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120. What does that non-answer have to do with assault weapons? N/T
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  -1,534,414 gun background checks done in November. On target for 16 million in 2011!! Logical  Dec-07-11 06:07 PM   #0 
  - Guns ? " Good Guys " ? Assault weapons are not Guns for sport . Agreed?  orpupilofnature57   Dec-07-11 06:13 PM   #1 
  - I disagree...  IamK   Dec-07-11 06:16 PM   #3 
  - I suppose.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-07-11 06:47 PM   #9 
     - REALLY?  Callisto32   Dec-08-11 06:46 AM   #35 
        - No  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 05:25 AM   #82 
           - So you don't suppose.  Callisto32   Dec-09-11 02:34 PM   #93 
              - Got me  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 04:15 PM   #99 
  - There's no substantial difference between an "assault weapon" and a "non-assault-weapon." nt  TheWraith   Dec-07-11 06:20 PM   #4 
  - Besides intent ,capability. nt  orpupilofnature57   Dec-07-11 06:45 PM   #7 
     - Oh, cut the crap.  Dr_Scholl   Dec-07-11 07:02 PM   #11 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-07-11 07:06 PM   #13 
     - Abuse, rejection of commonly used technical terms, and no answer to the question asked.  friendly_iconoclast   Dec-07-11 08:15 PM   #23 
        - Thanks , the tea was great ,I still hate 2nd Amendment Paranoia  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 05:15 AM   #79 
     - My AR's and mini do the same thing. the safety on the AR is much better IMHO.  ileus   Dec-07-11 08:11 PM   #20 
     - The problem is not with the definition "assault weapon"  Remmah2   Dec-08-11 08:02 AM   #39 
     - I agree ,my problem is Gun Rights that are opposed to Peoples Rights  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 05:28 AM   #83 
        - How do you figure?  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-09-11 08:30 AM   #86 
           - In 1791 it was a necessity ,now it's infringement on well-being.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-10-11 06:05 AM   #110 
     - sorry for the rant.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 05:11 AM   #78 
        - Difference between apathy and ignorance is easy to explain...  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-09-11 08:32 AM   #87 
           - Not legally available, or nonexistent in the US ?  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 04:15 PM   #98 
              - Full auto AK's are available, price does not include the $200 tax  oneshooter   Dec-09-11 08:11 PM   #103 
                 - Thanks  orpupilofnature57   Dec-10-11 05:43 AM   #109 
     - As far as intent, the musket was an "assault weapon"...  Marengo   Dec-07-11 07:58 PM   #19 
     - Which must of seemed light years ahead of the catapult ,Whats your point ?  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 05:30 AM   #84 
     - Insubstantial terms, defined in your own head, which do not make a weapon "super extra lethal." nt  TheWraith   Dec-07-11 09:01 PM   #28 
     - It's capability ,and who's shooting does.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 05:31 AM   #85 
     - Intent....  Callisto32   Dec-08-11 06:47 AM   #36 
     - Intent is in the mind of the user  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-08-11 08:25 AM   #45 
     - I paint them with the same brush ,Toys that kill.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 05:25 AM   #81 
        - Well that's your problem isn't it? n/t  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-09-11 08:33 AM   #88 
     - Capability, there really isn't (most are somewhat less powerful than...  SteveM   Dec-08-11 04:28 PM   #67 
        - We can't police peoples minds ,just their modes of murder.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 05:23 AM   #80 
           - The mode matters not a whit to the victim. Dead is dead.  friendly_iconoclast   Dec-09-11 11:43 AM   #89 
           - And what "modes" do you propose for policing?...  SteveM   Dec-09-11 03:37 PM   #95 
              - Shrub helped you people out there.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 04:17 PM   #100 
                 - "you people" is who, now?  SteveM   Dec-09-11 06:01 PM   #101 
                 - You people that split hairs on WMD.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-09-11 07:14 PM   #102 
