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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. I'm sorry - I thought you said
"Use any definition of assault weapon you like."
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  -Should the government be allowed to keep lists of firearm owners? JohnLocke  Apr-05-04 04:42 PM   #0 
  - If they are assault weapons then yes  noahmijo   Apr-05-04 04:55 PM   #1 
  - People use "assault weapons" for hunting and sport too  slackmaster   Apr-05-04 05:00 PM   #3 
  - Never seen anybody hunt with a assault weapon.  TX-RAT   Apr-05-04 05:07 PM   #12 
     - I know people who use AR-15s on coyotes  slackmaster   Apr-05-04 05:10 PM   #14 
  - Why do you feel the need...  RoeBear   Apr-05-04 05:00 PM   #5 
     - I'll clarify  noahmijo   Apr-05-04 05:09 PM   #13 
        - Ah. But...  DoNotRefill   Apr-05-04 05:16 PM   #16 
        - Not such a farfetched fear  slackmaster   Apr-05-04 05:21 PM   #19 
        - True  noahmijo   Apr-05-04 05:28 PM   #22 
           - Let's say...  RoeBear   Apr-05-04 05:33 PM   #26 
           - There are lots of kinds of lethal violence that wouldn't work w/o firearms  library_max   Apr-05-04 05:40 PM   #28 
              - Course I didn't say get rid of all firearms...  RoeBear   Apr-05-04 06:12 PM   #30 
              - I'm definitely not one of those people  noahmijo   Apr-05-04 06:31 PM   #32 
              - I'm sorry - I thought you said  library_max   Apr-05-04 07:07 PM   #34 
                 - Fair enough...  RoeBear   Apr-05-04 08:09 PM   #36 
              - well...  DoNotRefill   Apr-06-04 02:54 AM   #45 
                 - And here we have the fundamental problem clarified.  library_max   Apr-06-04 01:57 PM   #74 
                 - Let's ignore the facts....  DoNotRefill   Apr-06-04 03:21 PM   #77 
                 - So bombs are more effective than firearms.  library_max   Apr-06-04 05:49 PM   #84 
                    - Because most criminals don't need that much effectiveness  Columbia   Apr-06-04 07:20 PM   #89 
                       - You know why bomb homicides outnumber gun homicides in Israel?  library_max   Apr-07-04 09:36 AM   #98 
                          - You're kidding right?  Columbia   Apr-07-04 01:36 PM   #110 
                 - Since we're playing "What if"  RoeBear   Apr-06-04 07:16 PM   #88 
                    - Archie Bunker, on All in the Family  library_max   Apr-07-04 09:27 AM   #96 
                       - Come back when you've done...  RoeBear   Apr-07-04 01:31 PM   #109 
                       - NRA studies?  library_max   Apr-07-04 04:00 PM   #127 
                       - Amazing  Columbia   Apr-07-04 01:37 PM   #111 
                          - I don't believe thats what they meant.  TX-RAT   Apr-07-04 01:53 PM   #113 
                          - If they are about to kill me  Columbia   Apr-07-04 01:56 PM   #115 
                          - I don't think anyone else believes that's what they meant  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 01:58 PM   #116 
                             - Common sense can't be taught Mr.B  TX-RAT   Apr-07-04 02:39 PM   #117 
                                - And yet we see those words  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 02:48 PM   #120 
                          - Yeah, it is amazing....  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 01:56 PM   #114 
                          - such funny questions  iverglas   Apr-07-04 02:46 PM   #118 
                          - Because they're trained combatants.  library_max   Apr-07-04 04:02 PM   #128 
                             - Yes  Columbia   Apr-07-04 04:25 PM   #132 
                                - Do you carry a peace officer certification?  TX-RAT   Apr-07-04 04:31 PM   #134 
                                   - Military  Columbia   Apr-07-04 04:33 PM   #135 
                                      - A little more info please  TX-RAT   Apr-07-04 04:41 PM   #136 
                                      - Although not specifically LE related MOS  Columbia   Apr-07-04 05:58 PM   #151 
                                         - "Utilized this training in real-life scenarios on a daily basis."  library_max   Apr-08-04 10:40 AM   #153 
                                         - You beat me to it  TX-RAT   Apr-08-04 10:44 AM   #154 
                                         - Utilized in Iraq  Columbia   Apr-08-04 12:07 PM   #155 
                                         - Okay, let's accept that at face value.  library_max   Apr-08-04 03:09 PM   #156 
                                         - Re-read post 135  Columbia   Apr-08-04 03:22 PM   #158 
