM |
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Missing the point |
Wingnut357 |
Apr-06-04 06:56 PM |
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Alas, that happens not to be true. |
library_max |
Apr-07-04 01:31 PM |
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Not quite right |
slackmaster |
Apr-07-04 02:46 PM |
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and now for the real answer |
iverglas |
Apr-07-04 02:52 PM |
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You seem to be unclear on a couple of concepts |
slackmaster |
Apr-07-04 03:05 PM |
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accuracy shmaccuracy |
iverglas |
Apr-07-04 03:36 PM |
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It all boils down to one issue for me |
slackmaster |
Apr-07-04 03:38 PM |
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as it does for me |
iverglas |
Apr-07-04 04:03 PM |
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I NEVER SAID "gun show sales are NOT exempt" |
slackmaster |
Apr-08-04 10:28 AM |
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I'll buy that you're fighting a propaganda war. |
library_max |
Apr-08-04 03:18 PM |
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Please answer one question with a possible followup |
slackmaster |
Apr-08-04 03:32 PM |
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I was referring to private gun sales at gun shows. |
library_max |
Apr-08-04 04:04 PM |
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Dealing in guns without an FFL is a federal crime |
slackmaster |
Apr-09-04 09:03 AM |
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Again, hard to believe that the inaccuracy isn't deliberate here. |
library_max |
Apr-09-04 09:48 AM |
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You think cops are incapable of identifying someone engaged in business? |
slackmaster |
Apr-09-04 11:26 AM |
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Anyone who can't see that there is no enforceable difference |
library_max |
Apr-09-04 11:55 AM |
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You have a lot of general ideas about this subject but no specifics |
slackmaster |
Apr-09-04 12:06 PM |
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Typical. |
library_max |
Apr-09-04 12:15 PM |
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Typical. |
slackmaster |
Apr-09-04 12:22 PM |
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You know, Robert Benchley, a writer I admire, |
MrBenchley |
Apr-09-04 12:23 PM |
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Robert Benchley was a very good writer |
slackmaster |
Apr-10-04 04:01 PM |
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It is indeed |
iverglas |
Apr-09-04 03:26 PM |
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The real world is just a closed book to some people. |
library_max |
Apr-07-04 04:11 PM |
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Gun show problem |
TX-RAT |
Apr-07-04 04:19 PM |
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Gun shows really took after 1986 |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 04:54 PM |
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Ahh McClure-Volkmer, |
FeebMaster |
Apr-07-04 04:57 PM |
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Jackney Sneeb tell you that, feeb? |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 05:09 PM |
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Why would I need Jackney Sneeb to tell me |
FeebMaster |
Apr-07-04 05:14 PM |
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Thanks for the info. |
TX-RAT |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
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Any time |
MrBenchley |
Apr-07-04 05:08 PM |
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oh, *I* see |
iverglas |
Apr-08-04 04:23 PM |
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Funny that the GOP hasn't proposed |
MrBenchley |
Apr-06-04 06:40 AM |
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Seeing how the anti-gun lobby groups are led by a Reagan lover... |
Township75 |
Apr-06-04 08:04 AM |
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Wow, guess the RKBA cause has resorted to outright fantasy |
MrBenchley |
Apr-06-04 08:12 AM |
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Sure...like the one in Canada? |
Superfly |
Apr-06-04 08:17 AM |
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Let's see... |
MrBenchley |
Apr-06-04 08:22 AM |
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You're very welcome... |
Superfly |
Apr-06-04 08:25 AM |
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Sez you, fly... |
MrBenchley |
Apr-06-04 08:40 AM |
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Let's not get testy, now.... |
Superfly |
Apr-06-04 08:43 AM |
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then parse this one for me |
iverglas |
Apr-06-04 09:25 AM |
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And as I've said twice, now... |
Superfly |
Apr-06-04 09:30 AM |
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it's hopeless |
iverglas |
Apr-06-04 10:01 AM |
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OK... |
Superfly |
Apr-06-04 10:08 AM |
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dandy |
iverglas |
Apr-06-04 10:24 AM |
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Depends: |
Superfly |
Apr-06-04 10:26 AM |
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oh well |
iverglas |
Apr-06-04 10:41 AM |
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For cripes sake... |
Superfly |
Apr-06-04 10:48 AM |
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and my question is this |
iverglas |
Apr-06-04 11:19 AM |
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not necessarily bad |
Me Me Meme |
Apr-06-04 10:32 PM |
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Why not? |
MrBenchley |
Apr-06-04 09:28 AM |
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Analogy? Guffaw.... |
Superfly |
Apr-06-04 09:32 AM |
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It was not a strawman and was right on the money |
MrBenchley |
Apr-06-04 10:18 AM |
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Yes, |
AmyJ |
Apr-06-04 07:07 PM |
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Maybe the government shouldn't be keeping |
FeebMaster |
Apr-06-04 09:57 PM |
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Absolutely YES! |
Pert_UK |
Apr-07-04 05:05 AM |
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I doesn't |
Me Me Meme |
Apr-07-04 05:50 AM |
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I see that the Debating Society President is online.... |
Pert_UK |
Apr-07-04 06:34 AM |
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Did you choose your sig line just for this debate? |
library_max |
Apr-07-04 09:39 AM |
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I set it up a year ago, referring to the Chimp in Chief.... |
Pert_UK |
Apr-07-04 12:36 PM |
#107 |
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Very cute |
Me Me Meme |
Apr-07-04 01:41 PM |
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See, now THAT'S a sensible reply..... |
Pert_UK |
Apr-07-04 02:58 PM |
#122 |
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Cool |
Me Me Meme |
Apr-07-04 03:22 PM |
#124 |
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I guess it depends on whether or not you trust the government, |
Undemcided |
Aug-01-04 10:18 AM |
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There is only one possible use for a list of gun owners... |
Bowline |
Aug-01-04 03:54 PM |
#190 |
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Just like they made that list of car owners and confiscated autos...OOOPS! |
MrBenchley |
Aug-02-04 07:52 AM |
#192 |
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The government keeps a list of car owners for tax purposes. |
Bowline |
Aug-02-04 08:02 AM |
#193 |