                    - By your metric, Iraq was and is full of "WMD"- not by mine, of course.  friendly_iconoclast   Dec-09-11 09:50 PM   #104 
                       - Cling to that metric lie ,how many times a day is an ignition turned?  orpupilofnature57   Dec-10-11 05:41 AM   #108 
                          - What bans did Bush lift? N/T  GreenStormCloud   Dec-10-11 06:38 AM   #113 
                 - How did he do that? N/T  GreenStormCloud   Dec-10-11 06:37 AM   #112 
                    - By promoting the wolf at the edge of the forest ,whilst hiding the beast in the middle  orpupilofnature57   Dec-10-11 08:12 AM   #118 
                       - What does that non-answer have to do with assault weapons? N/T  GreenStormCloud   Dec-10-11 09:55 AM   #120 
  - Please point out the "sport" provision in the Second Amendment.  PavePusher   Dec-07-11 06:47 PM   #8 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-07-11 07:03 PM   #12 
  - The number of Bullets that can be fired in a 3 second span ,now before you gild that lily  orpupilofnature57   Dec-10-11 06:09 AM   #111 
     - Every semi auto has about the same rate of fire in 3 seconds.  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-12-11 08:52 AM   #121 
  - By "assault weapons" are you referring to AR-15 platforms?  oneshooter   Dec-08-11 08:20 AM   #43 
  - Nope, not agreed.  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-08-11 08:24 AM   #44 
  - No I wouldn't.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-10-11 08:16 AM   #119 
  - Still waiting for a coherent answer. n/t  PavePusher   Dec-08-11 10:04 AM   #49 
  - Not agreed...  SteveM   Dec-08-11 04:25 PM   #65 
  - Still waiting.....  PavePusher   Dec-08-11 10:46 PM   #77 
  - shoot'em if you got'em...... n/t  IamK   Dec-07-11 06:14 PM   #2 
  - RIP  orpupilofnature57   Dec-07-11 07:16 PM   #15 
  - I'm not sure Democrats are fighting it all that much  tularetom   Dec-07-11 06:31 PM   #5 
  - I take issue with your last sentence.  WHEN CRABS ROAR   Dec-07-11 06:41 PM   #6 
  - "Nobody is coming for your guns."  PavePusher   Dec-07-11 06:48 PM   #10 
     - National Redneck Association has always been paranoid. ,lack of socialization.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-07-11 07:08 PM   #14 
     - What other segment of the 99 percent do you detest?  gejohnston   Dec-07-11 07:26 PM   #16 
     - Flea=baggers too. Who are you?you  orpupilofnature57   Dec-08-11 05:09 AM   #32 
     - O.K., you'll have to unpack that a bit more. Some of us have had a long day. n/t  PavePusher   Dec-07-11 09:25 PM   #30 
     - Not too tired to push paranoia of stalinist plots or as Always, abolishing the 2nd.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-08-11 05:14 AM   #33 
     - I think "National Reprobate's Association" is more appropriate  DrDan   Dec-08-11 08:17 AM   #42 
     - Thank you,, I'm a space case.  orpupilofnature57   Dec-10-11 08:07 AM   #116 
     - Well, I thought you might want to discuss the question you raised. Sorry.nt  SteveM   Dec-08-11 04:32 PM   #68 
     - All the evidence? But not much common sense to back that up.  WHEN CRABS ROAR   Dec-07-11 11:27 PM   #31 
  - I own guns I have a concealed carry permit I am just  doc03   Dec-07-11 07:44 PM   #17 
  - I am also against the NRA! They are a right wing group of nuts!  Logical   Dec-07-11 07:55 PM   #18 
  - I don't think a week passes that one of my friends that  doc03   Dec-07-11 08:11 PM   #21 
     - Paranoia  TheCowsCameHome   Dec-07-11 08:15 PM   #22 
     - Great points, and now they are saying Obama is just waiting for 2016 to ban all guns....  Logical   Dec-07-11 08:17 PM   #24 
     - They use the same techniques as the various Brady orgs. - but they're better at it.  friendly_iconoclast   Dec-07-11 08:32 PM   #25 
     - That's the latest Wayne LaPierre vast left wing conspiracy  doc03   Dec-07-11 08:40 PM   #26 
        - So true, no message is delivered without asking for money!  Logical   Dec-07-11 08:54 PM   #27 
        - I am a member of the NRA but I don't get those e-mails. Why not? N/T  GreenStormCloud   Dec-10-11 06:43 AM   #114 
     - 1865 SYNDROME!!!!!!! And thats it a yen for antebellum .  orpupilofnature57   Dec-10-11 08:10 AM   #117 
  - self delete  gejohnston   Dec-07-11 09:01 PM   #29 
  - can you please provide a link that demonstrates that the reduction in crime is due to more guns  DrDan   Dec-08-11 05:42 AM   #34 