                                         - "Equal rights for all, not just the privileged."  iverglas   Apr-08-04 04:30 PM   #171 
                                         - dupe  Jack_DeLeon   Aug-01-04 03:33 PM   #187 
                                         - IMO  Jack_DeLeon   Aug-01-04 03:35 PM   #188 
                                         - Thank God for all this training law enforcement gets.  FeebMaster   Apr-08-04 03:36 PM   #160 
                                      - Never said they needed to be  TX-RAT   Apr-08-04 03:41 PM   #161 
                                         - And then trips to a range once a year  Columbia   Apr-08-04 03:48 PM   #162 
                                            - Getting yourself killed by trying to outdraw a mugger whose gun is drawn  library_max   Apr-08-04 03:58 PM   #163 
                                            - Different situations require different decisions  Columbia   Apr-08-04 04:11 PM   #166 
                                            - But again,  library_max   Apr-08-04 04:20 PM   #168 
                                            - In the real world  Columbia   Apr-08-04 04:56 PM   #173 
                                            - That "statistic" is a flat-out lie.  library_max   Apr-08-04 05:24 PM   #174 
                                            - Teaching a person how to use firearms is easy.  TX-RAT   Apr-08-04 04:01 PM   #164 
                                            - Tis  Columbia   Apr-08-04 04:13 PM   #167 
                                            - Excuse me?  TX-RAT   Apr-08-04 04:25 PM   #170 
                                            - All it takes is a few seconds  Columbia   Apr-08-04 04:55 PM   #172 
                 - well  thomas82   Aug-01-04 03:39 PM   #189 
           - some stats:  DoNotRefill   Apr-06-04 02:48 AM   #44 
        - OK  MrSandman   Apr-05-04 08:45 PM   #38 
        - You'll be glad to know that  FeebMaster   Apr-06-04 02:54 PM   #76 
        - assualt weapons by definition are semi-auto  fourays2   Aug-01-04 11:09 AM   #186 
  - Yes!  BareKnuckledLiberal   Apr-05-04 04:58 PM   #2 
  - Another Metric System Enthusiast!  slackmaster   Apr-05-04 05:01 PM   #7 
     - Kaj mi, ankauxe!  BareKnuckledLiberal   Apr-05-04 05:02 PM   #9 
  - Jeb Bush and his banana republic...  MrBenchley   Apr-05-04 05:00 PM   #4 
  - They keep lists of car owners.  library_max   Apr-05-04 05:00 PM   #6 
  - Not exactly quite  slackmaster   Apr-05-04 05:02 PM   #8 
  - You don't really grasp the nature of databases  library_max   Apr-05-04 05:26 PM   #21 
     - I am a database administrator  slackmaster   Apr-05-04 05:35 PM   #27 
  - they keep lists of voters, too....  DoNotRefill   Apr-05-04 05:18 PM   #17 
  - Car registration was originally just to keep track of cars  slackmaster   Apr-05-04 05:24 PM   #20 
  - Wow I never even thought of that...  Jack_DeLeon   Aug-01-04 11:50 PM   #191 
  - You are correct.  Bowline   Aug-02-04 08:04 AM   #194 
  - Gee, refill...  MrBenchley   Apr-05-04 05:29 PM   #23 
  - Excuse me.  library_max   Apr-05-04 05:30 PM   #24 
     - Not necessarily...  DoNotRefill   Apr-06-04 02:59 AM   #46 
        - How's that going to work?  library_max   Apr-06-04 10:31 AM   #68 
           - Simple...  DoNotRefill   Apr-06-04 03:23 PM   #78 
              - Too cheap and easy. (nt)  FeebMaster   Apr-06-04 03:33 PM   #79 
              - And absolutely no room for corruption  lunabush   Apr-07-04 10:16 AM   #100 
                 - Yeah, but we have those problems now. (nt)  FeebMaster   Apr-07-04 10:40 AM   #101 
                    - ok  lunabush   Apr-07-04 11:02 AM   #102 
                       - I don't want to argue  FeebMaster   Apr-07-04 11:10 AM   #103 
                       - Well, goddammit, I DO want to argue  lunabush   Apr-07-04 11:17 AM   #104 
                          - Maybe feeb could put up a flag or something  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 11:19 AM   #105 
                             - Right.  FeebMaster   Apr-07-04 04:28 PM   #133 
                                - I will say the word "Jackney Sneeb"  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 04:43 PM   #137 
                                   - Funny you should mention Jackney Sneeb.  FeebMaster   Apr-07-04 04:48 PM   #138 
                                      - Even funnier that you're still trying to fob him off  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 04:55 PM   #140 
                                         - Hey, I'm not the one who agrees with him  FeebMaster   Apr-07-04 05:00 PM   #142 