  - Settin up that old strawman again eh?  Callisto32   Dec-08-11 06:53 AM   #37 
     - Fundamental Christianity has been on the rise - how do you know that is not  DrDan   Dec-08-11 07:44 AM   #38 
        - You are asking for proof to a claim THAT NO-ONE MADE.  PavePusher   Dec-08-11 08:08 AM   #40 
        - it was certainly implied, now wasn't it  DrDan   Dec-08-11 08:09 AM   #41 
           - No it was not implied  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-08-11 08:27 AM   #46 
           - of couse it was implied  DrDan   Dec-08-11 09:32 AM   #47 
              - People who actually look at the data and think. n/t  PavePusher   Dec-08-11 10:03 AM   #48 
                 - and what conclusion would they derive?  DrDan   Dec-08-11 10:12 AM   #50 
                    - The conclusion which has been pointed out time and time again....  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-08-11 10:27 AM   #51 
                       - could you please post a link supporting that  DrDan   Dec-08-11 10:28 AM   #52 
                          - Uh - look upthread  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-08-11 10:33 AM   #53 
                             - the drop in crime is obviously based on multiple factors  DrDan   Dec-08-11 11:27 AM   #56 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-08-11 01:31 PM   #61 
                                   - ok - so crime is going down - gun sales are going up  DrDan   Dec-08-11 03:09 PM   #62 
                                      - "Show that guns are not producing more crime..." That's not what you asked originally  friendly_iconoclast   Dec-08-11 03:27 PM   #63 
                                      - obviously the relationship between crime and gun sales, that  DrDan   Dec-08-11 03:58 PM   #64 
                                      - If a decrease has occured  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-08-11 04:26 PM   #66 
                                      - that is akin to saying  DrDan   Dec-08-11 04:41 PM   #71 
                                         - Not QUITE.  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-09-11 04:11 PM   #97 
                                            - ok - so your claim is that  DrDan   Dec-10-11 04:36 AM   #106 
                                            - let me restate the calorie example like this . . .  DrDan   Dec-10-11 05:39 AM   #107 
                                      - now, you've implied dismissal of your own Straw Man! jeeez. nt  SteveM   Dec-08-11 04:36 PM   #70 
           - Not implied at all, just disproving the "More guns=More crimes" meme. nt  SteveM   Dec-08-11 04:34 PM   #69 
           - "disproving"???????????????  DrDan   Dec-08-11 04:43 PM   #72 
              - Would you prefer "the more guns=more crime" contention be manifestly unproven?  SteveM   Dec-09-11 03:39 PM   #96 
           - No, THIS IS WHAT WAS IMPLIED:  Callisto32   Dec-09-11 11:44 AM   #91 
        - Thanks for....proving my point....while simultaneously missing it entirely.  Callisto32   Dec-09-11 11:43 AM   #90 
           - enjoy your delusion  DrDan   Dec-09-11 02:29 PM   #92 
              - I said we can't know the cause with certainty...  Callisto32   Dec-09-11 03:13 PM   #94 
                 - let me make sure I understand your point (seriously)  DrDan   Dec-10-11 04:32 AM   #105 
  - 16 million more guns! You'd think  montanto   Dec-08-11 11:10 AM   #54 
  - Weird isn't it? It is almost like more guns do not mean more crime. Hmmmm  Logical   Dec-08-11 11:21 AM   #55 
  - any studies to substantiate that?  DrDan   Dec-08-11 11:42 AM   #57 
  - The proof that guns cause more crime is your deal!  Logical   Dec-08-11 11:52 AM   #58 
     - you seem to be implying they do not raise the rate - or am I misreading your post  DrDan   Dec-08-11 12:40 PM   #60 
        - My claim is more guns do not equal more crime. Not more guns equals less crime.  Logical   Dec-08-11 04:50 PM   #73 
        - They don't. You didn't.  montanto   Dec-08-11 05:17 PM   #76 
  - Certainly nothing like you'd expect fom listening to the anti-  montanto   Dec-08-11 05:02 PM   #74 
  - The 16 million number does not necessarily  burf   Dec-08-11 12:24 PM   #59 
     - Yeah, I get that.  montanto   Dec-08-11 05:16 PM   #75 
  - In some states a CCW can be shown and no background check is needed.  GreenStormCloud   Dec-10-11 06:48 AM   #115 
 

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