                                            - You're the one who loved his quiz enough  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 05:07 PM   #144 
                                            - Yes I did enjoy the quiz.  FeebMaster   Apr-07-04 05:11 PM   #147 
                                            - Gee, feeb...  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 05:28 PM   #149 
                                            - Gee, bench...  FeebMaster   Apr-07-04 05:40 PM   #150 
                       - but it's a familiar mindset  iverglas   Apr-07-04 11:29 AM   #106 
              - oh dear  iverglas   Apr-06-04 04:23 PM   #83 
              - A simple comparative check against what?  library_max   Apr-06-04 05:52 PM   #85 
                 - nope...  DoNotRefill   Apr-06-04 09:25 PM   #90 
                    - Ah, so now we have a list.  library_max   Apr-07-04 09:34 AM   #97 
  - So do you support Ashcroft's plan to record every transaction involving...  Township75   Apr-05-04 08:51 PM   #39 
  - Yes  TX-RAT   Apr-05-04 05:05 PM   #10 
  - the govt should be *required* to keep lists of firearms owners  iverglas   Apr-05-04 05:05 PM   #11 
  - Yes, as soon as they keep track of who voted for who.  DoNotRefill   Apr-05-04 05:13 PM   #15 
  - Only if they can figure out how to make criminals register their guns..  toiletbush   Apr-05-04 05:18 PM   #18 
  - A good start there would be to close the gun show loophole  library_max   Apr-05-04 05:32 PM   #25 
     - heh heh  iverglas   Apr-05-04 05:51 PM   #29 
     - Maybe it's because...  RoeBear   Apr-05-04 08:12 PM   #37 
        - Hmmm...  Me Me Meme   Apr-05-04 10:39 PM   #41 
        - Gee, roe...  MrBenchley   Apr-06-04 08:36 AM   #53 
           - I wouldn't exactly say "a lot"  Superfly   Apr-06-04 08:38 AM   #54 
           - I've given up on even parsing this stuff  iverglas   Apr-06-04 08:48 AM   #57 
              - Original statement was edited by Bench  Superfly   Apr-06-04 08:50 AM   #58 
                 - And the RKBA crowd STILL posts tired right wing crap  MrBenchley   Apr-06-04 02:22 PM   #75 
           - Please don't infer that I'm a right winger...  RoeBear   Apr-06-04 01:27 PM   #73 
              - Gee, roe...  MrBenchley   Apr-06-04 03:39 PM   #80 
                 - You're boring me...  RoeBear   Apr-06-04 03:56 PM   #81 
                    - Gee, roe, you long ago bored the shit out of me  MrBenchley   Apr-06-04 04:06 PM   #82 
     - Just like how drug and alcohol prohibion worked so well too  Columbia   Apr-05-04 06:14 PM   #31 
        - I forget  iverglas   Apr-05-04 06:37 PM   #33 
           - They spring  Me Me Meme   Apr-05-04 10:43 PM   #42 
  - No. No! A Thousand times NO!!!!  Me Me Meme   Apr-05-04 07:52 PM   #35 
  - No, because that might divert funds from a database that lists what books.  Township75   Apr-05-04 08:55 PM   #40 
  - Um  Wingnut357   Apr-05-04 11:31 PM   #43 
  - They can get the gun, that's what matters.  library_max   Apr-06-04 10:35 AM   #69 
     - Missing the point  Wingnut357   Apr-06-04 06:56 PM   #86 
        - Alas, that happens not to be true.  library_max   Apr-07-04 01:31 PM   #108 
           - Not quite right  slackmaster   Apr-07-04 02:46 PM   #119 
              - and now for the real answer  iverglas   Apr-07-04 02:52 PM   #121 
              - You seem to be unclear on a couple of concepts  slackmaster   Apr-07-04 03:05 PM   #123 
                 - accuracy shmaccuracy  iverglas   Apr-07-04 03:36 PM   #125 
                 - It all boils down to one issue for me  slackmaster   Apr-07-04 03:38 PM   #126 
                    - as it does for me  iverglas   Apr-07-04 04:03 PM   #129 
                       - I NEVER SAID "gun show sales are NOT exempt"  slackmaster   Apr-08-04 10:28 AM   #152 
                          - I'll buy that you're fighting a propaganda war.  library_max   Apr-08-04 03:18 PM   #157 
                             - Please answer one question with a possible followup  slackmaster   Apr-08-04 03:32 PM   #159 
                                - I was referring to private gun sales at gun shows.  library_max   Apr-08-04 04:04 PM   #165 
                                   - Dealing in guns without an FFL is a federal crime  slackmaster   Apr-09-04 09:03 AM   #175 
                                      - Again, hard to believe that the inaccuracy isn't deliberate here.  library_max   Apr-09-04 09:48 AM   #176 
                                         - You think cops are incapable of identifying someone engaged in business?  slackmaster   Apr-09-04 11:26 AM   #177 
                                            - Anyone who can't see that there is no enforceable difference  library_max   Apr-09-04 11:55 AM   #178 
                                            - You have a lot of general ideas about this subject but no specifics  slackmaster   Apr-09-04 12:06 PM   #179 
                                            - Typical.  library_max   Apr-09-04 12:15 PM   #180 
                                            - Typical.  slackmaster   Apr-09-04 12:22 PM   #181 
                                            - You know, Robert Benchley, a writer I admire,  MrBenchley   Apr-09-04 12:23 PM   #182 
                                            - Robert Benchley was a very good writer  slackmaster   Apr-10-04 04:01 PM   #184 
                                            - It is indeed  iverglas   Apr-09-04 03:26 PM   #183 
                 - The real world is just a closed book to some people.  library_max   Apr-07-04 04:11 PM   #130 
                    - Gun show problem  TX-RAT   Apr-07-04 04:19 PM   #131 
                       - Gun shows really took after 1986  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 04:54 PM   #139 
                          - Ahh McClure-Volkmer,  FeebMaster   Apr-07-04 04:57 PM   #141 
                          - Jackney Sneeb tell you that, feeb?  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 05:09 PM   #146 
                             - Why would I need Jackney Sneeb to tell me  FeebMaster   Apr-07-04 05:14 PM   #148 
                          - Thanks for the info.  TX-RAT   Apr-07-04 05:01 PM   #143 
                             - Any time  MrBenchley   Apr-07-04 05:08 PM   #145 
              - oh, *I* see  iverglas   Apr-08-04 04:23 PM   #169 
  - Funny that the GOP hasn't proposed  MrBenchley   Apr-06-04 06:40 AM   #47 
     - Seeing how the anti-gun lobby groups are led by a Reagan lover...  Township75   Apr-06-04 08:04 AM   #48 
        - Wow, guess the RKBA cause has resorted to outright fantasy  MrBenchley   Apr-06-04 08:12 AM   #49 
  - Sure...like the one in Canada?  Superfly   Apr-06-04 08:17 AM   #50 
  - Let's see...  MrBenchley   Apr-06-04 08:22 AM   #51 
     - You're very welcome...  Superfly   Apr-06-04 08:25 AM   #52 
        - Sez you, fly...  MrBenchley   Apr-06-04 08:40 AM   #55 
           - Let's not get testy, now....  Superfly   Apr-06-04 08:43 AM   #56 
              - then parse this one for me  iverglas   Apr-06-04 09:25 AM   #59 
              - And as I've said twice, now...  Superfly   Apr-06-04 09:30 AM   #61 
                 - it's hopeless  iverglas   Apr-06-04 10:01 AM   #63 
                    - OK...  Superfly   Apr-06-04 10:08 AM   #64 
                       - dandy  iverglas   Apr-06-04 10:24 AM   #66 
                       - Depends:  Superfly   Apr-06-04 10:26 AM   #67 
                          - oh well  iverglas   Apr-06-04 10:41 AM   #70 
                             - For cripes sake...  Superfly   Apr-06-04 10:48 AM   #71 
                                - and my question is this  iverglas   Apr-06-04 11:19 AM   #72 
                       - not necessarily bad  Me Me Meme   Apr-06-04 10:32 PM   #92 
              - Why not?  MrBenchley   Apr-06-04 09:28 AM   #60 
                 - Analogy? Guffaw....  Superfly   Apr-06-04 09:32 AM   #62 
                    - It was not a strawman and was right on the money  MrBenchley   Apr-06-04 10:18 AM   #65 
  - Yes,  AmyJ   Apr-06-04 07:07 PM   #87 
  - Maybe the government shouldn't be keeping  FeebMaster   Apr-06-04 09:57 PM   #91 
  - Absolutely YES!  Pert_UK   Apr-07-04 05:05 AM   #93 
  - I doesn't  Me Me Meme   Apr-07-04 05:50 AM   #94 
     - I see that the Debating Society President is online....  Pert_UK   Apr-07-04 06:34 AM   #95 
        - Did you choose your sig line just for this debate?  library_max   Apr-07-04 09:39 AM   #99 
        - I set it up a year ago, referring to the Chimp in Chief....  Pert_UK   Apr-07-04 12:36 PM   #107 
        - Very cute  Me Me Meme   Apr-07-04 01:41 PM   #112 
           - See, now THAT'S a sensible reply.....  Pert_UK   Apr-07-04 02:58 PM   #122 
              - Cool  Me Me Meme   Apr-07-04 03:22 PM   #124 
  - I guess it depends on whether or not you trust the government,  Undemcided   Aug-01-04 10:18 AM   #185 
  - There is only one possible use for a list of gun owners...  Bowline   Aug-01-04 03:54 PM   #190 
     - Just like they made that list of car owners and confiscated autos...OOOPS!  MrBenchley   Aug-02-04 07:52 AM   #192 
        - The government keeps a list of car owners for tax purposes.  Bowline   Aug-02-04 08:02 AM   #193 
 

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